Ray Lewis: We only know who Tom Brady is because of the tuck rule

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Ray Lewis: We only know who Tom Brady is because of the tuck rule
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 14, 2015

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Ray Lewis believes the tuck rule is the only reason any of us knows who Tom Brady is.

Lewis told Stephen A. Smith on ESPN Radio that the Patriots getting the benefit of the infamous rule when Brady appeared to fumble in his first playoff start against the Raiders in January of 2002 is the reason he has a career today.

“When we — the first time we created something called a tuck rule, it’s the only reason we know — I’m just being honest — the only reason we know who Tom Brady is, because of a tuck rule,” Lewis said, via CBS Boston. “There’s no such thing as a tuck rule! If the ball is in your hand, and I knock it out your hand, whether it’s going backwards, forwards, lateral, sideways, however it’s coming out, that’s a freaking fumble! But guess what we created? We created a freaking tuck rule!”

Lewis noted that if the Patriots had lost that game to the Raiders, they wouldn’t have made it to the AFC Championship Game that year.

“They don’t go to that championship game — they don’t go to that championship game if that tuck rule, if that ball is not called a tuck! That’s a fumble!” Lewis said. “Charles Woodson made that man clearly fumble the ball and they named it the tuck rule, something that we’ve never heard in today’s game. So now you’ve got to ask yourself: When did the legacy really start?”

Well, yes, you could argue that Brady’s legacy really started with that tuck rule game. But even if you think that should have been a fumble, and that the Patriots should have been eliminated before Brady’s first Super Bowl, is that really the only reason we’ve heard of Tom Brady?

The tuck rule didn’t help the Patriots win the other two Super Bowls of Brady’s tenure as their starting quarterback. The tuck rule didn’t win Brady two regular-season MVP awards. The tuck rule didn’t make Brady lead the league in passing touchdowns three times or lead the league in passer rating and passing yards two other times. The tuck rule didn’t get Brady to nine Pro Bowls. Wouldn’t we have heard of Brady because of all those achievements, even if he hadn’t benefited from the tuck rule?

So it’s true that Brady’s reputation was built early in his career largely on the two postseason games the Patriots won after they beat the Raiders thanks to the tuck rule. But it’s ridiculous to suggest that the tuck rule is the only (or even the main) reason we know who Brady is. The tuck rule was 13 years ago. Brady has done pretty well for himself since then.
 

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It's funny, but Brady has proved to be great, post-tuck. It's like saying we only know Ray Lewis because of the stab rule.
 
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Ray Lewis talking to Steven A. Smith... oh yeah, now I remember why I don't listen to ESPN.

Good, old Ray assumes Brady would have flamed out if the call sisn't go their way.

Gotta love Ray.
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It's funny, but Brady has proved to be great, post-tuck. It's like saying we only know ray Lewis because of the stab rule.

Good point. But that is how it all began for both Brady and Belichick. Had that play been ruled as a fumble, the Raiders might have eliminated the Patriots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuck_Rule_Game

My view is that talent eventually wins out and that Brady still would have gone on to accomplish great things in his career. I only posted the article because I thought it was comical not that Lewis's comments had any relevance.
 

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Think on this for a moment ... most NFL QBs experience some failure, but Brady's failures were washed away (tuck rule). Without the tuck rule, Brady is just like every other young QB, doubting himself because he lost the game on a fumble. Would those Patriots still go on a 7-game playoff winning streak? Or would that doubt chase Brady throughout his career?

The Brady of the tuck rule never knew any failure. Not in the playoffs.
 

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Not only was the team cheating, but the league cheated for them. Gotta have a nice story line like having the patriots "win" the superbowl after 9/11 so everyone feels good about themselves. It's like WWE for adults. Why do we even watch this crap anymore?
 

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Had that play been ruled as a fumble, the Raiders might have eliminated the Patriots.

what do you mean might have? the game was over when he fumbled. all the raiders players celebrated the victory then got told to go back out on the field. they couldn't psyche themselves up again and the patriots drove down the field for the fg to tie the game and send it to overtime.

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That Stephen A-hole Smith has a real quality program. Every single time I hear that idiot speak I want to tell him to shut the fuck up.

On the other hand, I enjoy hearing anyone trashing tom terrific.
 

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Good point. But that is how it all began for both Brady and Belichick. Had that play been ruled as a fumble, the Raiders might have eliminated the Patriots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuck_Rule_Game

My view is that talent eventually wins out and that Brady still would have gone on to accomplish great things in his career. I only posted the article because I thought it was comical not that Lewis's comments had any relevance.
I understand, I like any shot taken at that 2001 Patsy team. I know you were not necessarily subscribing to that theory.
 

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I, like Blue and Gold, like any shot, no matter how low, aimed at the Cheats, Bill Belicheat, and his minion Tom Brady. I can't help but think they might have flamed out early had it not been for the NFL helping them to cheat their way to that first SB win at the expense of first the Raiders and then the Rams.

I can only hope that their cheating ways don't help them win out this year.
 

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Ray Lewis: We only know who Tom Brady is because of the tuck rule
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 14, 2015

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Ray Lewis believes the tuck rule is the only reason any of us knows who Tom Brady is.

Lewis told Stephen A. Smith on ESPN Radio that the Patriots getting the benefit of the infamous rule when Brady appeared to fumble in his first playoff start against the Raiders in January of 2002 is the reason he has a career today.

“When we — the first time we created something called a tuck rule, it’s the only reason we know — I’m just being honest — the only reason we know who Tom Brady is, because of a tuck rule,” Lewis said, via CBS Boston. “There’s no such thing as a tuck rule! If the ball is in your hand, and I knock it out your hand, whether it’s going backwards, forwards, lateral, sideways, however it’s coming out, that’s a freaking fumble! But guess what we created? We created a freaking tuck rule!”

Lewis noted that if the Patriots had lost that game to the Raiders, they wouldn’t have made it to the AFC Championship Game that year.

“They don’t go to that championship game — they don’t go to that championship game if that tuck rule, if that ball is not called a tuck! That’s a fumble!” Lewis said. “Charles Woodson made that man clearly fumble the ball and they named it the tuck rule, something that we’ve never heard in today’s game. So now you’ve got to ask yourself: When did the legacy really start?”

Well, yes, you could argue that Brady’s legacy really started with that tuck rule game. But even if you think that should have been a fumble, and that the Patriots should have been eliminated before Brady’s first Super Bowl, is that really the only reason we’ve heard of Tom Brady?

The tuck rule didn’t help the Patriots win the other two Super Bowls of Brady’s tenure as their starting quarterback. The tuck rule didn’t win Brady two regular-season MVP awards. The tuck rule didn’t make Brady lead the league in passing touchdowns three times or lead the league in passer rating and passing yards two other times. The tuck rule didn’t get Brady to nine Pro Bowls. Wouldn’t we have heard of Brady because of all those achievements, even if he hadn’t benefited from the tuck rule?

So it’s true that Brady’s reputation was built early in his career largely on the two postseason games the Patriots won after they beat the Raiders thanks to the tuck rule. But it’s ridiculous to suggest that the tuck rule is the only (or even the main) reason we know who Brady is. The tuck rule was 13 years ago. Brady has done pretty well for himself since then.

Nope.
It's due to Spygate success.
 

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Lewis is a jerkoff and a liar. Deer antler anyone?

Brady is one of the best QB's in the last 30 plus years. Tuck Rule has nothing to do with it.
 

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Hmmmm...

I still wonder what would have been... Rams/Raiders for the 'Patriotic' Super Bowl
 

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Good point. But that is how it all began for both Brady and Belichick. Had that play been ruled as a fumble, the Raiders might have eliminated the Patriots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuck_Rule_Game

My view is that talent eventually wins out and that Brady still would have gone on to accomplish great things in his career. I only posted the article because I thought it was comical not that Lewis's comments had any relevance.

IMO, Ray was so far out in left field that the ball is still rolling in the parking lot...Think what you like (I despise the entire organization), but that call certainly didn't define Brady's career...If anything would have kept him from his accomplishments, it would be Drew Bledsoe...
 

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What always gets lost in this game was the clutch performance by Adam Vinatieri. He tied the game in a 46 yard FG into the snow driven wind with a inch or so of snow on the field. I remember not even being able to see the ball on TV because of the snow (or booze).

one of the more clutch FG I have ever seen.