Rams WR Mike Thomas Suspended 4 Games

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If he declared then they can take action from what I read somewhere.

Higbee entered a diversion program for an assault charge it almost guaranteed he will get some sort of suspension at some point even if its not this year.


Part of an article.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article75673517.htm
Tyreek Hill will not be subject to NFL discipline upon entering the league but could be considered a repeat offender under its conduct policy if he is involved in another incident of domestic violence.

NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said Wednesday that a player new to the league who has already been arrested or charged with with violent or threatening conduct would not be subject to initial punishment. Hill, a fifth-round draft pick by the Chiefs on Saturday, pleaded guilty in August 2015 to domestic abuse by strangulation of his pregnant girlfriend.

NFL players can receive a baseline six-game suspension without pay for a first offense of violent or threatening conduct, but McCarthy said that only applies when the first infraction occurs when the player is in the NFL. There is no NFL policy regarding players entering the league who have a domestic violence history, he said..........
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According to this article Higbee it does not appear he will get suspended.
 

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The rules are in place.
Obey the rules.
Don't obey them, and you get what you get.

I'm sure we all have our own ideas about how the league should operate, and what they should or shouldn't do to improve the game for the players and/or fans; but until the rules are changed, obey the MFing rules for the benefit of the team. It's not quantum physics.
Woah, good to see you man
 

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Part of an article.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article75673517.htm
Tyreek Hill will not be subject to NFL discipline upon entering the league but could be considered a repeat offender under its conduct policy if he is involved in another incident of domestic violence.

NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said Wednesday that a player new to the league who has already been arrested or charged with with violent or threatening conduct would not be subject to initial punishment. Hill, a fifth-round draft pick by the Chiefs on Saturday, pleaded guilty in August 2015 to domestic abuse by strangulation of his pregnant girlfriend.

NFL players can receive a baseline six-game suspension without pay for a first offense of violent or threatening conduct, but McCarthy said that only applies when the first infraction occurs when the player is in the NFL. There is no NFL policy regarding players entering the league who have a domestic violence history, he said..........
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According to this article Higbee it does not appear he will get suspended.
First off, what a dirt bag Tyreek Hill is, but its only apples to apples IMO if Hill had committed the crime when he had already given up his eligibilty
 

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the same reason the olympics will always make sure they're behind the curve with the lastest enhancement drugs. they'll always put up a patsy like ben johnson but they never want to rid the sports of drugs. imagine what the times would be like without drugs. lord knows what flojo was taking for her(it) to still hold the world record 30 years later.

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Then why do they test samples years later and take away medals years later? Google "stripped of olympic medal" and see how hard they go after athletes that cheat. They take that shit really, really seriously. And they should!!!


I'm sure we all have our own ideas about how the league should operate, and what they should or shouldn't do to improve the game for the players and/or fans; but until the rules are changed, obey the MFing rules for the benefit of the team. It's not quantum physics.

How are you doing. I hope all is well and I speak for this entire board when I say you're missed.

It's not quantum physics you are right. The rules should be obeyed, but the penalties are so light there isn't enough fear of getting caught.
 

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The rules are in place.
Obey the rules.
Don't obey them, and you get what you get.


I'm sure we all have our own ideas about how the league should operate, and what they should or shouldn't do to improve the game for the players and/or fans; but until the rules are changed, obey the MFing rules for the benefit of the team. It's not quantum physics.
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NFL, Union approve new PED policy

Appeals of positive tests under the PED policy, including HGH, will be heard by a third-party arbitrator whom league and union officials will choose jointly. The statement promises that appeals will be heard more expeditiously because of improved procedures under the policy.

A first violation of the PED policy will result in a suspension without pay for up to six games depending on violation:

• Positive tests for diuretics or masking agents will result in a two-game ban;

• Positive tests for a steroid, stimulant or HGH will result in a four-game ban;

• Evidence that an attempt was made to manipulate a test result will result in a six-game suspension.

Players will receive a 10-game suspension for a second violation of the policy, while a third positive test will result in a suspension of at least two years.

Positive tests for banned stimulants in the offseason will no longer result in suspensions, however. In these cases, players will be referred to the substance abuse program. Positive test for stimulants during the season will be considered a violation of the PED policy and result in a four-game ban.

While a neutral third party will hear appeals of PED violations, commissioner Roger Goodell will retain his authority under the personal conduct policy, the statement said. Appeals of punishment under the personal conduct policy will be heard by a member of the CBA Appeals Panel.

The league's new recreational drug policy will include additional steps, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

• A first offense will put the player into the league's drug program.

• A second offense is a two-game fine.

• A third offense is a four-game fine.

• A fourth offense is a four-game suspension.

• A fifth offense is a 10-game suspension.

• A sixth offense is a one-year suspension.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...cing-drug-policy-human-growth-hormone-testing

  • NFL's new drug policy

(MJ) Marijuana won't be punished like other drugs All players will be tested at least once per league year during training camp for substances of abuse, including marijuana. However, it'll take more violations to reach the advanced discipline stages for marijuana than for cocaine, amphetamines, opiates, opioids, phencyclidine or MDMA.

A first offense for any of those drugs enters a player into Stage One of the intervention program for up to 90 days. If a player tests positive again while in Stage One, he'll be subject to an immediate three-week fine and advanced to Stage Two.

In Stage Two, players will be subject to unannounced testing up to 10 times a month and marijuana is separated into its own discipline structure. Here's how the term sheet lays it out:

If player is in the program by testing positive for either marijuana (MJ) or other banned substances of abuse (O):

Next violation relating to MJ 2 game fine

Next violation relating to O 4 game fine

Player's last discipline was 2 game fine for MJ:

Next violation relating to MJ 4 game fine

Next violation relating to O 4 game fine

Player's last discipline was 4 game fine for MJ or O:

Next violation relating to MJ 4 game suspension

Next violation relating to O 4 game suspension, entry into Stage 3 for O

Player's last discipline was for 4 game suspension for MJ or O:

Next violation relating to MJ 10 game suspension, entry into Stage 3

Next violation relating to O Banishment, can reinstatement after 1 year

Player's last discipline was for 10 game suspension for MJ:

Next violation relating to MJ Banishment, can reinstatement after 1 year

The threshold for a positive marijuana test will now be 35 nanograms per milliliter – up from 15 ng/ml under the 2006 drug policy, but still lower than the standards used by Major League Baseball (50 ng/ml) and WADA (150 ng/ml).

Discipline for marijuana violations after the last game of the 2013 season will be adjusted under the new marijuana discipline schedule, except that suspensions will not convert to fines.

Players remain in Stage Two for a minimum of one year and in Stage Three for a minimum of two years. Under the old policy, a player in Stage Three remained there for the rest of his career.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/09/13/nfl-new-drug-policy-three-things/15571205/

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Guys who do PED's are cheating regardless of how many guys are doing them because they are against the rules. About half of the players in the league are cheating and I'd like to know how that helps the game. I'm sure the half who aren't doing them would like to know that too LOL.

Much, much, much more than that.

Notice all the guys with CTE that are blowing their chests open..........all from this steroid era.

CTE predates the PED era, though.
 

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Higbee entered a diversion program for an assault charge it almost guaranteed he will get some sort of suspension at some point even if its not this year.

I disagree when you are learning a new offense and with a young QB and young WRs those guys need as many reps as possible together. Developing timing and chemistry between WR and QB is critical and you can only do that with time and reps. Whats the point of giving Thomas heavy reps in camp when he could be at best the 5th WR behind Woods, Tavon, Kupp, and Reynolds when he gets back. Additionally, Tavon is supposed to adjust to this new deep threat role, while learning a new offense, playing with a QB he didn't get a ton of reps with last year with just a few weeks of camp?

On the bright side it seems like the WRs were rotated heavily in the offseason because outside of Woods its nowhere near set in stone who will play alot. Like I said before Thomas' suspension just opens up more reps for Reynolds to play and develop which doesn't hurt because he is the more talented player.

So then what's the big deal? If Thomas is #5 when he gets back like you say, who gives a shit if he gets a lot of reps?

And if they think higher of him, and expects him to be a top threat when he returns, they'll give him reps despite his suspension. So I don't really understand exactly, what you don't agree on.

I agree fully, with the rest of your points. About more reps to go around, and needing time with the QB in the new system.
 

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Super Bowl 36 was scripted and the "Patriots" and officials had their copies.

Nah. We got screwed and cheated, but the Rams weren't in on it. We still could have pulled it off. We just had to beat the Patsies, the NFL, and the refs.
 

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Nah. We got screwed and cheated, but the Rams weren't in on it. We still could have pulled it off. We just had to beat the Patsies, the NFL, and the refs.
I agree 100% the Rams were cheated. The Rams were never given the script.
 

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the same reason the olympics will always make sure they're behind the curve with the lastest enhancement drugs. they'll always put up a patsy like ben johnson but they never want to rid the sports of drugs. imagine what the times would be like without drugs. lord knows what flojo was taking for her(it) to still hold the world record 30 years later.

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Speaking of the Olympics, did you see yesterday where that sprinter was cleared because he was able to prove that his test was dirty due to all the making out with his girlfriend? Apparently, she was sick and also taking medication which contained a banned substance. They proved that he ingested it through his mouth from her mouth. Or there may have been something on her lips, I forget.

Thomas should try that one.
 

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PEDs should be mandatory. Then everyone is on the same level again.
 

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Additionally a Higbee suspension is probably on the way hopefully not until next season.
Move along nothing to see here,Higbee won't be suspended by the NFL since this happened before he was in the NFL.
 

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McVay will tolerate this crap because the vast majority of guys on the team are on PEDs. Thomas was dumb enough to get caught. That's his mistake.

Yea, it's only four games. There are 16 of them. If he can contribute to this team in the other 12 games, he should stay. Just work with him to keep him from getting caught next time.
So work with him so he doesn't get caught????

With all the player safety and a bad CBA that doesn't allow teams to develop players in the off season how can they take that approach?

What you are saying is this is just like MLB during the PED era, teams and the league are turning their head the other way until the press and public throw a fit?