Raiders’ Vegas stadium could hit hurdle

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Nevada gubernatorial candidate makes major threat to Raiders' Vegas stadium project

The city of Las Vegas is full of Raiders fans, and Dan Schwartz may have just given those fans something to think about when it comes to the Nevada gubernatorial election in November.

If Schwartz gets elected, one of his first acts as governor will be to throw a giant wrench into the Raiders' Las Vegas stadium project. Although Schwartz can't overturn the tax increase that the state approved in 2017 for the Raiders stadium, he does have another plan: He's going to veto any project that involves building any roads to the stadium.

"Assuming I'm elected, I cannot interfere with the various contracts that are out there," Schwartz told the Las Vegas Review-Journal this week. "But the governor does control the roads. What I will do is tell them that you can build the $2 billion stadium, but you ain't going to have any roads."

Although the state of Nevada is contributing $750 million in hotel tax money to the new stadium, that doesn't include the cost for infrastructure around the stadium, like new roads. The stadium is being built on the south end of The Strip, just west of Mandalay Bay, and the state is going to have to add freeway on-ramps and off-ramps to ease up congestion on game day.

So how would anyone get to the stadium if there are no roads? In a separate interview, Schwartz said fans can "roller skate" there, for all he cares.

"The state is in charge of the roads. And I can say, 'You want to go to the Raiders stadium? Well, you can get there on roller skates because I ain't building any roads,'" Schwartz said, via the Las Vegas Sun.

Schwartz, who currently serves as the state treasurer in Nevada, wants to see more money go toward education and less money go toward the stadium.

"Why are we taking $750 million in public funds when we have the worst schools in the nation and using it to effectively pay for a stadium for a group of guys who are billionaires?" Schwartz said, via the Sun. "I'm not saying there should not be a stadium. I don't mind building a $1 billion stadium. That's the point. We don't need to spend $2 billion dollars on the Taj Mahal of stadiums."

The final cost of the stadium is currently estimated to be $1.8 billion, with the Raiders chipping in $850 million to go along with $200 million from the NFLand $750 million from the state of Nevada.

For Schwartz to become governor, he'd first have to win the Republican primary on June 12. In a recent poll, Schwartz was trailing Nevada attorney general Adam Laxalt by a substantial margin, although that poll was conducted by Laxalt's team.

The Raiders' stadium has been a hot topic over the past two years, with supporters and detractors on both sides of the aisle. Although Schwartz, a Republican, was against it, the project was actually spearheaded by current governor, Brian Sandoval, who's also a Republican. On the other side of the aisle, Democratic gubernatorial candidate Chris Giunchigliani is also against the Raiders' stadium project, but she's given no indication that she would look to hinder the project if elected. On the Democratic side, Giunchigliani is in a tight race with Clark County commissioner Steve Sisolak, who has been one of the Raiders' biggest supporters.
 

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Now that im a bit older im starting to finally pay attention to people running for offices etc. Somewhat and it amazes me some people that run. I can understand his concern for education etc. But dont you think the extra travelling, commerce, and outside money brought because of the stadium would help reforms financially? Thats not including events or a potential super bowl there. Smh never understand people.
 

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Now that im a bit older im starting to finally pay attention to people running for offices etc. Somewhat and it amazes me some people that run. I can understand his concern for education etc. But dont you think the extra travelling, commerce, and outside money brought because of the stadium would help reforms financially? Thats not including events or a potential super bowl there. Smh never understand people.
Public education in Nevada is amoungst the worst in the nation.
He doesn't give a toss about education.
This is just grandstanding for something he knows he wouldn't do anything to stop.
I will vote for the first person to promised to restart nuke testing.
 

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Public education in Nevada is amoungst the worst in the nation.
He doesn't give a toss about education.
This is just grandstanding for something he knows he wouldn't do anything to stop.
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Huh? I didnt get any of that? Lol maybe because i dont know whats going on there.
 

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I've been to the old Cowboys stadium and the 9ers Candlestick park. Only 1/2 the parking lots were paved. Had to park in the dirt. I didn't like that and always wonder why? Maybe some elected official said "fuck'em; they can park on dirt for all I care!"
 

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Hmmm, wondering if he was educated in Nevada because he keeps saying "Ain't". Also stating that fans......including the ones that live there can piss off is an extremely low brow attitude to have for someone who is running for Governor.

He does sound like a standard politician....meaning his is a bottom of the barrel selection in life.
 

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Hmmm, wondering if he was educated in Nevada because he keeps saying "Ain't". Also stating that fans......including the ones that live there can tick off is an extremely low brow attitude to have for someone who is running for Governor.

He does sound like a standard politician....meaning his is a bottom of the barrel selection in life.
Just knowing his constituents.
 

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Every time a Politician says they are for education, they never are. Money always gets misappropriated and the Schools never see the money. In the United States of America our Schools should be cathedrals, however, unless you go to school in Palo Alto, it's never the case.

I doubt this candidate is able to block the project, its' good for the city because the money people spend before, during and after the game can actually be utilized to aid in other areas of the State, but again, it's just a talking point for Politicians, who for the most part like our appendix, are apparently useless.
 

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He's a major under dog in just his party. He's probably taking this stance to stir things up and trolling for votes.
 

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Ahhh, this brings back memories of the stadium construction, financing, and politicking from way back a couple of years ago. On a totally, totally unrelated matter from earlier this year:
  • The Oakland Raiders‘ Las Vegas stadium-building company is proposing to provide a $5 million bond to restore the stadium land to its original condition in the event that construction has to be halted partway through if it goes bankrupt.
http://www.fieldofschemes.com/2018/02/23/13493/friday-roundup-some-stuff-happened-man/

More: https://lasvegassun.com/news/2018/feb/21/raiders-stadium-fizzles-mid-project-eyesore-left/
 

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Schwartz is a moron. The stadium will not only serve its purpose with the pro team, but UNLV also badly needs a stadium. If anything, I think painting the damn thing Raiders' colors is what needs to change. It should be a Vegas stadium, not a Raiders stadium.

But politicians like him disgust me. It's anything for stirring up BS and votes. Doesn't have to make sense.

As a Nevada resident (for now at least), I am fully for the stadium simply because it provides additional entertainment draw for the city, and also serves our college team. This is the city of dreams dammit. Politicians like Schwartz are the worst thing that could happen at this juncture IMO.
 

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Vegas didn’t have any NEWS so they had to be extras on the hurdle that isn’t there. Its pepnews. Nothing to see here.

Honestly this is huge. The exposure of Vegas having an NFL team is going to be astronomical. Hotels are going to jump on this niche to get more people to stay at their hotels. Can’t wait.
 
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So this guy is saying he wants to make the hundreds of millions they are contracted to spend on the stadium, essentially worthless. Yep, sounds like a politician.
 

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Will a $1.8 billion stadium with the Raiders attract more new business to the state than a $1 billion stadium? Every neutral study I've seen on stadium economics says that stadiums are not cost effective ways of growing the economy. Making them fancier just makes it worse. Better to put that money into education, or into attracting job intensive industries to the area.

I suspect this guy is a crackpot. That doesn't mean that he's wrong that the stadium is a financial mistake for Vegas. But his way of fighting it - having it built, then denying it infrastructure as a way of throwing a hissy fit - that is insane.
 

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Will a $1.8 billion stadium with the Raiders attract more new business to the state than a $1 billion stadium? Every neutral study I've seen on stadium economics says that stadiums are not cost effective ways of growing the economy. Making them fancier just makes it worse. Better to put that money into education, or into attracting job intensive industries to the area.

I suspect this guy is a crackpot. That doesn't mean that he's wrong that the stadium is a financial mistake for Vegas. But his way of fighting it - having it built, then denying it infrastructure as a way of throwing a hissy fit - that is insane.

Vegas is different. The venue will be used for all manner of things, from massive conventions to mega concerts. I'm sure it'll be booked year round, as opposed to stadiums in most cities that sit empty for a larger part of the year.
 

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Vegas is different. The venue will be used for all manner of things, from massive conventions to mega concerts. I'm sure it'll be booked year round, as opposed to stadiums in most cities that sit empty for a larger part of the year.

Vegas is full of convention centers. How many more events will they get with a $1.8 billion facility, as opposed to a $1 billion facility, as opposed to just using what they already have? I'm sure a lot of the business will just be cannibalized from facilities they already have, facilities actually designed and optimized for conventions, as opposed to something designed and optimized for football use. I doubt there will be much traffic that Vegas wouldn't already have. EVERY stadium is justified by all the new business it will supposedly bring, but study after study done by independent researchers show that the new business is minimal. If there is going to be an economic boost by that spending, it's more efficient to spend it in non-stadium ways. In Tempe, AZ for instance, the Cardinals were supposed to build a stadium on a subsidized piece of land. It fell through for various reasons (fortunately) and the Cardinals went to Glendale. Meanwhile for minimal subsidization the Tempe land was used for retail, especially for an Ikea, for more jobs and a far larger boost in tax collections.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_convention_centers_in_the_Las_Vegas_Valley
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/sports-jobs-taxes-are-new-stadiums-worth-the-cost/