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[Hacksaw]

Dude, when the Rams were good the EJD was straight up rocking and I mean REALLY loud. It literally was deafening and you could not hear what the person next to you was saying even if they yelled. That was quite the home field advantage. Ask any player who played in the NFL in that area and most would tell you they did not want to travel to St. Louis. The GSOT along with the croud noise? It gave Seattle's home field advantage a run for their money.

And they had plenty to cheer for. Props to all who represented and blew out their vocal chords. Those sure were some great days.
Never once did I believe this was about the fans.
Just for now everything is under a microscope.

 

[dbrooks25]

And they had plenty to cheer for. Props to all who represented and blew out their vocal chords. Those sure were some great days.
Never once did I believe this was about the fans.
Just for now everything is under a microscope.

Yep, sad thing is we probably wouldn't be here talking about this had this team been a contender the past 5 years. Oh well.

 

[RamBill]

An NFL-conducted focus group shows St. Louis fans would continue to support the Rams, but dislike team owner Stan Kroenke. Randy Karraker and D’Marco Farr on The Fast Lane discusses the study.

Listen to Focus Group Discussion

 

[mr.stlouis]

So the big time, game changing rumor, on the moment is this tweet....

Tim McKernan
‏@tmckernan From @davidhunn on @TMASTL: Over the last 24 hrs, I'm hearing there are a lot of options on financing. One of those is a private investor.

"Lots of options" is just astounding, but not that surprising.

This STL Riverfront stadium is growing not just for the LA threat or the fact this is the year of the Ram, but because the STL is screaming for the MLS come to town. People keep talking about the NFL surveying STL, but the MLS is definately taking note at the potentially record breaking crowd at Bush in the upcoming game womans game, men's sold out.

The potential to not only make big money off of the Rams but also an MLS is becoming very real. It's drawing some big fish, naturally.

I do think it's clear STL controls it's own destiny. This of course is assuming the Chargers continue to close the book on SD. I don't even know what to say about OAK besides nobody wants them but OAK....

 

[RamFan503]

I'll be very interested to see these financing options. I also still don't get how outside investors profit from this deal. The pie can only be sliced so thin. I can see naming rights coming into play but outside of that, I really can't see how private money sees a return. Obviously, if they have people willing to put up millions, they know where the return is coming from. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Anyone have any ideas on this?

 

[mr.stlouis]

I'll be very interested to see these financing options. I also still don't get how outside investors profit from this deal. The pie can only be sliced so thin. I can see naming rights coming into play but outside of that, I really can't see how private money sees a return. Obviously, if they have people willing to put up millions, they know where the return is coming from. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Anyone have any ideas on this?

Word is Enterprise would put down a big chunk of change if the MO legislature does not increase a rental tax that is coming. That's how they'll make their money.

Again, speculation. But its all we got.

 

[RamFan503]

Word is Enterprise would put down a big chunk of change if the MO legislature does not increase a rental tax that is coming. That's how they'll make their money.

Again, speculation. But its all we got.

I actually believe that would be illegal. They can lobby against it, campaign against it, but outright paying to not have legislation passed would be bribery. There has to be something else.

Maybe they'll have Enterprise Rental on the MLS jerseys as I think that is allowed in soccer. Still - I'm not sure what that is worth. It will be interesting to see what they come up with. Again - I'm guessing they either have some kind of return in mind unless it's a smoke screen but I really can't figure out what it would be.

Hopefully we'll get some actual answers by May. I just find it odd that they are not disclosing anything. What do they have to lose? Is it just matching MOs with Stan? Is there some way they would lose funding if they let the cat out of the bag? Are they bluffing to buy time? Sure will be glad when this is all over.

 

[bluecoconuts]

I'll be very interested to see these financing options. I also still don't get how outside investors profit from this deal. The pie can only be sliced so thin. I can see naming rights coming into play but outside of that, I really can't see how private money sees a return. Obviously, if they have people willing to put up millions, they know where the return is coming from. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Anyone have any ideas on this?

I'm curious to how Kroenke would react if someone else gets naming rights money, but he doesn't? Given that he likes to own and operate his stadiums, not only does he not get that, but other people are going to be cut into the profits. I'd imagine he's not too stoked.

 

[Thordaddy]

I actually believe that would be illegal. They can lobby against it, campaign against it, but outright paying to not have legislation passed would be bribery. There has to be something else.

Maybe they'll have Enterprise Rental on the MLS jerseys as I think that is allowed in soccer. Still - I'm not sure what that is worth. It will be interesting to see what they come up with. Again - I'm guessing they either have some kind of return in mind unless it's a smoke screen but I really can't figure out what it would be.

Hopefully we'll get some actual answers by May. I just find it odd that they are not disclosing anything. What do they have to lose? Is it just matching MOs with Stan? Is there some way they would lose funding if they let the cat out of the bag? Are they bluffing to buy time? Sure will be glad when this is all over.

Wow memory lane time ,my first wife's dad was the CPA for Executive Leasing,which is now Enterprise, actually attended a Gridbird game with the CEO on the firms tickets,I assume this is Mr. Taylors son.
X had a Gremlin X leased from them when we married, I was no and still am no fan of leasing so as soon as we got hitched I called Mr. T and bought out the lease, he gave me the pitch, and I pretty well told him to save it for someone who couldn't figure it out.

Caused some stir ,one of the many that saved me from my father in law controlling our lives by me working for him

 

[den-the-coach]

Kudos to the people of St. Louis and Governor Nixon...This has been tremendous!

 

[RamBill]

The NFL held three different focus group meetings in the St. Louis area on Wednesday as part of the league’s market assessment studying the city’s long-term viablity of having a franchise. As Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch wrote, about 15 to 20 Rams season-ticket holders were in each of the meetings, held throughout the day at the L&E Research building in Maplewood. One of those in attendance, Kip Starnes, joined The Hollywood Casino Press Box on Thursday to discuss what happened during the meetings and some of the stuff he saw.

Listen to the Focus Group Discussion

 

[BuiltRamTough]

Private investors or bankers don't help finance stadiums unless there is development around the stadium. Similar to what SD and Oak are trying to do. AEG was a private investor and look where it got them. Private investors want a part of a team or interest throught the loan. Like I'll give you 350 mill but I want 500 back. If they was a wise decision owners will all do it. There's not enough of the pie to go around. Floyd Kephart is a private investor and a real estate guru. He wants to fund a new raiders and A's stadium. He'll get his money back from the office retail and housing around the stadium.

If STL gets a private investor, the NFL and Stan might not want that Bc then they have to share. Public money like bonds and taxes are cool Bc the NFL doesn't pay that money back.

You think STL could get a private investor but places like Minnesota and Atlanta and SD can't?

 

[ChrisW]

Maybe they'll have Enterprise Rental on the MLS jerseys as I think that is allowed in soccer

Came across this. Some of the MLS jersey sponsorships are in the $4 million per year range.

1 Los Angeles Galaxy: $4.4 million / year from vitamin manufacturer Herbalife

2= Montreal Impact: $4 million / year from Bank of Montreal

2= Seattle Sounders: $4 million / year from Microsoft, for its XBox video game system

2= Toronto F.C.: $4 million / year from also Bank of Montreal

5 Vancouver Whitecaps: $3.87 million / year from telecoms conglomerate Bell Canada

6= Portland Timbers: $3 million / year from Alaska Airlines

6= Philadelphia Union: $3 million / year from baked goods organisation Grupo Bimbo

8 D.C. United: $2.80 million / year from automaker Volkswagen

9 Chicago Fire: $2.67 million / year from consumer foods giant Quaker

10 Houston Dynamo: $2.54 million / year from energy company Greenstar

11 Chivas USA: $2 million / year from beer brand Corona

12 Columbus Crew: $1.5 million / year from male grooming company Barbasol

13 Real Salt Lake: $1 million / year from health juice manufacturer XanGo

*some of these may be outdated. I think the article was 2011 and some teams might have signed new deals. It also doesn't show the two new teams in Orlando and NY.

http://www.totalfootballmag.com/fea...mls-kit-sponsorship-values-compare-to-europe/

 

[Hacksaw]

NFL Hall-of-Fame player and broadcaster Dan Dierdorf joined The HollywoodCasinoPress Box on Thursday to talk about the prospect of the Rams leaving St. Louis and what he’s hearing on the Los Angeles relocation situation.

http://www.rams-news.com/dan-dierdo...l-stop-kroenke-from-leaving-st-louis-audio-2/

 

[Goose]

Word is Enterprise would put down a big chunk of change if the MO legislature does not increase a rental tax that is coming. That's how they'll make their money.

Again, speculation. But its all we got.

Not to say you are wrong but someone brought that possibility to Andy Banker and he didn't seem to think that was correct.

 

[mr.stlouis]

Not to say you are wrong but someone brought that possibility to Andy Banker and he didn't seem to think that was correct.

Meh, well that takes some of the fun out of it. I wonder who it is, then.

This doesn't rule out the naming rights to the Riverfront proposal, though.

 

[BuiltRamTough]

View: http://www.nfl.com/videos/st-louis-rams/0ap3000000483255/Move-to-L-A-on-the-horizon-for-Rams

 

[NateTheRam]

They wouldn't have a clause in the plan for it not being built if it was guaranteed to be built. Let's try to avoid absolutes unless you have been in on the negotiations mkay?

Lol buddy its getting built no matter what, like How Roman Reigns says "Believe That"

 

[BuiltRamTough]

There's a reason Stan hired Jeff Fisher. He's been through this (relocation) before. The way the Rams operate under him will make the transition easier with no distractions. IMO.

 

[ChrisW]

Letter from the Attorney General of Missouri regarding extending the bonds. Notice how it's addressed to Ryan Silvey, the guy that wanted to pass the bill to require Nixon to push the bondss through state senate first.

*Full Disclosure: I found this on RamStalk.