Media on Stafford

[kurtfaulk]

He also got unlucky against the 9ers with the first int

c'mon man, there was no luck involved. if he placed that ball 1 yard more to the left it was an easy td.

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[Ballhawk]

Sorry, but watching Stafford this year has not erased the idea that he throws a good number of really bad passes. Again, he did not get punished for two of those in consecutive playoff weekends.
If the Tartt drop doesn't illustrate this, then I guess we're just at loggerheads.

We can make excuses for those passes.. or we can just accept that they're part of the package.

So, you believe that Stafford just missed his receivers by over ten yards and it wasn't a mix up on the route?
I mean I guess the ball could have slipped in his hand or something but he was on target the rest of the game.

 

[AZRams]

He had some incredibly bad turnovers this year… more than other QBs.

But then he righted the ship. I’m gonna hope that run of bad TOs is in the past.

At the end of the day he still has the highest Second Half and 4Q QB rating...

He is the best QB in the league when most games are decided.

 

[Merlin]

All it takes for the Rams to lose is the OL not playing well. Or the defense having comms issues. Or the Rams DL getting beat up front. Or our QB having a bad day. This is the nature of football. Hell special teams can end you.

And what is really strange about the Rams is they have been more dominant than the scores have shown in the playoffs, leaving a lot of points on the field in each game. So we definitely shouldn't be overconfident. But I think the Rams are the better team by a good margin and they have the defense to slow that Bengals attack and get after that excellent young QB.

Last time McVay was in the Super Bowl he got away from balance and his QB had it all on his plate and came up short. This time he's got a more experienced guy that he has pushed all season to master the offense for this moment. Stafford has fearlessly worked in new players, putting the ball on them with confidence even when the learning curve leads to greater chance of turnovers. He seems to have worked the kinks out for the most part with Odell, which has been crucial in the playoffs so far.

He might need to do the same with Blanton in this one if Higs can't go. Which would be a shame, because Higs has settled in as a great piece in this offense. Choice routes with a new guy can be dicey in terms of the QB reading his body language and predicting what he'll do. That leads to either late throws or throws to where the target isn't.

Either way I feel really good about this game. Just wishing Sunday would get here faster.

 

[payote75]

Sorry, but watching Stafford this year has not erased the idea that he throws a good number of really bad passes. Again, he did not get punished for two of those in consecutive playoff weekends.
If the Tartt drop doesn't illustrate this, then I guess we're just at loggerheads.

We can make excuses for those passes.. or we can just accept that they're part of the package.

I think we don't understand one another I'm not debating whether they are part of the package or not what I'm saying is that pundits and media try to 95% of the time only focus on that to keep Stafford on that loser take box. That's what the original response was about. Typically I don't care what media says but some people get under my skin as well as there is a two week layover so it's hard and you would like to be a part of Superbowl weeks when your team is on it but it's difficult when all you hear is this same story.

As I'm typing this I'm on the car listening to sports radio and hearing about how Cincy caught fire right time lightening in a bottle at right time and burrow this burrow that....what did the Rams do fall out of bed and sleep walk there way to the Superbowl. That's a separate rant lol.

 

[Merlin]

At the end of the day he still has the highest Second Half and 4Q QB rating...

He is the best QB in the league when most games are decided.

Yeah we have had the best QB so far in the playoffs and it's a major reason why we are in this game.

The reason he eats Cover 1 and 3 btw is because of his ability to eyefuck the safeties. He's been doing that all year mostly to good effect. It's hard to do that if you're getting heat from the rush, as then you're trying to get all master class on top of what is already one of the hardest things to do at this level which is play QB.

So the Bengals are gonna play a ton of two safety calls. Bank that. On early downs I am sure they will show heavy box then drop one safety out. They did that to the Chiefs. Rams just need to run straight into the look regardless because they'll still have a ton of success IMO.

But with two safeties there's a lot less real estate for the QB to do his thing. So being patient like they have been so far this playoff season is important. Work the ball down the field. Keep it balanced. Then finish with 7. This game is about holding the other team to 3 while you get 7 because both offenses are good as it gets.

 

[Kupped]

c'mon man, there was no luck involved. if he placed that ball 1 yard more to the left it was an easy td.

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It was a tipped int that fell into a safety's hands. Rams tipped more than one Jimmy G ball.

Yeah.. that's luck.

 

[Kupped]

I think we don't understand one another I'm not debating whether they are part of the package or not what I'm saying is that pundits and media try to 95% of the time only focus on that to keep Stafford on that loser take box. That's what the original response was about. Typically I don't care what media says but some people get under my skin as well as there is a two week layover so it's hard and you would like to be a part of Superbowl weeks when your team is on it but it's difficult when all you hear is this same story.

As I'm typing this I'm on the car listening to sports radio and hearing about how Cincy caught fire right time lightening in a bottle at right time and burrow this burrow that....what did the Rams do fall out of bed and sleep walk there way to the Superbowl. That's a separate rant lol.

I guess this is probably more about how people define "media" to me.

I think hot-take radio and TV and podcasts are pure shit. I try to listen to ones from people who at least attempt to do some reporting/analysis. Again.. pure shit.

Part of that, to me, is just a natural outcome of the landscape.. filling hours of content and competing.... and, unfortunately, hot-take bullshit sells.

That said.. there is very good reporting/analysis based commentary on Stafford that is backed up by numbers and his performances.
He will absolutely throw some ducks.

But, the thing is, he can be so spectacular that he can overcome those.... especially with McVay.

And Cincy is A FANTASTIC FUCKING STORY!!!
They won 2 games in 19 and now they're in the SB?? Beat the Chiefs on the road???
Absolutely no need to hate on Cincy for who they are or what they've accomplished.. it's a fun fucking team.

And I want the Rams to absolutely destroy them.

 

[Kupped]

Yeah we have had the best QB so far in the playoffs and it's a major reason why we are in this game.

The reason he eats Cover 1 and 3 btw is because of his ability to eyefuck the safeties. He's been doing that all year mostly to good effect. It's hard to do that if you're getting heat from the rush, as then you're trying to get all master class on top of what is already one of the hardest things to do at this level which is play QB.

So the Bengals are gonna play a ton of two safety calls. Bank that. On early downs I am sure they will show heavy box then drop one safety out. They did that to the Chiefs. Rams just need to run straight into the look regardless because they'll still have a ton of success IMO.

But with two safeties there's a lot less real estate for the QB to do his thing. So being patient like they have been so far this playoff season is important. Work the ball down the field. Keep it balanced. Then finish with 7. This game is about holding the other team to 3 while you get 7 because both offenses are good as it gets.

Josh Allen was the best QB in the playoffs. It's not his fault they lost, at all.. and he was, literally, unstoppable. He just didn't get the ball last.

And Stafford's been fucking fantastic.

 

[MachS]

So, you believe that Stafford just missed his receivers by over ten yards and it wasn't a mix up on the route?
I mean I guess the ball could have slipped in his hand or something but he was on target the rest of the game.

Impossible to know, but IMO its no coincidence that on a lot of those deep INTs the closest WR is Beckham. As great as OBJ has been, there's no way him at Stafford have full chemistry yet, especially on deep stuff. I think he's only caught one deep bomb so far and it was the sluggo route vs GB that went for 6. That is a big part of OBJs game and will be deadly next year once they get on the same page. Stafford makes a lot of risky throws, but a few of the ones that look really bad like the Tart drop I think are miscommunications not bad accuracy.

 

[MachS]

Yeah we have had the best QB so far in the playoffs and it's a major reason why we are in this game.

The reason he eats Cover 1 and 3 btw is because of his ability to eyefuck the safeties. He's been doing that all year mostly to good effect. It's hard to do that if you're getting heat from the rush, as then you're trying to get all master class on top of what is already one of the hardest things to do at this level which is play QB.

So the Bengals are gonna play a ton of two safety calls. Bank that. On early downs I am sure they will show heavy box then drop one safety out. They did that to the Chiefs. Rams just need to run straight into the look regardless because they'll still have a ton of success IMO.

But with two safeties there's a lot less real estate for the QB to do his thing. So being patient like they have been so far this playoff season is important. Work the ball down the field. Keep it balanced. Then finish with 7. This game is about holding the other team to 3 while you get 7 because both offenses are good as it gets.

Our playoff success on 3rd down has been instrumental. I think we're at like 55%-60%. If we can stay patient as you said, take the underneath stuff and check downs when theyre dropping a ton into coverage, we can keep drives alive and control the clock. And if we run the ball a lot as I suspect we will, it will make CIN bring a safety down which will make our play action game unstoppable.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Sorry, but watching Stafford this year has not erased the idea that he throws a good number of really bad passes. Again, he did not get punished for two of those in consecutive playoff weekends.
If the Tartt drop doesn't illustrate this, then I guess we're just at loggerheads.

We can make excuses for those passes.. or we can just accept that they're part of the package.

Was the Tart dropped pass a bad decision? Feeling the rush? A weakened arm? Bad feet? Miscommunication?

To me I'm thinking a product of players in his face. Or his arm is not as strong as he is used to. Its a long season filled with many hits. My point is that not alk bad throws are do to trying to do too much. I'd love to hear what really happened on that throw, even if its a simple answer. Its not like he's A rookie.

 

[Stump23]

Every quality MVP QB has thrown bad passes that got picked off and sometimes even returned for TD's. Every one...Unitas, Starr, Staubach, Tarkenton, Bradshaw (shit ton in his earlier career) Aikman, Montana, Brady, Elway. I'm definitely not giving Stafford a gold jacket quite yet by throwing up those names, but the narrative of him being lucky or whatever they want to say is tough to take. Great playoff run thus far with one more chapter to go. I think the collective thinking here on this board gets it. The multiple story lines on how we ALL got here and the QB being one of the final touches of an incredible game plan that started in 2013 or so and now coming to fruition will be determined on Sunday. I can't wait. Nervous as hell but know in my heart that WE are built for this game to win.

 

[payote75]

I guess this is probably more about how people define "media" to me.

I think hot-take radio and TV and podcasts are pure shit. I try to listen to ones from people who at least attempt to do some reporting/analysis. Again.. pure shit.

Part of that, to me, is just a natural outcome of the landscape.. filling hours of content and competing.... and, unfortunately, hot-take bullshit sells.

That said.. there is very good reporting/analysis based commentary on Stafford that is backed up by numbers and his performances.
He will absolutely throw some ducks.

But, the thing is, he can be so spectacular that he can overcome those.... especially with McVay.

And Cincy is A FANTASTIC FUCKING STORY!!!
They won 2 games in 19 and now they're in the SB?? Beat the Chiefs on the road???
Absolutely no need to hate on Cincy for who they are or what they've accomplished.. it's a fun fucking team.

And I want the Rams to absolutely destroy them.

Wasn't hating on them either lolol although I want to decimate them. That's why media sucks because for people that know the game or are true fans like us they can't sneak that shit through but it's the common fan or the passer by that gets influenced by false narrative or let me rephrase "partial narratives" I just want to be fair even if this was a different QB or if Stafford wasn't on the Rams we have enough knowledge to say "hey wait a second how many picks for Brady touchdowns etc. Just a lot of stuff that they latching on to.

Then on the flip side I'm trying to enjoy these 2 weeks as it's our Rams but where can I go besides here to not get all this bogus shit. I'm not political but I could only imagine how nuts people go with media when it comes to important shit and all the narratives created by dipshits .....wow...anyway we getting there buddy lolol ...Go Rams!!!!!

 

[Merlin]

Our playoff success on 3rd down has been instrumental. I think we're at like 55%-60%. If we can stay patient as you said, take the underneath stuff and check downs when theyre dropping a ton into coverage, we can keep drives alive and control the clock. And if we run the ball a lot as I suspect we will, it will make CIN bring a safety down which will make our play action game unstoppable.

No doubt.

What I like here is that the Rams have faced the toughest defenses so far and have won games late vs those defenses with clutch QB play. This game shouldn't be close unless we have a bad day on defense. But I don't see that happening with all these defensive studs smelling that ring.

Just looking at the two teams outside the lens of my Rams fandom I see a big Rams win and maybe a blowout. But knowing the Rams it will of course be close. Because they can't have us celebrating in the fourth quarter or anything that would be crazy.

 

[Merlin]

Josh Allen was the best QB in the playoffs. It's not his fault they lost, at all.. and he was, literally, unstoppable. He just didn't get the ball last.

And Stafford's been fucking fantastic.

I disagree. Allen's been putting up pinball numbers but I don't think he gets past SF.

I think we have the guy this year. And we're gonna win it all.

 

[MachS]

Just looking at the two teams outside the lens of my Rams fandom I see a big Rams win and maybe a blowout.

If we play our best game I could see something like this happening too. What a treat for us Rams fans it would be to smash someone in the Super Bowl and not have it come down to a last play. I dont care how we get it done as long as we do. One thing thats not being talked about enough is McVay and what he learned from Belichick in his first SB. We have the coaching advantage and the experience advantage. All of us wrote off the 'more experience' narrative 3 years ago vs NE and said it didn't matter, but it actually did.

 

[Rambitious1]

Good - most of them are wrong. They just want a new QB story to replace Tom Brady and it kills then that KC lost!

Exactly my thought! LOL
I was freaking stoked that most of them picked CInncy.
Freaking dullards. Hahahaha

 

[MachS]

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[WarnerToBruce]

I think we win this game easily. But I've thought that before, like against the Titans when I was only worried about Henry (who didn't even get to play). I thought that one was a 3 TD gimme after he went down.

So, I am now just hoping we win this thing and have a great time during and after!