Kurt Warner on Edmonds-McKernon Show

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SEGMENT 5 - Kurt Warner:
Soulful on this presentation, tough job raising kids but was not much easier taking care of adult kids on respective teams, thoughts on the current state of the Rams as they decide what to do moving forward, Sam Bradford with the Rams in the near future, wondering if a QB can become gun shy when there's not consistent protection, Kurt's thoughts on the Rams' possible early draft picks, his thoughts on Johnny Manziel, always fond of STL & trying to stay in shape but things could always be worse.

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meh, since he publicly said he's basically a Cardinal for life, I've soured somewhat.
 

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meh, since he publicly said he's basically a Cardinal for life, I've soured somewhat.

I cant say I blame him. After the team, the media, and the fans ran him out of town he found a home where he felt wanted and appreciated.
 

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PhxRam giving him the benefit of the doubt:
I cant say I blame him. After the team, the media, and the fans ran him out of town he found a home where he felt wanted and appreciated.
The real fans weren't responsible for running him out of town.
 

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And I agree.. I never singled out any particular area of the fan base.
Just say it, because we're all thinking it anyway.
It was Les.
 

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I cant say I blame him. After the team, the media, and the fans ran him out of town he found a home where he felt wanted and appreciated.
It really sucks, first we have to endure watching him leave, now we gotta hear him say he thinks of Zona first. It's a double whammy.
 

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It really sucks, first we have to endure watching him leave, now we gotta hear him say he thinks of Zona first. It's a double whammy.

But again... can you blame him?

If this franchise had done the smart thing and stuck with him, he would never have uttered those words.

Was he struggling at the time? yeah he was. Injuries and ball security were starting to effect the team. But they should have shut him down and let him sit it out for the remainder of the year.

Say what you want about his brief stop in NY, but he did have that team above .500 before they made the final move to go with Manning.

As soon as he arrives in Arizona the team immediately takes off. As talented as a receiving corps Arizona had, it still took a certain individual to make the magic happen.
 

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But again... can you blame him?

If this franchise had done the smart thing and stuck with him, he would never have uttered those words.

Was he struggling at the time? yeah he was. Injuries and ball security were starting to effect the team. But they should have shut him down and let him sit it out for the remainder of the year.

Say what you want about his brief stop in NY, but he did have that team above .500 before they made the final move to go with Manning.

As soon as he arrives in Arizona the team immediately takes off. As talented as a receiving corps Arizona had, it still took a certain individual to make the magic happen.
They didn't immediately take off in Arizona. It took time. And when the team was ready his production took off. I see a similarity with Sam. The talent is there with him. Improve the talent around him and reap the reward. Got to put a good team around the QB.
 

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I don't think it was a matter of time and putting the right pieces in place for Warner, his thumb was a liability(and still is, IMO) and until he donned the gloves, he was a liability. There were plenty of instances where he played well without the glove so I don't think it was the talent around him. He just couldn't sustain protecting the ball so he would always fumble. It was an adventure every single snap of the ball. Once that wasn't an issue, he was back to his old self.
 

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Warner is right about QB's. And he is right about Bradford.
I agree, but, and he didn't say he was, Sam is not gun shy. I agree that he gets rid of the ball fast, and every bit of behind the scenes coaching, starting with Spags, asked him to do that. You see him micke'd up, and you see Dick Curl tell him to do it. Constant and quick pressure right up the gut, forces him to do it. We saw the stats just the other day on how good Sam actually is when throwing under pressure, something most of the fan base doesn't see.

Kurt said you need all 11 on the same page, on the same level, our line has never performed at a high level in the passing game. This is the last time that I'll say it before this draft. We need to fix the offensive line in this draft. We can't keep signing under performing vets, and expecting them to be great with us. We need some young talent to work with. This will help any QB that starts for us, but I still believe that Sam could be a great QB for us. I've seen nothing that would make me feel otherwise. The pieces are finally coming together, but the there are a few still missing. Are you listening Snead? Find them.
 

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Nope, I wasn't in his shoes. Not sure what I'd do if I was. But it still hurts to know that we're 2nd fiddle now.

The clowns in the FO are 2nd fiddle, the bandwagon fans who thought Marc to be a superior QB are 2nd fiddle, but not the die hard fan base!
 

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Were you in his shoes, would you be saying the same thing?

I have to give him credit, he is nicer about it than most guys would be. Had it been me I'd have started every interview at the SB with "Hey St. Louis.....eat it!"
 

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Nope, I wasn't in his shoes. Not sure what I'd do if I was. But it still hurts to know that we're 2nd fiddle now.
It doesn't hurt for me at all. If Kurt's glory days were limited to just his time with the Rams, he'd just be a footnote. A 3 year blaze of glory that would go down in football history as a fluke. That he resurrected his career with the Cardinals is a big part of his story and ultimately, what will get him into the HOF.

If you add to that, he actually threw more passes and played in more games as a Cardinal and ultimately chose to remain living there it isn't too hard to see why he thinks of himself as a Cardinal. Most importantly with Warner though, I think you have to remember that when he says that, I fully believe that he isn't knocking anyone else. Warner's a class act, through and through so when he says he considers himself a Cardinal, it isn't a back-handed insult to the Rams. He and his family always wanted to live in a warm climate so there's just too much in favor of AZ with it's team and everything else for Warner to not consider himself more of a Cardinal.

This isn't like Bettis or Dickerson or some of the other guys who've bad-mouthed the Rams team and fans after they left.

Warner did everything he could for the Rams and even helped them usher in the Bulger era when the team thought that was what was best. Class act. Rams legend.
 

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It really sucks, first we have to endure watching him leave, now we gotta hear him say he thinks of Zona first. It's a double whammy.

I think you are looking at it wrong. He didn't leave, he was thrown out. He was cut, they didn't even make an attempt to trade him for a 6th round pick and a bag of oranges! He spent a year behind an inferior QB with lesser skills and did it with a smile on his face, and he said and did ALL the right things while Martz and Bernie stabbed him in the back over and over and the FO and Georgia watched and did nothing. To Martz credit he did cop to it years later, none of the other parties have.

The fact that he doesn't bad mouth the Rams highlights what a genuinely nice guy he is because almost any other player would, or would at least say "I'm past that and I won't talk about it".

If this type of thing happened to you with an employer how insulted would you be?
 

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lets not forget Zygmont had a small part in his leaving also...at least I think he did