Kenny Young's Ejection

[Corbin]

This was a fair ejection.

Guy was tackled from behind at the end of the play but got up and went off on the ref hitting his hat and glasses and knew it was a ref.

Goodbye. Learn your lesson.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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damn you @Selassie I for making my ears have to listen to vilma again.

anyway, as soon as he started getting in the ref's face i knew he was getting ejected. he should've used that anger in the next play and hit that linemen as hard as possible on route to the rb.

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[majrleaged]

I'm more curious about what exactly he was so pissed about initially.

yea, I wish the commentary and the replay would have tried to see what lead to the out burst.

 

[NJRamsFan]

Meh. I agree he didn’t intend to but he lost control and he is responsible for his actions and the repercussions

 

[OldSchool]

When you got AD and Ramsey chewing on you because you did something wrong you need to pay attention and learn from it. I agree a lot of stuff they do these days officiating the game is very weak but you simply don't touch an official, his ejection was warranted.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Refs shouldn't jump into shit like that and not expect to receive some incidental contact from highly agitated players in the heat of the moment. If they are permitted to physically grab players... it should be understood that incidental contact could come to them as a result. Either that... or they shouldn't be allowed to touch a player at all.

Kenny was wrong and he deserved the ejection.

BUT… That’s a valid point. If the ref was outside the “scrum”, would Kenny have been ejected?

I’d argue, no. In fact, there may be no penalty at all.

 

[oldnotdead]

If you look closely it's when he's ranting and waving his arms around that got him ejected. While waving his arms you can see him make contact with the ref on the ref's arm or shoulder. It was more of a graze but there was contact. When I saw that I knew he was going to get ejected. So it IMO it wasn't the hat contact, it was before that.

Merlin's right he needs to control his emotions. He hurt his team because he simply allowed himself to go off the rails. If he simply had kept his arms close to his body while he was yelling he wouldn't have gotten ejected.

 

[blackbart]

Young was out of control, doesn’t matter what happened to trigger it. It’s men playing football shits going to happen put your big boy pants on and help your team win.

He blew it and got what he deserved.

 

[SWAdude]

I see this both ways.

Lineman definitely pile drive Young. which should have got that player ejected to begin with. That was bad.

Young is angry as maybe most players would, ref comes up from behind and got close to the pile, Young turns around to plead his case as he is literally right up on Kenny so as give him Zero room and then what happens happened.

I see zero intention of contact and it is a judgement call. I lean where there were other means to deal with this unintentional act than removing him from the building.

Lets not forget that the Colts got flagged for taunting on that call. Something was going on there.

 

[XXXIVwin]

Lets not forget that the Colts got flagged for taunting on that call. Something was going on there.

IMHO the taunting occurred after the flag on Young, as the Colts were taunting him about it.

IMHO the taunting was at least in part a "make up" call by the refs. Refs knew that the contact by Young was unintentional, and they also knew they completely missed whatever it was that got Young so pissed off in the first place.

So it ended up being one of those "offsetting penalties" deals, for the most part.

 

[So Ram]

I didn't agree with the ejection. Simply put... I think intent needs to be considered when tossing a player for "contact with an official". I don't believe that Kenny meant to touch that ref's hat in the slightest... he grazed his hat after the official came up behind him and started grabbing at KENNY. The ref made contact with KENNY from behind as there was all kinds of extra curricular activity going on in that pile of players. Obviously Kenny was HIGHLY PISSED about something that happened at the end of that play. Players don't freak like that over normal game violence.

When that ref made contact with Kenny from behind, he had no idea that it was a ref grabbing him. Hell, there were colt players all around him and it could have been one of them for all he knew. Helmets do restrict your peripheral vision. Once he realized finally that it was a zebra grabbing him... Kenny walked away immediately.

Grazing a refs hat as he physically grabs YOU from behind during an obvious dust-up should not be something a player is tossed for. Kenny clearly did not mean to graze his hat and I think he thought it was a colt player who was grabbing him.

Refs shouldn't jump into shit like that and not expect to receive some incidental contact from highly agitated players in the heat of the moment. If they are permitted to physically grab players... it should be understood that incidental contact could come to them as a result. Either that... or they shouldn't be allowed to touch a player at all.

It's completely different when a player means to make contact with an official. That shit is bush-league and should never be tolerated. What Kenny did yesterday was nothing like that if you're asking me. He did not intentionally make contact with that dumpy ref... he accidentally grazed his hat after being grabbed from behind by the ref first. Reasonable judgement needs to be used in cases like that. No fucking way did he purposefully make contact with that ref. It's very easy to see the difference.

For those of you who are going to disagree with my stance here... you should know that my oldest son @Ramrasta didn't agree with me yesterday while we watched it together either. His wife however, agreed with me. She didn't see Kenny meaning to graze the hat either.

I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion on this as far as if his ejection was justified... but I am saying that refs should NOT be permitted to make purposeful contact with a player at all if reasonaable judgment is not going to be used if a player makes incidental contact with a ref afterwards.



View: https://youtu.be/iY-HqiRjIpw

the way you explained it was totally different from what I saw. He got into the face of the Ref. AD99 & Jalen RAMsey in no way would have been that upset for him lift his arm to the ref. He didn’t walk away before yelling at the Ref imo.
Even if I was to agree he shouldn’t have been thrown out? The result of it only will bring the team & defense together more.I like the leadership & ownership ship. The Rams have a real good group of players that have each other’s backs.

 

[RamsOfCastamere]

That was a dirty plan by that lineman. You can't bear hug a defender from that back and then drive him to the ground. That should have been a personal file or at least a holding penalty.

Kenny was upset that no ref saw that happen after the whistle. Now after he got up and saw the ref, he shouldn't have yelled inches from his face, waving his arms. That itself deserves an injection.

 

[jap]

That was a dirty plan by that lineman. You can't bear hug a defender from that back and then drive him to the ground. That should have been a personal file or at least a holding penalty.

Kenny was upset that no ref saw that happen after the whistle. Now after he got up and saw the ref, he shouldn't have yelled inches from his face, waving his arms. That itself deserves an injection.

Perhaps the league will fine or suspend the lineman after the incident is officially reviewed.

 

[VegasRam]

That itself deserves an injection.

But, but… he was already vaxed!

 

[Mackeyser]

Well, it's good practice because if anyone thought Quentin Nelson was someone to play to the last echo of the whistle, then get ready for the Buc's Center, Ryan Jensen, plays to the last memory of the last echo of the whistle... and Jensen has a history of blocking guys onto the pile after the whistle and even got flagged for it this weekend, I think.

I really don't like Jensen... He reminds me too much of that shitbag Evan Dietrich-Smith (the one who nearly broke Suh's back on a down block AFTER the whistle and then Suh retaliated by flipping him and then stomping on him).

What's funny is that prior to that incident, people kinda knew EDS was a dirty shitbag, but what's worse is that because of the Sun incident, he got away with a TON of shit after that, some of it really gross trying to injure type stuff.

Jensen may just be an asshole, but rest assured that he's willing to get a flag to start some shit... so the D needs to be disciplined on Sunday.

 

[Ellard80]

i agree with a lot of Selassie's thinking....

However Young completely lost his shit over the kind of bullshit that happens all the time after the play. Guys getting pushed, chucked over piles, ect ect happens all the time. Sometimes they players dont give a shit... other times they get enraged - its so fucking random lol.

I knew why he was mad - but his level of berserk outrage was almost comical....

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

IMHO the taunting occurred after the flag on Young, as the Colts were taunting him about it.

IMHO the taunting was at least in part a "make up" call by the refs. Refs knew that the contact by Young was unintentional, and they also knew they completely missed whatever it was that got Young so pissed off in the first place.

So it ended up being one of those "offsetting penalties" deals, for the most part.

Eric Fisher is the one who taunted Kenny Young once he was ejected.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I’ve been a supporter of Young, but that reaction has lowered my opinion of him a little. That’s not a ‘We, not me’ way to react. It was totally selfish. Getting angry is fine, but control yourself around officials. It hurt the team.

 

[RamsOfCastamere]

But, but… he was already vaxed!

Haha its late. I have typos throughout that whole post lol.

 

[XXXIVwin]

I’ve been a supporter of Young, but that reaction has lowered my opinion of him a little. That’s not a ‘We, not me’ way to react. It was totally selfish. Getting angry is fine, but control yourself around officials. It hurt the team.

I dunno, I'm inclined to give him another chance. I thought it was kinda cool (and a little bit funny) that AD was the one right up in his facemask about it, trying to calm him down. I mean, AD is a superhero of course, but he has not been a model guy for keeping his cool. Remember AD's helmet toss? And the time AD picked someone out to keep fighting after the game was over?

My point is... getting sent off alone to the locker room has to be a pretty humiliating and memorable moment for Young. I bet he won't do something stupid like that again.

And yeah, I think AD has matured too, I bet he won't let his anger hurt the team... he knows how much is at stake.