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Psycho_X

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Ref. Floyd...yep something wrong with one of his ankles/feet not sure but he was far off his game Sunday Night & yes he was replaced late in the game.

I'm not sure but I believe I read early in the preseason time period that Floyd was out due to a lower leg issue for a good amount of time.

I saw Lewis on the field but had little to no contribution to any play. Justin Lawler came in for 6 plays for Floyd had more impact.
Yeah he did have an ankle injury. They never disclosed exactly what it was and he was back practicing a few weeks later but maybe it aggravated or isn't 100% yet. Something to keep an eye on.

This from August 18th.
Los Angeles Rams joint practices with the Las Vegas Raiders and EDGE Leonard Floyd suffers ankle injury. ... Unfortunately, Floyd left practice on Monday with an ankle injury. “It seems like it's good, but we want to get a little further evaluation on it,” head coach Sean McVay said of Floyd's ankle.
 

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Yeah he did have an ankle injury. They never disclosed exactly what it was and he was back practicing a few weeks later but maybe it aggravated or isn't 100% yet. Something to keep an eye on.

This from August 18th.
Los Angeles Rams joint practices with the Las Vegas Raiders and EDGE Leonard Floyd suffers ankle injury. ... Unfortunately, Floyd left practice on Monday with an ankle injury. “It seems like it's good, but we want to get a little further evaluation on it,” head coach Sean McVay said of Floyd's ankle.
Thanks, Psycho_X for providing some additional information on this subject. I watched Floyd a lot of the defensive snaps he was slow to react & just not his normal 2020 self from my point of view. Shame we need him to be what he was in 2020 not what he was as a Bear.

On the flip side if Terrell Lewis is able to put in another 10 to 15 snaps against the Colts & the very versatile Justin Hollins is more than capable of flipping to Floyd's post......then another positive is OLB'er Justin Lawler is one solid Edge player who does his job better than most realize. Then there is the pass-rushing specialist rookie Chris Garrett waiting to play in his first regular-season game!

So at this time if Floyd needs to rest that ankle in order to get him ready for the next up Buc's/Cards & Seahawks games it's not a bad time to deactivate him for the rest of this week & next! So he will be healed for those key matchups.
 

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Will be interesting to see how D shakes out. No snaps in preseason, I wouldn't think we'll see how tackling will actually look till game 4. If Young ascends, it may help make up for the loss of JJ. Rapp may end up playing pretty well but JJ was a stud and I think it will impact the defense. Not having Brockers will hurt too.
 

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I think that was Robinson's final season as head coach. Brought in a then-very-young Jeff Fisher as the Defensive Coordinator and he went to a 4-3, with Greene at DE. As you mentioned, it did NOT work.

Knox came back as HC and stayed with the 4-3 but Greene returned to OLB and had double-digit sacks.
Greene then left as a free agent.
You got a better memory than me. But you get my point?
 

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You got a better memory than me. But you get my point?
Only on the most important things, like Rams’ history.

Memory is not so good with anniversaries and birthdays.

Do get and agree with your point.

Now, if I can just remember where I live.
 

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Ref. Floyd...yep something wrong with one of his ankles/feet not sure but he was far off his game Sunday Night & yes he was replaced late in the game.

I'm not sure but I believe I read early in the preseason time period that Floyd was out due to a lower leg issue for a good amount of time.

I saw Lewis on the field but had little to no contribution to any play. Justin Lawler came in for 6 plays for Floyd had more impact.
Agree- but don’t forget about T.Lewis either. He is a man child.His ability is off the chart.He still has to find his comfort zone though.I don’t know if Raheem is asking him to much?
 

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He also talked about your guy David Long.
RR31 is going to be a solid CB.one game one pick.
Can't join you & McVay here with your David Long Jr party.

Now if you want to talk about what will be a solid outside Corner in order to permit Jalen Ramsey to STAR .....then I am more than willing for you to join me with a Robert Rochell party instead.:clinkingbeer::party2::part::party:

I have rewatched the Bear game several times now & yes observing your anointed "going to be solid corner" Long & found him lacking still as an outside corner. I do not see him being effective as you & McVay.

Now D-Long can be the Nickle-Back & survive without being benched but DC Morris needs a very good outside corner much more to team with D-Williams on the opposite side. Bob Rochell is the bigger talent & has all the skills to be what Morris needs.
 

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I disagree on floyd. Staley put him better position to succeed. At least compared to this one game. I think mostly. Any disappointment lies with the DC. Way to passive.
I remember when Chuck Knox came back to coach the second time. We had been a 34 D and Kevin Green was a monster. Knox changed to 43 and put green as a DE hand in the ground and completely negated greens pass rush ability. So we gave him away.
This is not the same level of stupid and could be temporary, but it is obvious to me that floyd could be utilized better and is not the problem.
I mean the guy did nothing for 3 years playing next to Khalil Mack and Akiem Hicks. Yes Staley put him in a good spot last year, but it was all the double and triple teams sliding to AD that provided the main opportunity. Hes just not a pure pass rusher. He cant consistently win 1-on-1. And for him to be getting paid a new $64M contract is just ludicrous to me. I don't think hes a bad player, he's just average IMO, and not worthy of the $.

We need people who can rush the passer. Obo and T Lewis are question marks and below average NFL players. Hollins was a cut by Denver and waiver wire pickup that is now starting and outplayed Floyd week 1. We need more talent at LB, to me its so obvious watching this team. Which is why the Tutu and Earnest Jones picks made zero sense given our OLB need. 5th ILB and 5th WR over pass rusher depth?? So dumb.
 

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I mean the guy did nothing for 3 years playing next to Khalil Mack and Akiem Hicks. Yes Staley put him in a good spot last year, but it was all the double and triple teams sliding to AD that provided the main opportunity. Hes just not a pure pass rusher. He cant consistently win 1-on-1. And for him to be getting paid a new $64M contract is just ludicrous to me. I don't think hes a bad player, he's just average IMO, and not worthy of the $.

We need people who can rush the passer. Obo and T Lewis are question marks and below average NFL players. Hollins was a cut by Denver and waiver wire pickup that is now starting and outplayed Floyd week 1. We need more talent at LB, to me its so obvious watching this team. Which is why the Tutu and Earnest Jones picks made zero sense given our OLB need. 5th ILB and 5th WR over pass rusher depth?? So dumb.
Floyd is an all around type LB. Pass rush is not the only thing we need. He holds the edge better than most. Remember that play against Murry keeping from getting outside then tackling him for a loss. He Plays the run well and can get sacks. He wouldn't be worth it if all he did was go straight for the QB and ignored the run. When he was with the Bears they limited his sack chances. While Mac was getting sacks he was covering TE and RB and holding the edge. Someone always has to have the back of a pass rusher cause they leave holes. You don't always no what his assignment is. All Hollins did was clean up after AD as well. And don't forget Floyd is having an ankle issue. I disagree with your evaluation of him.
 

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Floyd is an all around type LB. Pass rush is not the only thing we need. He holds the edge better than most. Remember that play against Murry keeping from getting outside then tackling him for a loss. He Plays the run well and can get sacks. He wouldn't be worth it if all he did was go straight for the QB and ignored the run. When he was with the Bears they limited his sack chances. While Mac was getting sacks he was covering TE and RB and holding the edge. Someone always has to have the back of a pass rusher cause they leave holes. You don't always no what his assignment is. All Hollins did was clean up after AD as well. And don't forget Floyd is having an ankle issue. I disagree with your evaluation of him.
You can disagree all you want man, you're entitled to your opinion but please look at his film...look at his production. He's not an elite OLB but is being paid as one. His cap hit is $20M next year. $20M!! Not worth that amount of money at all sorry. Elite OLBs play the run and rush the passer. He cant do both. You act like every single play he's dropping into coverage or not being asked to rush the passer. That's insane. In known passing situations, when HE IS pass rushing for sure, he doesn't win enough. It's really that simple. Not enough for a $~20M cap hit. He had zero pressures against the bears and their backup RT. And he also didn't hold the edge against Fields when he ran for the TD.

You want to know who the other OLBs and DEs in his pay range are?? Trey Flowers, Shaquil Barrett, Za'Darius Smith, Chandler Jones, Bud Dupree, Matt Judon, Frank Clark, Cameron Jordan, Dee Ford, JJ Watt. Floyd is paid more than half these guys too.

The stats tell the same story. This guy was the 9th pick of the draft man, we need to have some standards of excellence with our OLBs.

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i'm a little dissapointed in floyd...

probably the contract/ production...

but still, only one game so....

i'll leave it at that...

go rams

slo
 

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You can disagree all you want man, you're entitled to your opinion but please look at his film...look at his production. He's not an elite OLB but is being paid as one. His cap hit is $20M next year. $20M!! Not worth that amount of money at all sorry. Elite OLBs play the run and rush the passer. He cant do both. You act like every single play he's dropping into coverage or not being asked to rush the passer. That's insane. In known passing situations, when HE IS pass rushing for sure, he doesn't win enough. It's really that simple. Not enough for a $~20M cap hit. He had zero pressures against the bears and their backup RT. And he also didn't hold the edge against Fields when he ran for the TD.

You want to know who the other OLBs and DEs in his pay range are?? Trey Flowers, Shaquil Barrett, Za'Darius Smith, Chandler Jones, Bud Dupree, Matt Judon, Frank Clark, Cameron Jordan, Dee Ford, JJ Watt. Floyd is paid more than half these guys too.

The stats tell the same story. This guy was the 9th pick of the draft man, we need to have some standards of excellence with our OLBs.

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Who cares about the money?

Floyd was a key player and physical presence on the edge for the best defense in the league last year. Rams couldn’t replace him cheaper and so resigned him.

Stan was willing to write the check because Floyd helps give us a chance for a title.
 

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Who cares about the money?
I'm one who loved the way Floyd played the run last year and kept contain with all the mobile QBs. It was a welcomed sight. But I do agree he needs to make more of an impact in pass rush. But the money definitely does matter. Its why Goff is no longer in LA. Its the cost/production ratio.
 

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You can disagree all you want man, you're entitled to your opinion but please look at his film...look at his production. He's not an elite OLB but is being paid as one. His cap hit is $20M next year. $20M!! Not worth that amount of money at all sorry. Elite OLBs play the run and rush the passer. He cant do both. You act like every single play he's dropping into coverage or not being asked to rush the passer. That's insane. In known passing situations, when HE IS pass rushing for sure, he doesn't win enough. It's really that simple. Not enough for a $~20M cap hit. He had zero pressures against the bears and their backup RT. And he also didn't hold the edge against Fields when he ran for the TD.

You want to know who the other OLBs and DEs in his pay range are?? Trey Flowers, Shaquil Barrett, Za'Darius Smith, Chandler Jones, Bud Dupree, Matt Judon, Frank Clark, Cameron Jordan, Dee Ford, JJ Watt. Floyd is paid more than half these guys too.

The stats tell the same story. This guy was the 9th pick of the draft man, we need to have some standards of excellence with our OLBs.

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I couldn't care less about his bulk stats from the Bears. Floyd was a stud last year and a big part of what allowed us to be the no. 1 defense. We needed to re-sign him and that was the market price. If we didn't pay it, someone else would have.
 

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IMO the Edge rush will shake out in the next 3-4 weeks. I’m more concerned with our soft middle on defense but need to be patient to see if it can also shake out.
 

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You can disagree all you want man, you're entitled to your opinion but please look at his film...look at his production. He's not an elite OLB but is being paid as one. His cap hit is $20M next year. $20M!! Not worth that amount of money at all sorry. Elite OLBs play the run and rush the passer. He cant do both. You act like every single play he's dropping into coverage or not being asked to rush the passer. That's insane. In known passing situations, when HE IS pass rushing for sure, he doesn't win enough. It's really that simple. Not enough for a $~20M cap hit. He had zero pressures against the bears and their backup RT. And he also didn't hold the edge against Fields when he ran for the TD.

You want to know who the other OLBs and DEs in his pay range are?? Trey Flowers, Shaquil Barrett, Za'Darius Smith, Chandler Jones, Bud Dupree, Matt Judon, Frank Clark, Cameron Jordan, Dee Ford, JJ Watt. Floyd is paid more than half these guys too.

The stats tell the same story. This guy was the 9th pick of the draft man, we need to have some standards of excellence with our OLBs.

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I guess most of us saw a different Floyd than you did last year. I'm not going to dog him for one game with likely a bad wheel and a new DC.

We paid the going rate for a player of his caliber. You bring up a bunch of other players but they have pretty much all had their ups and downs as well. Most of them also are not as complete of a player.

I don't share your consternation.