Lol regular season, I was only comparing what I saw from them in preseason cause that's only extended time Mannion had but let's talk about regular season.
You said he consistently got balls into tight windows what do you mean about consistently because there was only about 4 or 5 throws Goff made all year that I would say he threw it in a tight window. You talk about mental errors and it being easier to fix the mental part of a QB, I completely disagree on that, it's easier to work with a QB lack of arm strength or running ability when he knows where to go with the ball and when. When he recognize coverage schemes and blitzes and can identify his hot read.
Last year the only QB I saw do that on this team was Mannion even if it was in the preseason. Goff is so far behind the curb mentally that for all of his supposed talent he looked like a bum out there.
Yeah Goff can take a hit, but how many unnecessary hits did he take how many unnecessary sacks did he take. You said that Mannion balls are to high, but that's all I saw from Goff he throw high and out of bounds even without pressure around him.
We wanna blame the talent around Goff but why did we bench Keemun he actually won games for us. He was playing with the same support cast why didn't he get that it's the people around him excuse.
I'm not saying Goff can't turn it around but acting like the guy is criticism proof is laughable because numbers don't lie and his numbers are laughable
Why wouldn't we talk about regular season? That's when it counts, when things harder. I saw Goff throw a lot of very good balls in the regular season, some of them were caught some of them were dropped, but the ball placement and throw from Goff was good. A lot of his interceptions were receivers totally letting him down, popping the ball up and things to that nature, so even though the throw was great, Goff's stats would take a hit due to receivers. That's not some controversial statement, a lot of analysts have said the same thing.
Learning coverage and how to read defense is always easier to coach up than it is to teach physical skills. That doesn't mean that everyone will become a genius and read defenses like Peyton Manning, but it's easier than trying to change someones throwing motion. That's why QB's like Tebow failed, the physical talent wasn't there, and when it came down to games he would revert to his old terrible physical traits instead of the ones that he was being taught. Having some of the hardest things to teach down already, namely a good throwing motion and release as well as good foot movement, Goff has the hardest things learned. When the play breaks down in front of him he doesn't revert to ugly fundamentals, which makes it easier for the defense.
We weren't winning games because of Keenum, we were winning games despite of him, and the defense completely collapsed after he was pulled for Goff because they had been overworked in the first half of the season.
Nobody said that Goff isn't criticism proof, but the idea that Mannion is ahead of him in development or even all that close just isn't correct. Goff has the far superior arm talent, and physical traits, the only thing that Mannion had was a better understanding of the playbook and the speed of the game. Goff now understands the speed of the game better than Mannion, and they both got a new playbook, so Goff may have that down more now as well.
Lmao so we wanna hold Mannion accountable for 1 play when the guy had all of 7 snaps but say stuff like Goff didn't have any help. How many pic 6s did Goff throw how many fumbles did he lose. Lol double standards all day
The pick that Mannion threw is a great example of his limitations, his release allows the defender to jump the route, if he's supposed to be that much better at the mental game, then he shouldn't have thrown it, he stares down the receiver the entire time and then throws it without a lot of zip when there were better options out there. Now I'll give him a break because he's still a young QB, and that takes experience, but it takes away a lot of the strengths he's said to have.
