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I love how y'all think one player will take you over the hump when Goff is still your biggest problem.
Nah. Our biggest problem is now currently hunting and fishing in Montana somewhere collecting a fat paycheck.
Prescott is a stud and McFadden is great for 4 games a year and you'll only need him for that....
 

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Like I've said. You'd mad upset if it were Gurley, but OK. Also, I apologize in advance for the October 1st. Take this L now.


Can I get your tickets for that game... I have been going back and forth about flying out for that one. Getting your tickets might be my decision maker.

I'm serious.

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https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/11/ezekiel-elliott-suspension-cowboys-domestic-violence

Ezekiel Elliott Suspension: What It Means
Dallas’s star second-year back will sit for the first six games of 2017 on a domestic violence suspension. The messages are clear: The league is getting tougher on domestic violence, and Elliott needs to change his ways
ALBERT BREER

NEW YORK — The league and Cowboys don’t agree on much when it comes to the investigation into the allegations of domestic violence against Ezekiel Elliott.

But they can come together here—Elliott needs a wake-up call. And both can hope that the six-game suspension the NFL handed down on Friday provides that for him.

After mishandling the Ray Rice and Josh Brown situations, the league is more apt now than ever to issue strong discipline in cases of domestic violence. The NFL realized it needed to be tougher on players and others under its purview, and more thorough in its investigations even when there is no conviction or even charges from the legal system.

The two domestic violence allegations against Elliott, both lodged by the same woman, occurred in February and July of 2016, the first in Florida and the second in Columbus after Elliott was drafted in the first round by the Cowboys. In each case, police did not charge him, citing insufficient evidence and conflicting accounts.

However, the league said that in the course of its investigation it found “substantial and persuasive evidence supporting a finding that [Elliott] engaged in physical violence” against the victim “on multiple occasions during the week of July 16, 2016.” Elliott has three days to appeal the decision.

This was a case in which league officials weren’t going to rush a decision and risk new information coming to light, or risk Elliott making them look bad again. Indeed, while the NFL conducted its investigation, two other incidents occurred. On March 13 of this year, video emerged of Elliott pulling a woman’s top down at a St. Patrick’s Day parade in Dallas.

Four months later, on July 17, Elliott was connected to a late-night bar fight (an investigation by Dallas police was suspended). The league said it considered the St. Patrick’s Day incident, and though it didn’t warrant separate discipline, it suggested “a pattern of poor judgment and behavior for which effective intervention is necessary for your personal and professional welfare.”

Add all this to Elliott’s reputation coming out of Ohio State two springs ago, and a more vivid picture comes clear. Both he and Buckeyes teammate Joey Bosa drew concerns from teams in the run-up to the 2016 draft over their partying. Bosa was suspended for a game at the start of Ohio State’s 2015 season and told clubs he moved out of an apartment he shared with Elliott after that because he knew what was on the line.

Elliott, meanwhile, soaked in the stardom that came with being the bell cow of the reigning national champions during his final season in Columbus. “Joey got suspended, and he loved football too much, he had to get away from it,” said one area scout assigned to Ohio State.

“[Elliott] was smart enough to keep [out of trouble], but he loved the party scene. And by the time 2015 rolled around, he was doing it in downtown Columbus more, not with the college kids. You just knew, ‘This guy gets after it.’ ”

For that reason, the scout said, it was clear there’d be challenges for a player who loves the trappings of stardom and the fame that comes with being a Cowboy in North Texas.

The flip side? Elliott’s always been able to produce on the field. During that 2015 season, after his star turn, Elliott rushed for 1,823 yards and 23 touchdowns for the 12-1 Buckeyes. Last year he showed up to Cowboys camp overweight, at 231 pounds, and still won the NFL rushing title as a rookie for a 13-3 Cowboys team.

That should explain why, as the same rumors that dogged him in Columbus have followed him in Dallas, there may not have been a lot of motivation on his part to change.

If you listen to what Jerry Jones has said the last few weeks, it’s clear that the Cowboys aren’t going to be pleased with the NFL’s decision on this one. But if there’s a silver lining for them, it’s that Elliott may finally become motivated to manage his off-field life in the way so many big, burgeoning NFL stars do.

Suffice it to say, with Elliott becoming one of the faces of one of the league’s biggest teams, the NFL must hope he gets the message, too.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/11/ezekiel-elliott-suspension-appeal-legal-process

What to Know About Ezekiel Elliott's Suspension, His Appeal and a Potential Lawsuit
Ezekiel Elliott has appeal options after being suspended six games by the NFL for alleged domestic violence, but the Cowboys' star running back faces an uphill legal battle against the league and Roger Goodell.
MICHAEL MCCANN

The NFL’s suspension of Dallas Cowboys star Ezekiel Elliott for alleged domestic violence could soon become a legal controversy. The 22-year-old running back intends to appeal the six-game suspension, which the league issued on Friday and is scheduled to go into effect on Sept. 2.

If the league doesn’t vacate or reduce the suspension to Elliott’s satisfaction, he could then file a lawsuit. For his part, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones might also weigh legal action against both the NFL and commissioner Roger Goodell. These possibilities no doubt sound intriguing. However, as explained below, they would face extremely long odds.

Understanding Elliott’s suspension as a workplace punishment

Elliott’s suspension reflects Goodell’s conclusion that the recipient of the Pro Football Weekly/Pro Football Writers of America 2016 Rookie of the Year Award engaged in conduct that violated the NFL’s Personal Conduct Policy. The alleged conduct centers on allegations made by Elliott’s former girlfriend, Tiffany Thompson. Thompson contends that Elliott committed multiple acts of violence against her during the week of July 16, 2016.

The alleged acts, which included repeated hits, occurred in Columbus, Ohio, and a few months after the Cowboys had drafted Elliott with the No. 4 pick in the 2016 NFL draft out of Ohio State. Thompson has made other accusations against Elliott concerning alleged conduct that took place prior to Elliott becoming an NFL player. The NFL’s statement announcing Elliott’s suspension did not opine on those earlier allegations.

Elliott has not been charged with a crime related to any of Thompson’s allegations. This means that law enforcement has presumably not (yet) found probable cause to arrest him. Further, Elliott’s representatives insist that Thompson has lied and exaggerated. Those representatives assert that Thompson’s claims are contradicted by both affidavits and physical evidence. For example, they contend that Thompson’s injuries are attributable to a bar fight involving Thompson.

The fact that Elliott has not been charged with a crime does not immunize him from NFL discipline. In fact, it has no bearing.

The relevant legal test for whether the NFL can discipline Elliott is whether the discipline complies with the collective bargaining agreement signed by the NFL and Elliott’s union, the NFLPA. As in other management-labor relationships, the CBA for NFL players dictates when, and under which circumstances, the league and teams can fine, suspend or expel.

The applicable provision of the CBA is Article 46, which instructs that the commissioner can punish a player who engages in “conduct detrimental to the integrity of, or public confidence in, the game of professional football.” The appropriate meanings of the phrases, “conduct detrimental,” “integrity of” and “public confidence” are all determinable by the commissioner on a case-by-case basis.

“Conduct detrimental” can thus apply to very different kinds of player controversies. This is true when they concern genuinely serious allegations of domestic violence or when they involve far less important allegations of equipment tampering.

Although perhaps only 1% or 2% of NFL players ever encounter Article 46, it has nonetheless attracted significant scrutiny in recent years. This is due mainly to the NFL’s controversial disciplining of Tom Brady and Adrian Peterson.

Those two players filed federal lawsuits against the NFL. Both lawsuits failed for the same basic reason: Article 46 empowers Goodell to find facts, issue punishments and hear appeals as an arbitrator. Further, even if Goodell is flat out wrong about his conclusions, a court will not disturb those conclusions.

In 2014, the NFL attempted to improve consistency in how Article 46 is applied to domestic violence matters. At that time, NFL owners agreed to a domestic violence policy that ensured experts would review allegations and that a first-time punishment for domestic violence would be six games. The prior lack of consistency was apparent in the NFL’s mishandling of the Ray Rice matter.

Rice, in fact, ultimately prevailed over the NFL in a hearing before former U.S. District Judge Barbara Jones. Despite the NFL adopting a new domestic violence policy in 2014, the league subsequently punished New York Giants kicker Josh Brown—who by his own admission abused his wife—for only one game in 2016.

In regards to Elliott, the NFL employed a panel of four experts: former New Jersey Attorney General Peter Harvey, Hall of Fame member Ken Houston, The Women of Color Network CEO Tonya Lovelace and former U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White.

According to the NFL, they reviewed medical records, electronic communications and other relevant evidence. To be sure, this is an accomplished group with legitimate expertise. Its recommendation to Goodell on Elliott elevates the credibility of Goodell’s decision.

Before Elliott can file a lawsuit with a plausible chance for success, he must first exhaust the administrative remedies provided by the CBA. If he files before that time, a court would likely dismiss the lawsuit as not yet “ripe,” meaning not ready yet for judicial review.

Elliott has one such administrative remedy under the CBA: appeal the suspension back to Goodell in accordance with Article 46. The hearing would likely involve experts, though the ultimate decision-making authority would rest with the hearing officer (also known as the arbitrator, who would be Goodell or a designate of Goodell’s choosing).

Elliott has three business days to appeal and it is expected that he will do so. After an appeal is filed the NFL would then hold a hearing within 10 business days. Elliott’s suspension is currently scheduled to begin on Sept. 2, the day of final roster reductions. Until then he can continue to practice with the Cowboys and play in preseason games.

Assuming Elliott’s appeal fails, he would have the option of filing a lawsuit in federal court. The lawsuit would likely resemble those filed by Brady and Peterson. This means it would demand that a federal judge vacate the arbitration award. In this context, “award” wouldn’t be a positive word for Elliott. It would refer to Goodell’s decision as an arbitrator (as opposed to Goodell’s decision as commissioner) to uphold the six-game suspension or to reduce it but not to Elliott’s satisfaction.

In a lawsuit, Elliott would be joined by the NFLPA. He would assert that Goodell and his four experts committed grave procedural mistakes in evaluating the allegations and that, accordingly, they reached an arbitrary and capricious conclusion. A federal court reviewing a petition to vacate the arbitration award would focus on procedure, not on facts.

Put another way, a federal judge would not conduct a trial on whether Elliott is innocent or guilty of Thompson’s allegations. The judge would instead evaluate the accuracy and credibility of the processes used by the NFL in assessing allegations and whether those processes comported with Article 46.

Therein lies the fundamental problem for Elliott: as a procedural instrument, Article 46 is stacked in favor of the NFL. Article 46 accords Goodell with wide discretion in evaluating evidence. In Brady’s case, Goodell’s conclusions about football air pressure were sharply criticized as flawed—some scientists even described them as implausible—and yet under Article 46, Goodell can be wrong about the facts but nonetheless comply with the law. Also, the fact that Goodell retained a panel of experts to review allegations against Elliott only strengthens the legitimacy of Goodell’s reasoning.

If Elliott’s appeal fails, expect “forum shopping” by both the NFL and Elliott

In the immediate aftermath of Goodell’s July 2015 decision to uphold Brady’s four-game suspension, the NFL rushed to file a lawsuit against Brady in the U.S District Court for the Southern District of New York.

The filing, which asked for a federal judge to help to ensure that Brady would comply with a four-game suspension, caught everyone by surprise. At the same time, it made a good deal of sense. The league wanted to sue Brady in a favorable court before Brady sued the NFL in a court more favorable to him.

The NFL believed that the New York federal court would be a relatively favorable forum. It reached this assessment in light of the league’s success before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, which governs New York federal courts. This was especially apparent in the NFL’s victory over Maurice Clarett’s age eligibility lawsuit in 2004 (as a disclosure I was a member of Clarett’s legal team).

Brady, meanwhile, rushed to file in the U.S. District Court for the District of Minnesota, where Judge David Doty presides. Judge Doty has ruled against the NFL on several occasions. Brady hoped that Judge Doty would be assigned as the judge (he wasn’t—Judge Richard Kyle was assigned instead).

Because the NFL knew when Goodell’s decision would be announced the league enjoyed a key tactical advantage in terms of timing. The NFL used it to beat Brady to court. Since the party that files first usually prevails on where a legal dispute is tried, it came as no surprise that the case was heard in New York. Although Brady prevailed before U.S. District Judge Richard Berman, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit later held against Brady on appeal.

What does all this mean for Elliott?

For one, Elliott should be prepared for the NFL to file a lawsuit in the Southern District of New York immediately after a decision on his appeal is announced. The NFL has excellent precedent there with the Second Circuit’s decision in Brady’s case.

For another, Elliott should try to identify a federal district that might prove more favorable and that is arguably more relevant than the Southern District of New York. Perhaps Elliott would sue in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Ohio since some of the allegations concern events that took place there.

Or he might sue in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas since he is employed in Dallas. Another option: the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia since the NFLPA is headquartered there.

The one federal court Elliott that wants to avoid: the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York. Unfortunately for Elliott, he might not be able to avoid it.

Timing is also relevant in this analysis. The Cowboys’ first regular season game will be played on September 10. This leaves Elliott slightly less than one month to try to eradicate the pending suspension before it precludes him from playing in an actual game.

If Elliott’s potential case hasn’t been resolved in court before September 10, he would likely then petition a judge to issue a preliminary injunction or a temporary restraining order. If such a remedy were granted, it would essentially suspend the six-game suspension until Elliott has his day in court.

Inunctions are considered extraordinary remedies and petitions for them are usually rejected. Among other points, Elliott would need to convince a judge that he would suffer irreparable harm if he misses any games.

Elliott would emphasize that he would never be able to get those games back. In response, the NFL would stress that Elliott could be reimbursed for lost wages plus interest if he later prevailed in court. As an advantage for the NFL, courts are often skeptical that a particular harm is “irreparable” if money damages can later repair it.

Elliott could also file a lawsuit in a Texas state court and hope that he would receive a more favorable forum there. After all, Texas judges are elected. Plus, Elliott could argue that the NFL has defamed him.

There are numerous obstacles with a plan for Elliott to sue in state court. One is that a defamation lawsuit is especially difficult for a public figure, who must prove “actual malice.” In this case, Elliott would need to prove that the allegations against him were false and that the NFL knew they were false.

Another hurdle is that a lawsuit could bring to light unsavory evidence about the assault allegations. Such evidence could damage Elliott’s reputation and credibility, not to mention attract the notice of law enforcement. Still another hurdle is that Elliott’s case would concern issues of federal law, including federal labor law. The NFL would seek to remove the case to federal court and would probably succeed in doing so.

Could Jerry Jones sue the NFL or Goodell?

The short answer to this question is yes, Jerry Jones could sue. But being able to sue is not an especially high bar. The more relevant question is whether Jones would likely prevail in such a lawsuit. The answer is he would not.

Jones is no stranger to taking on the NFL in court. In 1995, NFL Properties—the NFL’s licensing arm—sued Jones for $300 million and he countersued for $700 million. Their billion-dollar dispute centered on whether Jones could negotiate licensing deals that directly conflicted with those of the NFL.

For instance, Jones negotiated a deal for Pepsi to sponsor Texas Stadium at the same time Coca-Cola was the official soft drink of the NFL. Ultimately the two sides settled, but the larger point is that Jones didn’t back down from a fight with his own league.

Here, Jones would likely face much more resistance in court.

First, Elliott’s punishment falls under the purview of the CBA, which is an agreement between players and the league. Jones may thus lack standing to bring a lawsuit that challenges a player suspension. This is a crucial difference from Jones’s licensing lawsuit with the NFL as it dealt with owner-league issues.

This difference also distinguishes Jones’s situation from that of New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft during Deflategate: while the Cowboys weren’t punished for Elliott’s alleged misconduct, the Patriots were punished as a franchise for the alleged misconduct of Brady and other Patriots employees. At least in theory, Kraft had standing to sue.

Second, the NFL Constitution—which all owners accept as a condition of owning an NFL franchise—makes clear that Goodell has final and conclusive authority over all punishments. As a result, if Jones sued the NFL or Goodell, a court would likely dismiss the lawsuit on grounds that Jones contractually accepted the outcome—Elliott’s suspension—that would serve as the basis of his lawsuit.

This point also highlights a key explanation as to why Kraft declined to take on the NFL: a court would have been poised to dismiss it on grounds that Kraft contractually gave up his right to sue the league and its owners. The same logic would apply to Jones.

MMQB will keep you updated on legal developments involving Elliott and the NFL.

Michael McCann is SI’s legal analyst. He is also an attorney and the Associate Dean for Academic Affairs at the University of New Hampshire School of Law.
 

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If pulling boobs out was punishable....justin timberlake shoulda did some time.
Stepin into dangerous territory
Guilty until proven

And

Extortion is gonna be real...might as well pay hush mobey b4 going through this crap
Who says Zeke put the marks on her?

I only mentioned the boob thing because IMO it's proof of his lack of understanding of boundaries/time and place and he doesn't respect the fact that you don't do something like that to a woman in any environment. I'm not saying it's punishable, but it's clearly a character indicator.

In the bar fight, which was really a sucker punch, he hit a guy who was talking to a woman in his "group". That's also an indicator and also show lack of respect and a lack of understanding boundaries.

Remember Goodell DID NOT involve himself much, he had a panel of 4 people review the evidence, and there was a ton of it including lots of text messages, and they made the recommendation for the 6 game suspension.


Rice, in fact, ultimately prevailed over the NFL in a hearing before former U.S. District Judge Barbara Jones. Despite the NFL adopting a new domestic violence policy in 2014, the league subsequently punished New York Giants kicker Josh Brown—who by his own admission abused his wife—for only one game in 2016.

That was complete and total bullshit that Brown only got one game. He should have been thrown out of the NFL and the Giants should be embarrassed that at first they were doing nothing, and using the excuse that he didn't hit her was bullshit. So what he didn't punch her, grabbing her and throwing her down is the same thing. At least they came to there senses after a week.
 

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The importance of considering Ezekiel Elliott’s side of the story
Posted by Mike Florio on August 12, 2017

Domestic violence is illegal, abhorrent, and despicable. Those who commit it should be exposed, shamed, and incarcerated. But those accused of it should not be presumed to be guilty, especially if they were never arrested or charged.

When it comes to NFL internal investigations, the initial outcome also should not be presumed to be fair and accurate. It’s a degree of patience and caution that has become justified by bungled, ham-handed NFL investigations of recent years, from the Saints bounty scandal to the cap penalties imposed on Dallas and Washington to the Ray Rice debacle to #Deflategate.

All too often, the NFL (like many other large business organizations) selects a desired outcome in such situations and works backward to justify it.

Whatever anyone thinks of Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott, the NFL’s past handling of internal investigations should at a minimum prompt a willingness to keep an open mind, to listen what Elliott has to say, and to be willing to poke holes in the facts, findings, and logic applied by the league.

That attitude likely won’t earn me any friends at 345 Park Avenue (if I have any), but it’s a clear consequence of the manner in which the league has Machiavellied its way through other investigations, at times ignoring common sense and reason to make the square peg of P.R.-driven justice fit in the round hole of reality.

Here’s the first clue that maybe a healthy dose of skepticism is warranted before concluding that Elliott did what they now say he did (apart from, you know, the fact that he wasn’t arrested or charged): One of the four experts who participated in the Commissioner’s advisory panel for the Elliott case is Mary Jo White.

For Saints fans, that name has nearly the same connotation as Ted Wells does for Patriots fans. Five years ago, the NFL hired White to serve as a supposedly independent evaluator of disputed facts and evidence regarding the bounty scandal. At one point, she met with multiple reporters and reviewed what she decided was “overwhelming evidence” of Saintly guilt.

Here’s the piece of “overwhelming evidence” many regarded as a smoking gun, as explained at the time by Peter King: “The NFL Films-recorded quote from defensive lineman Anthony Hargrove, as first reported by SI in March, with Hargrove saying to defensive teammate Bobby McCray, ‘Give me my money,’ after Vitt told the team that Favre was out of the game with a leg injury. (Favre did return to the game without missing a play, but that wasn’t apparent when Hargrove made his declaration to McCray.)”

The problem with White’s insistence that Hargrove said “give me my money” is that careful, objective assessment of the video and audio leads to the fair conclusion that it’s inconclusive, at best, that Hargrove said the words.

After watching it over and over and over again, I personally became convinced that he didn’t. Making White’s claim even more problematic is that she defended the conclusion that Hargrove said “give me my money” by saying “you can see his lips moving.” The video did not support that interpretation, at all.

The league later retreated from the insistence that Hargrove said “give me my money,” but the zealous, and erroneous, effort by White to put words in Hargrove’s mouth raised real questions about the overall credibility of her work, since it created a fair impression that she was serving not as an independent evaluator of the evidence but as an advocate for the league’s preferred outcome.

While the bounty scandal had more fundamental flaws (including, as former Commissioner Paul Tagliabue explained in his ruling scrapping the player suspensions, an effort to change a widespread NFL cultural dynamic by catching one team and hammering it with discipline), the effort by White to sell the strength of the case by insisting Hargrove said something that he didn’t obviously say became, at least for me, a key moment.

Once I realized that Hargrove didn’t say “give me my money,” a little switch flipped in my typically limited brain. That was the moment where I decided that I wouldn’t just assume that whatever the league says in disciplinary matters is truthful and accurate.

Those statements and claims from the league may ultimately be truthful and accurate, but I resolved at that point to resist the urge to say, “Well, if Big Shield says it, it must be true” and to look critically and carefully at every nook and cranny of the proof in order to ensure that everything makes sense.

Now White is back on the scene, hired once again by the NFL to provide opinions, insights, and perhaps eventually explanations regarding the strength of the league’s evidence against Elliott.

Although there’s no reason to assume that there definitely will be a repeat of her inaccurate claims from 2012 (apart from the fact that she previously made an inaccurate claim in 2012), it’s a reminder that there are always two sides to the story, but that the league strongly prefers that its side be accepted as truthful and accurate, no matter what.

It will be harder to look at both sides of this case than it is in other cases. Elliott is accused of domestic violence; any effort to push back against the claims made against him will, at some point, feel like a failure to properly support the victims of domestic violence. Perhaps that makes it even more important for Elliott to receive a fair shake.

Also, it will be easy while trying to understand Elliott’s position on the situation to assume that the league is right by asking, “Why would the league want to make one of its brightest young stars look like a criminal, especially if he didn’t do it?” But that ship sailed two years ago, when the league tried to make one of the greatest players in the history of the sport look like a liar and a cheater, absent adequate proof that he lied or cheated.

The ultimate lesson from multiple botched investigations is this: The league does what it wants, when it wants, how it wants. It’s one of the spoils of being the dominant and most powerful sport in America. It also makes having a willingness to ask fair questions and, if need be, push back against questionable findings even more important.

Elliott has appeal rights, and legal rights beyond that. He has not yet presented any evidence in his own defense, but that clearly is coming. Before assuming that he’s guilty as charged, it’s important to consider all of the evidence fairly and objectively.
 

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I love how y'all think one player will take you over the hump when Goff is still your biggest problem.
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Your biggest problem, @Rynie might be 'ol Zeke's conditioning during this down time.
 

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Well, since there will be more Cowboys fans than Rams fans there, it won't happen. We own Socal.

Lol, typical Cowboys fan. They're not just in Socal, they're everywhere that way. America's team. Most popular/most valuable NFL franchise for no observable football-related reason. That's why Cowboys fans rarely know anything about football; they're just vapid widespread marketing victims. The Cowboys are the Justin Beibers of the NFL.
 

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...nsidering-ezekiel-elliotts-side-of-the-story/

Elliott has appeal rights, and legal rights beyond that. He has not yet presented any evidence in his own defense, but that clearly is coming. Before assuming that he’s guilty as charged, it’s important to consider all of the evidence fairly and objectively.

Of course; that was well stated. On the other hand I doubt the NFL would've come down on its pretty-boy flagship moneymaker franchise very hard if it didn't have fairly overwhelming evidence.
 

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Domestic violence is illegal, abhorrent, and despicable. Those who commit it should be exposed, shamed, and incarcerated. But those accused of it should not be presumed to be guilty, especially if they were never arrested or charged.

Not being arrested or charged has nothing to do with what did or didn't happen. This is Florio so I should expect this drivel.

When it comes to NFL internal investigations, the initial outcome also should not be presumed to be fair and accurate. It’s a degree of patience and caution that has become justified by bungled, ham-handed NFL investigations of recent years, from the Saints bounty scandal to the cap penalties imposed on Dallas and Washington to the Ray Rice debacle to #Deflategate.

The Saints bounty investigation was fine. We can quibble about the suspensions and fines, but the investigation was right now the money so Florio is flat out lying here.

As far as the penalties on the Redskins and Cowboys every other team had no problem complying.........so they got what they deserved.

Deflategate was an issue only because Brady wanted to take it to the hilt in order to get the NFL to break down. And the suspension was harsh because he destroyed evidence after being asked to hand over his phone.

What was a debacle about the Rice investigation? It was pretty standard stuff.

Florio is gaslighting. There is nothing to what he is claiming.

Here’s the first clue that maybe a healthy dose of skepticism is warranted before concluding that Elliott did what they now say he did (apart from, you know, the fact that he wasn’t arrested or charged): One of the four experts who participated in the Commissioner’s advisory panel for the Elliott case is Mary Jo White.

Oh so that changes everything LOL.

He has not yet presented any evidence in his own defense, but that clearly is coming. Before assuming that he’s guilty as charged, it’s important to consider all of the evidence fairly and objectively.

Well, he should have done that at the hearing where they decide whether or not he was going to be suspended. That would make sense right Florio?

Or maybe all the evidence was considered and he did it..........otherwise why would the NFL toss out the word "banishment" and tell the guy essentially this is for your won good so you will change your behavior.

Florio is among the worst of the worst.......supposition had no place here.
 

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Well, since there will be more Cowboys fans than Rams fans there, it won't happen. We own Socal.
Oh Reeeealy!!!

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Having a couple hundred people in Oxnard on your side doesn't give you Bragging right in Southern California!!
YOUR COW-PIE'S ARE GOIN' DOWN!!
 

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Truth is kind of harsh, yeah? I'd be ticked if a 4th round QB was twice as good as the #1 draft pick, too.
TALK ALL THE SH_T YOU WANT, we'll see if you have the never to show yourself here, and eat crow tomorrow! let alone, tonight after the game!
 

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Marshall Faulk: Ezekiel Elliott needs to understand magnitude of situation
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Hall of Fame running back Marshall Faulk says Dallas Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott "totally understands" that he needs to mature following Friday's announcement by the NFL that Elliott has been suspended for six games following a domestic violence investigation.

"Obviously, we all have to grow up in life and make mistakes, and sometimes some of those mistakes cost you dearly," Faulk said, according to the Dallas Morning News. "It's another thing of just understanding the magnitude of what's around you and how things are."

Elliott and Faulk spoke Saturday before the Cowboys' 13-10 preseason loss to the Los Angeles Rams in which the Dallas running back did not play. Faulk was in Los Angeles for his announcing duties with NFL Network.

They have known each other since Elliott's high school days. Faulk previously said he doesn't consider himself a mentor to Elliott but rather a friend. The Hall of Famer has said he wished he had someone to guide him at the start of his NFL career.

Faulk said Saturday that Elliott can be "in the wrong place at the wrong time."

"We're not talking about a kid who is dumbfounded and doesn't know," Faulk said. "It's not just about making the right decision, but when things start to go wrong, knowing when to walk away."

Elliott's father, Stacy, on Sunday told E:60 in a statement that he was "surprised and very disappointed with [the] NFL's decision and disagree with the league's findings."

"I am 100% confident that Ezekiel's legal team will be able to show the world that he never abused this young lady!" Stacy Elliott said in the statement. "Ezekiel was drafted by the Dallas Cowboys at 20 yrs old. So he isn't perfect. But I am confident he will continue to learn from his life experiences."

The NFL announced the suspension after a 13-month investigation into allegations that Elliott engaged in physical violence against a former girlfriend in July 2016. Elliott is expected to file his appeal of the NFL's ruling on Tuesday, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

Elliott made a statement via social media Friday but did not address reporters as he left the Coliseum with a member of the Cowboys' security team.

Information from ESPN's Todd Archer was used in this report.
 

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Report: Ezekiel Elliott filed harassment claim against Tiffany Thompson last year
Posted by Mike Florio on August 15, 2017

As Ezekiel Elliott‘s representatives prepare to formally appeal his suspension — and in turn to launch a P.R. campaign aimed at proving Elliott’s innocence — bits and pieces of their case have begun to trickle out.

On Monday, some inflammatory excerpts emerged from documentation suggesting that Elliott will claim that Tiffany Thompson targeted him with false claims after he tried to end their relationship. Now, the league’s own website is casting further doubt on Thompson’s credibility with a story regarding Elliott’s efforts to assert that Thompson at one point last year was violating his rights.

Via Ian Rapoport of NFL.com, Elliott filed a complaint with Frisco, Texas authorities on September 5, alleging harassment against Thompson. Elliott claimed that he received “50-plus” phone calls from Thompson in a span of less than seven hours, including multiple calls from a blocked number.

The incident occurred only two days before authorities in Columbus, Ohio announced that Elliott would not be charged with domestic violence in response to accusations made by Thompson.

Elliott also claimed that Thompson hacked into his email account, found phone numbers of other women that Elliott was “messing around with,” and called them.

None of this means that Elliott didn’t commit domestic violence, but it helps paint the full picture of the relationship. More about that relationship is destined to emerge once Elliott files his appeal, and if/when litigation ensues.
 

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Dude's gonna be a hit in prison some day.
 

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Why don't you take your foolishness to a cowgirls website? You've been tolerated, and treated well here for some time but you're really pushing boundaries now.
 

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Ezekiel Elliott files appeal of six-game suspension
Posted by Josh Alper on August 15, 2017

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There wasn’t much doubt about Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott‘s plans to appeal the six-game suspension he received from the league last week and now there’s none at all.

The NFLPA has announced that Elliott has officially filed his appeal with the league. Per the Collective Bargaining Agreement, appeals are to be scheduled, but not necessarily heard, within 10 days of the appeal being filed.

We’ve gotten some idea of where Elliott will push back against the suspension in recent days, including a harassment claim that Elliott made against the woman whose allegations of violence started the league investigation into Elliott’s conduct that resulted in his suspension. Elliott’s father has also indicated that the team will consider legal options beyond the appeal should they feel they are necessary.

The next step will be setting the date of the appeal hearing and naming an arbitrator to hear it. The latter decision will be a significant one for both sides in a matter that may just be getting underway as the start of the regular season gets closer.
 

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NFL report shows Tiffany Thompson suggested blackmailing Elliott over sex videos
Posted by Mike Florio on August 16, 2017

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The NFL won’t be releasing the 160-page investigative report generated in the Ezekiel Elliott case. And maybe we’re starting to see why.

Via Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports, the report contains a text-message exchange in which Thompson discusses with a friend the idea of selling sex tapes of herself and Elliott. At one point, the friend says, “[W]e could blackmail him w[ith] that.”

Says Thompson in response: “I want to bro.”

Thompson also admitted to registering an email address with the title “ezekielelliot sex vids.”

Here’s the full text exchange, from the NFL’s report as obtained by Robinson:

[Thompson]: What if I sold mine and Ezekiel’s sex videos

[Friend]: We’d all be millionaires

[Friend]: We could black mail him w that

[Thompson]: I want to bro

[Friend]: Let’s do it

[Thompson]: Scared

[Friend]: Sh-t

[Friend]: Id be like look give me 10k or I’ll just sell our sex videos for the same amount flat

[Friend]: Me and my friends tryna go on vacation and get boob jobs . . . .

[Thompson]: 10k Bitch I want 20k

[Thompson]: Go big or go home

[Friend]: That’s fine too

None of this means that Elliott didn’t commit domestic violence. But these kinds of schemes go directly to Thompson’s credibility. As PFT previously has explained, Commissioner Roger Goodell met in person with neither Elliott nor Thompson to assess their credibility before deciding that Elliott was guilty as charged.