Draft Order

[WestCoastRam]

I don't think Winston or Mariota are worth the 1st and 2nd pick in the draft. We'll see if any of the pundits agree with me in the spring.

1) We need a QB.
2) They're aren't any franchise QBs in this draft.
3) I hope the front office doesn't convince themselves otherwise because of necessity.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Who we trading up for? Trading from 10 to 2 will take an RGIII type deal. The Titans would be passing on a ton of top talent to move down to 10. At minimum we are trading a first this year and next and a second rounder this year. That gives us a third, fifth, and seventh to fix the line...good luck.

Fix the line through free agency and it wont matter. Then the only need would be a QB. But I prefer not to trade up. Stand pat and hope Clemmings or someone like that is there at ten.

 

[FRO]

Fix the line through free agency and it wont matter. Then the only need would be a QB. But I prefer not to trade up. Stand pat and hope Clemmings or someone like that is there at ten.

That hasn't gone well at all in the past. We got highly regarded guys in Bell, Brown, Wells, and Long. They all failed. Got to build through the draft.

 

[mr.stlouis]

I think we pick tenth overall. I don't really care who we get as long as they're studs that have character issues. Those always seem to work.

 

[swmizzou83]

DGB would be a good pick at 10

 

[Corbin]

DGB would be a good pick at 10

I love some DGB... I'm debating if he'll fall to the 2nd though?

and somebody please tell me what you think? I've heard Mettenberger was a stud and the Titans really like him but if come draft day if they do pick up a QB think they'd trade him? Or the raiders trade Carr for instance? Maybe use a 2-4 for em?

 

[TheBunk]

I don't think Winston or Mariota are worth the 1st and 2nd pick in the draft. We'll see if any of the pundits agree with me in the spring.

1) We need a QB.
2) They're aren't any franchise QBs in this draft.
3) I hope the front office doesn't convince themselves otherwise because of necessity.

We don't really need a franchise QB, that's the thing. A good one will do. Also, as always, once the process plays out there will be a few QB's that will shoot up the draft boards that I'm sure some of us will fall in love with or hate.

 

[blackbart]

Mariota would be the only guy I would consider giving next years 1st up for and I'm not sold on that. Winston I hope he stays in school and takes that possibility away, maybe he will look better next year? For whatever reason I just see trouble with him more Russel and less Newton.

If they both come out I don't see how the Bucs and Titans pass on them at 1 and 2.

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[Mackeyser]

It's just too early. Post season "all-star" bowls, senior bowls, etc as well as the Combine will tell us not only who is actually in the mix but where they are actually at. Plenty of guys have greatly elevated their draft stock by doing well in the post season games or all star games against the best individual competition.

 

[OC_Ram]

Moving up isn't the answer. Take what's dealt at #10 and seek your qb in the 2nd.

 

[moklerman]

We don't really need a franchise QB, that's the thing. A good one will do. Also, as always, once the process plays out there will be a few QB's that will shoot up the draft boards that I'm sure some of us will fall in love with or hate.

Which leads me back to the Cutler conversation. Unless some unforeseen QB drops in the draft, I think the best way to go is BPA at 10 or trade down to get some picks back and go after a legitimate veteran starter. FA, trade, whatever. I'd much rather spend resources on a guy that you know what we're going to get. Sure, Cutler isn't Peyton but if we know we can get a guy who will deliver an 85-90 rating and continue to build up the rest of the team, I'd much rather do that than overspend to get a crapshoot.

 

[WestCoastRam]

It's just too early. Post season "all-star" bowls, senior bowls, etc as well as the Combine will tell us not only who is actually in the mix but where they are actually at. Plenty of guys have greatly elevated their draft stock by doing well in the post season games or all star games against the best individual competition.

The argument on the other side is a player is who he is on tape and that "bowls" the combine are just there to confirm what you've seen on tape or make you evaluate it again in light of new information. I hear what you're saying but if we're talking about it being too early, I'll agree because I'm really waiting to hear what Juniors come out. Any draft board out now will be obliterated by that.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Which leads me back to the Cutler conversation. Unless some unforeseen QB drops in the draft, I think the best way to go is BPA at 10 or trade down to get some picks back and go after a legitimate veteran starter. FA, trade, whatever. I'd much rather spend resources on a guy that you know what we're going to get. Sure, Cutler isn't Peyton but if we know we can get a guy who will deliver an 85-90 rating and continue to build up the rest of the team, I'd much rather do that than overspend to get a crapshoot.

I hear you, I just can't think of a vet FA out there. And my worry about trading for Cutler is that we might be seeing a guy who's trending down. If we're looking for a game-manager type, he doesn't fit the proto-type. He's a gunslinger, for sure. I think he'd give you a better shot at scoring points but I think he'd turn the ball over too.

 

[Ramhusker]

I'm on the FIX THE OL bandwagon and I think you can do that standing pat in the draft or trading slightly down to garner a pick or two to use as trade up bait later in the draft. I'm thinking a trade down to around 15 and gaining a 2nd round pick would be nice. OT Erving from FSU should be available there and then take that 2nd round pick and trade back up a bit to get the C Dismukes or Grasu. Spend your 3rd rounder on a QB like Petty or trade down a bit maybe get QB Grayson in the 4th. Maybe we can get lucky and pick up a LB like Dawson from TCU in the 5th. Oh, it's full on draft speculation once again in RAMS World.

 

[blue4]

I don't think Winston or Mariota are worth the 1st and 2nd pick in the draft. We'll see if any of the pundits agree with me in the spring.

1) We need a QB.
2) They're aren't any franchise QBs in this draft.
3) I hope the front office doesn't convince themselves otherwise because of necessity.

I agree. People are overreacting to a need by building those top two guys into franchise QBs.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

That hasn't gone well at all in the past. We got highly regarded guys in Bell, Brown, Wells, and Long. They all failed. Got to build through the draft.

I prefer to build through the draft. But sometimes that doesn't work out either: Jones, Barron, Smith. If there is a guy like Wisneiwski that everyone knows is durable and a very good player the Rams should try to get him. That would give the Rams 3 good Oliners (If Greg Robinson pans out). Resign Barksdale and then the other guard could play between GRob and Wis. And Saffold could play next to Barksdale. Suddenly the entire line looks very good.

I brought it up on another thread. Barks next to Joseph was bad. Barks next to Saffold was very good. Having Joe next to Joseph all year may work in the Rams favor when it comes to suitors for his services.

 

[DaveFan'51]

Their faith in Sam is going to end up deciding their careers for better or worse.

Hell of a game of Russian Roulette they are going to play....again.

Pass the pistol my way, I'll join them!!

 

[moklerman]

I hear you, I just can't think of a vet FA out there. And my worry about trading for Cutler is that we might be seeing a guy who's trending down. If we're looking for a game-manager type, he doesn't fit the proto-type. He's a gunslinger, for sure. I think he'd give you a better shot at scoring points but I think he'd turn the ball over too.

Well, if it comes down to a choice between turning the ball over AND scoring points, I think that'd be an improvement over the current practice of turning the ball over without scoring many points.

It isn't ideal, but it'd be an improvement.

 

[LorenzoTheLimner]

Bucs will get a QB. I say the Jets don't go QB in the first. Geno had a good last game and showed his potential. Bears on Cutler is the same mindset as us with Bradford last draft. Titans maybe, but there is a good chance they stay with Mettenberger. Jags went #2 overall with Bortles. Depending on the Rosebowl Winston/Mariota could fall into our laps if we trade into the top-5

 

[Mackeyser]

The argument on the other side is a player is who he is on tape and that "bowls" the combine are just there to confirm what you've seen on tape or make you evaluate it again in light of new information. I hear what you're saying but if we're talking about it being too early, I'll agree because I'm really waiting to hear what Juniors come out. Any draft board out now will be obliterated by that.

Well, that's mostly what I meant. That and you'll get some small school guys who get the "who'd he play" label who shoot up draft boards because they do very well in those games or conversely guys who are exposed as system guys and fall. So, I wouldn't say that those post-season games have no value.

Aaron Donald is a great example. He had great film, but some folks questioned who he'd been up against. In the post season stuff, he still dominated and that really cemented his first round status. Small school OL that would normally be last day picks or UDFAs can really jump up into the second day with solid showings during that time. And it won't really change their tape.

What it does is give GMs applicable tape against guys who will be playing on Sunday. Plenty of guys going into the draft didn't get much chance to play against other NFL quality guys in their 1-on-1 matchups, so while their tape is valuable, it's not conclusive. This part also helps.

That's what I was getting at.

Plus...yeah. None of this really means much of anything until we even know who's declared. This draft will be RADICALLY different if Winston, Hundley and a few other QBs don't declare. Teams that are defensive hungry may make modest trades up and the 2nd round may be the QB round. I dunno. But yeah... we still need to know who's in before we can start calling "dibs"...LOL.