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Another Bradford Article!

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by wrstdude, May 27, 2014.

  1. ED_29 Well-Known Member

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    don't hurt yourself :whistle:
     
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  2. ED_29 Well-Known Member

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    true although he was not there when the Ravens made their 2011 run... should have beaten the Pats in the AFC Championship game but the WR dropped the winning td in the closing seconds thrown by Flacco
     
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  3. ED_29 Well-Known Member

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    What Flacco did in those playoff runs is impressive. What Eli did in both Giants SB Championships is impressive. Lets see Sam get the Rams to the playoffs before we make the comparison let along actually beat the Patriots, Broncos, Steelers, or Colts shall we? Can we just see that first?
     
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  4. FRO Well-Known Member

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    Funny how Flacco got bad without Bolden and Pitta and how Brady didn't post great numbers when Gronk was out. Almost makes me think supporting casts have a hand in QB production, but I watch ESPN so I know differently.
     
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  5. ED_29 Well-Known Member

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    No its not funny... its relevant. However, just don't assume that Bradford does what Flacco did ...thats all.

    Also Tom Brady passed for over 4,300+ yards and 25tds... throwing to 0 receivers. Remember the article Bernie wrote about Brady experiecing what Bradford experienced with his bad receivers? The problem with the analogy is that Brady was still very productive even without good WRs and without Gronk and Hernandez. He lead his team to a 12-4 record and the AFC Championship game.

    Just stop comparing Bradford to to QBs that have been difference makers and lead their teams to playoff victories and SB wins. When he does what they have done then great. I'm anxious to see it... but IMO it seems crazy to compare him to those QBs when he hasn't come close to their accomplishments.
     
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  6. Boffo97 Well-Known Member

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    I think using Bernie to prove one's point violates Godwin's Law now... ;)
     
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  7. ED_29 Well-Known Member

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    you might be right about that! :LOL:
     
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  8. LesBaker Mr. Savant

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    He didn't drop it, it was stripped. And some people, me among them, think it should have been a TD because the WR caught the ball, then came down with both feet. The play should have been over right there.
     
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  9. dieterbrock Well-Known Member

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    I may not be the biggest Bradford supporter here, but I wouldnt trade Bradford for Flacco straight up.
     
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  10. Thordaddy Binding you with ancient logic

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    I wouldn't either mainly though because I think the connection between what we want to do on offense and Bradford should be completely ingrained,I think this team is going to be basically what we did with Clemmons last year with Sams arm to reach the guys intermediate to deep that were there but Clemmons had to wind up and throw with all he had and still couldn't get it there. Sam stood on the sidelines all that time last year absorbing the potential that offense left on the field ,add in Tre Mason ,some better run blocking and it would be IMO a mistake to have anyone but Sam out there.
     
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  11. FRO Well-Known Member

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    With Gronk
    TD-13
    INT- 5
    Yards- 2,205
    Comp %- 64
    YPA-7.7

    Projected over 16 games
    TD- 30
    INT- 11
    Yards- 5,040

    Without Gronk
    TD- 12
    INT- 6
    Yards- 2138
    Comp%- 64
    YPA- 6.2

    Projected over 16 games
    TD- 21
    INT- 11
    Yards- 3,801

    This proves my point 100%. Bradford has his best supporting cast in 2013, was in the same offense back to back years, and his numbers were pretty good and he looked solid. That being said he support cast wasn't great. I would say average to below average. The only concern I have with Sam is injury history. Sam has talent, works hard, gets along with teammates. Once the support cast gets better, and it most certainly has, you will see more production. Even the elites struggle with bad support casts. We will see how Newton does this year.
     
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  12. Angry Ram aka Captain RAmerica aka the OG Rammer

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    How about the Rams let the Rams get into the playoffs. There were a myriad of problems that went beyond QB.

    Those teams you mentioned were complete. Had good defense and good offense plus health.
     
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  13. The Rammer ESPN Draft Guru

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    @jrry32 Please take care of this arguement over Bradford please
     
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  14. bwdenverram Well-Known Member

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    I'm not assuming anything. You are assuming because Joe Flacco had one good postseason (which I'm not arguing) that he is a better QB. But what I and others have said in this thread is that statistically Bradford has had equal #'s in the regular season and I don't think you would argue he has had less to work with?

    None of us know what Bradford would or wouldn't do if given the opportunity in the playoffs. But I have a feeling we're going to find out soon.
     
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    I never said you assumed I said the writer does that. Some of you get worked up into a tizzy over this stuff. I think the writer does a disservice to Flacco and Bradford for narrowly focussing on regular season stats and not the impressive playoff record and stats of Flacco in both 2011 and 2012.

    Period...when Sam shows he can do that then we say it not before. And I know this if Sam was Flacco and the. Rams were the Ravens not one of us would stand for the comparison without Flacco having put in that kind of work
     
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  16. nighttrain Well-Known Member

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    because it's a team game, and before last season we had a lousy OL & undependable receivers
    train
     
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  17. nighttrain Well-Known Member

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    agreed Thor, you got it
    train
     
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  18. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    A tizzy? lol.

    What would be the point of talking about Flacco's playoff achievements if the purpose of the article is to show that both Flacco and Bradford had nearly identical numbers during the regular 16-game season when you isolate them as QBs? Bradford doesn't have to play in a playoff game for the article to convey its points. It's not saying one is better than the other on the whole. It's just an article demonstrating that team strength, SOS, and other variables are helpful in even getting to the next level. Maybe you just took it too personal because it didn't say Bradford is a poor-man's Flacco? I dunno. But it seems you're making a mountain out of this particular mole-hill.
     
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  19. Merlin Ungulatory Prestidigitator

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    Personally I am really tired of hearing about Sam's potential, and all the BS surrounding the haters as well as the rabid Bradford underwear sniffers. Best thing about this upcoming season is we're going to know if Sam can get it done. If he struggles or cannot stay healthy, Fisher's steadfast support will wither quickly.

    So hopefully we'll see him kill it and get rewarded with a big contract. If not, he's just another guy who didn't live up to his potential in this league. No big story there, as there are more of them than there are those who do live up to their potential. In that event the Rams will be able to draft another QB who will be set up with an ideal situation to succeed.
     
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  20. bwdenverram Well-Known Member

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    I should probably state that at no point in this conversation was I in a tizzy. Probably comfortably on my couch having a normal everyday football conversation. I disagree with you.
    So happens I think it's happened at least 3,787 times in my life. You are just 3,786. So not to worry :rolleyes:
     
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