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A Lions Fan's Perspective

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by Iron Lion, Aug 14, 2012.

  1. Iron Lion

    Iron Lion Well-Known Member

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    We can only hope
  2. Iron Lion

    Iron Lion Well-Known Member

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    Ha! Good luck guys with Mr. Titus Young Sr!!
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    Memento Ser Memento (alias, The Winged Knight).

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    You can have him back, thank you very much.
  4. -X-

    -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    Lions fans after this year: "SEE!? I told you he'd tear up the league somewhere else! DAMMIT!"
  5. Iron Lion

    Iron Lion Well-Known Member

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    Thought you guys would like a brief list of Mr. Young Sr's sins:

    Rookie year:

    1.) Committed a personal foul at the goal line on national television; ultimately the Lions failed to get the TD and took the FG

    Second year:

    1.) Sucker punched a teammate during OTAs, was sent home for a week

    2.) Deliberately lined up in the wrong place in a 2:00 situation in an attempt to get the ball thrown to him; initially the confusion caused the Lions' RT to false start, and ultimately Stafford threw four consecutive incompletions, ending the game and essentially eliminating the Lions from playoff contention

    3.) After (2) Young Sr was suspended by the team for one game; upon returning, the coaches were not pleased with his attitude and so they sent him home again, and then put him on IR for an injury that he had been playing through since training camp

    4.) Young Sr discovers the Twitter universe...
  6. Thordaddy

    Thordaddy Binding you with ancient logic

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    Good and bad behavior are both products of habit. IMO but there are people you can not reach because they have an internal dialogue that contradicts all you say or do to straighten their attitude problems out .

    My guess is that Young will have noticeably better behavior habits by the start of training camp or he won't be with us .

    No other team put a bid in for him or so it has been reported He will undoubtedly be aware that he is likely at his last NFL stop and needs to reform his behavior.

    I'm not a four pillars guy to the extreme our last coach was, but the intentional stuff Young did IN GAMES is beyond my ability to forgive. I would have passed on him too, JMO but we aren't desperate for WR's ,or are we? Are we so doubtful of the guys we have now that THIS is what we NEED to do?
    Young gets a sideways thumb trending down from me.
  7. Stranger

    Stranger How big is infinity?

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    If TY is this bad then certainly one would think that there was evidence of this behavior in College. So, did Boise State have problems with this kid too, or was it just when he was in Detroit?
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    -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    I think he was a little "me first" at Boise State too. Nothing too terrible from what I'm reading so far though.
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    lasvegasrams Well-Known Member

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    so titus young and pettis were teammates? that certainly is a plus
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    Stranger How big is infinity?

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  11. Iron Lion

    Iron Lion Well-Known Member

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    So how does this work? Are the Rams stuck with Young Sr's contract if no one picks him up off waivers?
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    -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    Nope. They didn't assume his contract, so they don't have to pass it along either.
  13. Iron Lion

    Iron Lion Well-Known Member

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    I thought making a waiver claim = claiming the contract.
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    -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    The Lions have that burden now. After releasing him, they have $908,662 in dead money.
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    Iron Lion Well-Known Member

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    So then there is absolutely no downside to claiming someone off waivers?
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    -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    Well, not necessarily. Ordinarily the team that claims a player off of waivers assumes whats left on his contract, provided that team *signs* him. Since the Rams really only brought him in for a look-see, they didn't ink a deal and released him as well. His base salary of $550K gets picked up by whoever inks a deal with him. The Lions, in this case, still have to pay Titus his pro-rated signing bonus.

    If nobody else claims him, then he clears waivers and is a free agent, if I'm not mistaken.
  17. Iron Lion

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    But that's like calling dibs or something lol, you can't do that... there was never going to be a contract offered to him because he was already under his rookie contract from the Lions.
  18. -X-

    -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    Unless I'm mistaken (and someone can show me where), that's exactly what happened. Once released from the Rams, he goes back onto the waiver wire and someone else gets the opportunity (including those teams who would have otherwise missed out). If nobody does claim him, then he becomes a free agent and is free to negotiate with anyone on *his* terms. But since nobody appears willing to put a claim in, then it's unlikely he'll have the upper hand when all is said and done.

    That's why it's speculated that he'll likely never play again. You can get him now for a song (what he's due).
    Or. You can forget he ever existed and his contract disappears along with the memory of him.
  19. Iron Lion

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    I guess we'll see what happens.
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    -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    I reckon so.

    To be clear, he's due $550,000 in *base salary*.
    Whoever puts in a claim for him ONLY has to pay that if they sign him.
    The Rams elected not to sign him, so he has to go back through the waiver wire
    The LIONS are still on the hook for his signing bonus, and that can't be deferred.
    Nobody else has put in a claim (yet)
    His options are severely limited now.

    All that aside, what's your opinion of Young Titutron?