Will receiver market go the way of the running back market?

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Will receiver market go the way of the running back market?​

Multiple receivers have gotten paid this offseason. Multiple others are still waiting.

Last month, 35 more were drafted — including nine in the first 34 selections.

As more and more competent receivers enter the NFL via the low-cost rookie wage scale, it’s fair to wonder if/when more and more teams will decline to pay a receiver and look for a replacement instead in the draft.

Two years ago, three teams did it. The Titans traded A.J. Brown, the Packers traded receiver Davante Adams, the Chiefs traded Tyreek Hill. (Tennessee used the first-round pick it got for Brown on his replacement, Treylon Burks. The Packers opted for quantity, drafting Christian Watson, Romeo Doubs, and Samari Toure. And the Chiefs went with a low-cost committee approach that has helped deliver every Lombardi Trophy awarded since Hill was traded.)

Now, with Vikings receiver Justin Jefferson, 49ers receiver Brandon Aiyuk, Bengals receiver Tee Higgins, and Cowboys receiver CeeDee Lamb still clamoring for new contracts (all have stayed away from OTAs), the question becomes whether they’ll eventually end up with other teams, too. The Vikings already have Jordan Addison, who’s entering year two of his first-round rookie deal. The 49ers added Ricky Pearsall in the draft. The Bengals took Jermaine Burton. And the Cowboys, well, who knows what they’re doing?

There’s another side to this issue. In 2022, the Packers, Chiefs, and Titans found trade partners who were willing to give up significant trade compensation — and who were willing to pay the players a contract they wanted. Two years later, what if there’s no team(s) to make the Vikings and Jefferson or the 49ers and Aiyuk or the Bengals and Higgins or the Cowboys and Lamb happy?

If Aiyuk wants Amon-Ra St. Brown money, maybe that’s why no one traded for him during the draft. And even though the Vikings insist they aren’t considering trading Jefferson, at times it feels like they’re waiting for someone to make them an offer they won’t refuse. With Higgins, all signs point to the Bengals squatting on him for 2024 and then letting him walk. As to Lamb and the Cowboys, again, who knows what they’re doing?

The heart of the problem could be that teams are realizing that you don’t need to give receivers big money. That you can draft one who will be, dollar-for-dollar, a better deal.

That’s what has happened over the past 20 years at the running back position. Teams generally stopped paying big money because they could roll the dice in the draft, and then develop the player. While Burks hasn’t exactly filled Brown’s shoes in Nashville, Jefferson was a Day One star after the Vikings swapped him out for Stefon Diggs in 2020. And the Packers are currently regarded as having a great group of young receivers. And, again, the Chiefs have won every Super Bowl played since they traded Hill.

The problem for the Vikings, 49ers, Bengals and Cowboys is that the 2024 draft has come and gone. Unless there’s a player-for-player(s) swap to be done, trading the receivers now won’t help their former teams this season.

The bigger question is whether a trade will ever materialize. Why give up a first-round pick (or more) that could become a low-cost receiver for three or four years and likewise make a massive investment in a player whose shelf life falls closer to tailback than quarterback?

I’m a card-carrying member, if not an unofficial captain, of the Pay The Players brigade. However, just as the supply of running backs eventually impacted demand (and price), the same thing could be happening with receivers.

The very best should still get paid. The challenge becomes distinguishing the very best from those that can be readily replaced at a much lower cost. Or, in the case of Jefferson, drawing a line as to how much the very best should get.
 

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I don’t see the circumstances between RB and WR remotely vlose to the same.

The RB role in offenses has greatly diminished while the WR room has become even more important. And, you can’t do it with just one guy (unless it is Kupp) any more. You need a whole stable of WRs to pressure defenses.

NFL is morphing into the Canadian league throwing out the running game and looking for those big chunk plays through the air.

RBs might see an even smaller role in the next decade with WR becoming second only to QB and maybe Edge.
 

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NFL is morphing into the Canadian league throwing out the running game and looking for those big chunk plays through the air.
But it’s got nothing to do with appealing to the lowest common denominator.

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The difference between these markets; a RB you can plug in just about anybody and get 75% the same result as a top tier player.

Not the same with WR’s, IMO.
 

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The difference between these markets; a RB you can plug in just about anybody and get 75% the same result as a top tier player.

Not the same with WR’s, IMO.
But the unspoken difference has been RB injuries. We grouse about that last contract Todd Gurley received with the Rams, but would we have done so if the guy from 2017 had lasted through the contractual period? WR don't have the same career ending injuries, wear and tear that RB's do.
 

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If I'm a genuinely elite athlete at the high school or college level, I'm looking at the number of receivers in every draft and thinking "fuck it, I'll play corner".
 

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The RB role in offenses has greatly diminished while the WR room has become even more important.
I don't agree it's diminished. I believe the need of having a stud bell cow has been diminished. An offense with a good run game is better than one without. As @Loyal pointed out, it's the injuries and career expectency. You can draft RBs every year and plug them into the offense by year 2. You can also draft WRs every year but there are more to choose from and you need more on the roster. It's also becoming clear, you don't need a first round stud but that's where the comparisons end. Good WRs will always command more money and commitment because it's a passing league.
 

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RBs might see an even smaller role in the next decade with WR becoming second only to QB and maybe Edge.

i don't think so. mcvay is usually ahead of the curve and he has come to the realisation that with the way defenses are going, having a strong running game is the way to go moving forward. every move they've made the last couple of years tells us they're gonna run the ball a lot.

of course he has the qb to make teams pay if they start crowding the box. i can't wait to see the rams offense this season.

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This is not news to me. More teams than not have at least one very talented WR. It’s ludicrous to treat the WR position like a QB and just capitulate to these high demands. If a guy isn’t in the top 10%, he can be replaced. There’s so much talent currently at the position in the NFL.
 

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This is not news to me. More teams than not have at least one very talented WR. It’s ludicrous to treat the WR position like a QB and just capitulate to these high demands. If a guy isn’t in the top 10%, he can be replaced. There’s so much talent currently at the position in the NFL.
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Not sure why but IMO WRs ate the biggest prima Donna’s in the NFL. Followed by CBs. Maybe because they are the best athletes on the field.
 

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Since the NFL has become a passing league, I wonder if a team went all out as a running team would be effective?

Load up on powerful run blocking line, blocking tight ends, big receivers that can block, and bring back the fullback. Then, go out and cram it down the defense's throat.

I wonder if this approach to defenses geared to defend the pass, could become an unstoppable threat!
 

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Since the NFL has become a passing league, I wonder if a team went all out as a running team would be effective?

Load up on powerful run blocking line, blocking tight ends, big receivers that can block, and bring back the fullback. Then, go out and cram it down the defense's throat.

I wonder if this approach to defenses geared to defend the pass, could become an unstoppable threat!
Well it just worked in college and you damn well sure know Harbaugh is about to employ this same thing across town. I think it will work because it’s a counter to what most teams are prepped for and that’s a passing schemes in the league now.
 

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Since the NFL has become a passing league, I wonder if a team went all out as a running team would be effective?

Load up on powerful run blocking line, blocking tight ends, big receivers that can block, and bring back the fullback. Then, go out and cram it down the defense's throat.

I wonder if this approach to defenses geared to defend the pass, could become an unstoppable threat!

The Titans did that and did well, but unless you’ve got a stout D, it’s a quick out in the playoffs
 

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If you want a couple good years and a couple deep playoff runs, you can build a good defense to compliment a good run game. If you want to be an annual contender with multiple deep runs, you need a good quarterback with a good passing game. The run game/defense thing only lasts so long.
 

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Owners will pay up and raise ticket and parking prices. SoFi is already at 60$ for parking thousands. For 50 yard line seats.
Crazy how contracts keep climbing, QB's getting 3 mil a game, insane
 

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We are certainly seeing the WR position and market evolve. Long tenured WR's like Evans and Kupp staying in 1 place is becoming rare.
Allen just moved we saw Diggs move in his prime, Hill in his prime. The time top WR's spend in one place seems to be shrinking.

I think we will see the margin between the elite receivers and 2nd tier and below continue to widen as the elite get richer and hog up more cap space. As the passing game continues to develop we will see more specialty roles and those that can do multiple things like Kupp & Nacua will likely get paid and stay put. Those that are less versatile or specialty like TuTu will always be looking over their shoulder and become more transient.

But before it all plays all the way out we will 180 & become a running & ball control time management league ;)
 

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Were Vikings contemplating a trade up for Malik Nabers — and a trade of Justin Jefferson?​

During the first night of the draft, we caught wind of something that ultimately couldn’t be sufficiently confirmed to become an official PFT blurb.

As the unconfirmed rumor went, the Vikings were trying to trade up to No. 5 with the Chargers. With the goal of cutting the line in front of the Giants. With the goal of taking not a quarterback, but LSU receiver Malik Nabers.

It would have massive implications, since it would have given the Vikings a trio of first-round receivers, and no clear-cut answer at quarterback. Again, we never were able to nail it down. (I mentioned it during one of the draft-night videos, after news of the effort made its way to PFT HQ.) On Sunday, near the bottom of a Sunday column from Charley Walters of the St. Paul Pioneer Press covering multiple aspects and angles of Minnesota, appears a stunning blurb.

“Pssst,” Waters writes. “There was buzz at draft time that the Vikings wanted to move from No. 11 to No. 5, not to pick a quarterback but to get LSU wide receiver Malik Nabers, who was picked No. 6 by the Giants. Had that trade occurred, Jefferson would have been traded and Nabers would have been the No. 1 receiver.”

That’s the kind of nugget that would be far more credible if it were the subject of a standalone article that fully and completely fleshed out the situation. That said, the Pioneer Press surely has editorial standards that would have compelled them to have a level of comfort before allowing such a consequential assertion to be printed.

The first part of the report is equivocal, citing “buzz” that the Vikings “wanted” to make the move to No. 5. The back end is unequivocal and clear: “Had that trade occurred, Jefferson would have been traded.”

“Big if true,” as some like to say. In this specific case, it’s massive if true. Not just because it speaks to an alternative universe that nearly happened, but because Jefferson remains a Vikings and continues to not have a new deal.

Until he does, anything can happen. He can sign a new contract. He can be traded. The Vikings can play the “you’re under contract” game for 2024, kick the can to 2025, and apply the franchise tag and figure it out then.

Regardless, his long-term future can’t and won’t be secured until a deal is done. As we said earlier this week on PFT Live (the clip is attached), the team is sending mixed signals about their intentions with Jefferson, proclaiming to the world on one hand that they’re keeping him while on the other hand watching his price go up and up and up as other receivers not named Justin Jefferson sign bigger and bigger deals.