Why the Raiders are worse off with Jon Gruden in charge

[majrleaged]

I didn't think any Rams fan would think that was possible.

She couldn't do what she did without him winning his law suit. Then he too turned his back on LA.

 

[George Remus]

The article seems a bit slanted.

The WR moves are interesting. Jordy Nelson may have lost a step and some quickness but, he start the new culture Gruden wants. Nelson will be a great example leader for the Raiders.

Round 1, pick 15 (from ARI) — Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA
Round 3, Pick 87 (from LAR) — Arden Key, DE, LSU
receiver Martavis Bryant.

Gruden cuts ... punter and saves money

yes to all of the above in your entire post.

I think the biggest off season moves are (#1) DC Gunther over the failures they had for the last few years (#2) Offensive Coordinator ... the new guy had success last season, the guy he replaced didn't. (#3) professional mentor for Derek Carr ... Rich Gannon .... will Carr show any double-pumps this season? I think he will. (#4) the HC from last season lost the respect of his players prior to game 3 last year and he never got that respect back. Even Jeff 7-9 Fisher would be an improvement over the Raider's last season's HC.

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

She couldn't do what she did without him winning his law suit. Then he too turned his back on LA.

Yeah I had forgotten Davis' role in opening up the new era of musical-cities, screw-the-fans NFL. I remember disliking him at the time for that very reason now that you mention it. Even his move to L.A. made it a tough time for Rams fans.

 

[Merlin]

The article seems a bit slanted.

The WR moves are interesting. Jordy Nelson may have lost a step and some quickness but, he start the new culture Gruden wants. Nelson will be a great example leader for the Raiders. If Bryant stays out of trouble he could be a good pickup. He has size and talent. Some risks but they could work out.

Speaking of risks and rewards, how about the Raiders draft.

Yeah I do think subtracting Crabtree was a culture move, and a good one. Nelson is definitely a culture addition, might give them a year but either way he's a stopgap, bridge type guy. And they got Bryant too.

Their draft is a mixed bag to my eye, I mean you never know but Miller was my favorite OT in the draft and I think he's going to be a helluva player. Key I would never have drafted, but hey it's the Raiders. Think they'll miss on him but if not damn. And a couple big bodies for the DL. They might get a few starter level types out of this haul.

I still hate the Raiders btw. And I'm no Gruden fan, but he was an immense HC upgrade. They have a chance now.

 

[tomas]

 

[Debacled]

you made some great points (thank you for being realistic) ... not to mention, the success of the running back that Cable's OL in seattle blocked for ... I forgot what team that RB is on now ...does anyone remember?

I don't know why people get so wound up against the Raiders.

The Rams will defeat them in pre-season, they will defeat them in the regular season, and they will defeat them in the post-season.

going to be a fun season to be watching both the Rams and Raiders.... I'm glad this thread was started.

Feb 3, 2019 here we come.

Gruden isn't a bad coach. Is he worth that contract? Time will tell, but drawing assumptions will get nowhere. He was the hottest name in coaching for nearly a decade for a reason though, and Lombardi trophy winning coaches don't come open every year (I don't care if Dungy 'built" that team).