Why Brycen Hopkins can’t be overlooked

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Tano,
You are singing my tune! I was so surprised and happy that Biadasz was still on the Board in the 4th but the Rams (Snead) got cute and went for Hoppy instead.
Grrrrr..... Still chaps me a year later.

~ArkyRamsFan~
And we got stuck with a full year of Blythe.

I could have seen Blythe starting the first 8 games and then going with Biadasz in the last 8 games once he learned the pro game.

And Memento was so right on how Hopkins was going to pan out.

As I recall, she hated the pick.
 
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I honestly don't think anyone is overlooking Brycen. But it's becoming increasingly obvious that Harris has an exceptional skillset, the kind most HC only dream of a TE having. He will be on par with guys like Graham and Kelce IMO.

Higbee's contract runs through 2023. At that point, he will be 30. His dead cap is such they can release him at anytime after this year. As long as he's producing I think he will remain with the team. I see Harris being the #2 TE this year simply because they can play him out of the slot. His length and speed are a mismatch for any DB or LB they want to put on him. Once he's established as the TE threat he can be, it will allow McVay to play Tutu out of the slot. Facing that kind of speed no defense will match up. Teams might have one CB with that kind of speed but most will be forced to play zone. That will make Stafford's reads simple. Once the ball is snapped he will know immediately what version he's facing and who is likely to be open.

People worry about the OL. Geez, this is Stafford we are talking about. He's going to get the ball out on time. If the defense blitzes, they will pay the penalty. Even this year once teams know what they are facing with Harris and they got a good look Saturday they have to worry. I doubt that Harris will play another snap this pre-season and it will be Blanton, Mundt, and Markway the rest of pre-season. It's obvious the only reason they signed Markway is to see if he can be a lead blocker. In his case the lead impeder as he's not moving anyone.

The number of players being held out just went up to 37 (Benny Sko and Harris). IMO Blanton goes to the PS and is next in line when they decide Higbee is done. IMO, Tyler becomes prime trade bait next year with a very affordable 2 yrs remaining on his contract ($6.8M/yr). Detroit would love to have him as he's better than everyone else other than Hockenson. They could play 12 personnel and it would improve their run game as well. That would give Goff 3 receivers.

The emergence of Harris and Blanton who is having a good TC puts that on the table next year. If they carry 4 TEs and Blanton is #4 look for Higbee to be traded. Blanton might not clear waivers as even the Hawks are looking for one more TE. The Rams need to draft a RB next year and so if they can get a second or third-round pick for a starting TE I think they make the move. That next RB will be big (5'11", close to 230-250 lbs IMO) and fast, running in the low 4.4 range at least. But in reality, all the Rams need is to run power with a true lead blocker not named Markway.

I wouldn't be surprised for them to sign a RB now to help them finish the pre-season. Benny Sko is a warning sign and I think Anderson and whoever they sign won't make the roster but will carry the load in pre-season. This will allow them to hold out all 4 of their roster RBs, Henderson, Funk, Jones and Calais. It wouldn't surprise me if McVay's hold out list went up to 40 from here on out.

I think Hekker will be punting the rest of the way because I think they have seen enough and Bojorquez will be the punter this year. Why? Hekker's punts were low and he's trying to win with placement but it makes his kicks returnable if the returner can catch it. Bojorquez gets distance and hangtime.

Also, DeCamillis showed what he's going to do on KOs. He's going to try to get the kick into a corner inside the 5 yd line and expect the coverage to make the stop inside the 20. Kicking like that limits the returner's options and reduces the field the coverage unit has to cover.

This is not going to be the Ram team the NFCW expects. If they are watching closely they will know who and what they are going to face. McVay's hold-out list tells them more than the game. They will know the roster give or take the bottom 5. They will know the ones on both sides of the ball.

The Bears are already scared because they won't play their future franchise QB. IMO the Niners feel the same. Murray might want to got to MLB next year. Wilson is hoping their reconstructed OL holds up.
 

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I think Hekker will be punting the rest of the way because I think they have seen enough and Bojorquez will be the punter this year. Why? Hekker's punts were low and he's trying to win with placement but it makes his kicks returnable if the returner can catch it. Bojorquez gets distance and hangtime.
Yeah but is he a fan-favorite team leader who can throw like a QB?
 

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The Rams have some deck chairs to shuffle… if Skow was a roster candidate… how does his injury effect early decisions?

Harris is a lock. Mundt appears so. Higbee is of course.

T Jackson certainly appears ahead of Hopkins based on what we saw Saturday.

…. How many TE vs WR make the roster?

No matter how I shuffle that, right now Hopkins is on the outside. Blanton may be ahead of him.
Did we see Blanton Saturday? Was not able to watch the game like usual.I will watch the replay.

Yeah - I’d say Bubba Ram called R. Jackson as his player to impress the most. Ben Skow going down makes it easier on the roster at WR.

Calias though impressed as well.Does Tutu being the PR guy make it harder for T. Jackson though number wise.

Blanton being a bigger TE make it harder for T. Jackson as well ? It’s a numbers game. Special teams does play a part of it.Blanton is a guy that blocks on FG’s & Punts.
 

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There was just no way to justify his lack of production last year considering the excitement they had regarding him, and the go forward need at that position. I'd be shocked if he makes the team, and if he doesnt make the 53, I cant see them giving him a PS spot either. If he's this much of a disappointment, I cant see rewarding him with another shot
He was always on the roster,so there is that because The Rams were deep at TE. Then again Higbee was playing really hurt & Mcvay didn’t trust Hopkins. You never know how a player is going to react.If you don’t have something to really base his lack of productions it’s a hard call.

To all The T. Lewis Haters. Well I believe your wrong about how well he will finish his rookie contract.
 

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And I so wanted Biadesz instead of Hopkins

What a wasted pick

I’d say especially during the draft Brian Allen was the FACE of Covid being the first player in The NFL to get it. Then again Everett was going to be a Free Agent & Les believes in his system.
 

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After watching him fail to get set right or noticeably be lost before the ball is even snapped multiple times in a preseason game I have no expectations of him making the team. He's had a year and a half to learn where the fuck he's supposed to be at and hasn't been trusted to be part of the offense and the first chance he gets is a mess. So I'm going to assume he's unreliable and unable to handle the mental side of the game. Hopefully he proves me wrong.
He won’t, he is what we think he is as a Ram. It will have to happen somewhere else. Hopkins is deep in Mcvay’s DOG HOUSE (out house).
His head is not into it at all.That’s why I lit him up telling him about it a couple times.He knows he is going to get cut. I made sure I told him that as well. His effort is CHIT.
 

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Tano,
You are singing my tune! I was so surprised and happy that Biadasz was still on the Board in the 4th but the Rams (Snead) got cute and went for Hoppy instead.
Grrrrr..... Still chaps me a year later.

~ArkyRamsFan~
Well Humphries was still on the board this year. He is already starting ahead of Austin Blythe with KC.
Brian Allen was a guy I thought Les Snead reached on & cutting John Sullivan to start him the next season pissed me off more.
 

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I honestly don't think anyone is overlooking Brycen. But it's becoming increasingly obvious that Harris has an exceptional skillset, the kind most HC only dream of a TE having. He will be on par with guys like Graham and Kelce IMO.

Higbee's contract runs through 2023. At that point, he will be 30. His dead cap is such they can release him at anytime after this year. As long as he's producing I think he will remain with the team. I see Harris being the #2 TE this year simply because they can play him out of the slot. His length and speed are a mismatch for any DB or LB they want to put on him. Once he's established as the TE threat he can be, it will allow McVay to play Tutu out of the slot. Facing that kind of speed no defense will match up. Teams might have one CB with that kind of speed but most will be forced to play zone. That will make Stafford's reads simple. Once the ball is snapped he will know immediately what version he's facing and who is likely to be open.

People worry about the OL. Geez, this is Stafford we are talking about. He's going to get the ball out on time. If the defense blitzes, they will pay the penalty. Even this year once teams know what they are facing with Harris and they got a good look Saturday they have to worry. I doubt that Harris will play another snap this pre-season and it will be Blanton, Mundt, and Markway the rest of pre-season. It's obvious the only reason they signed Markway is to see if he can be a lead blocker. In his case the lead impeder as he's not moving anyone.

The number of players being held out just went up to 37 (Benny Sko and Harris). IMO Blanton goes to the PS and is next in line when they decide Higbee is done. IMO, Tyler becomes prime trade bait next year with a very affordable 2 yrs remaining on his contract ($6.8M/yr). Detroit would love to have him as he's better than everyone else other than Hockenson. They could play 12 personnel and it would improve their run game as well. That would give Goff 3 receivers.

The emergence of Harris and Blanton who is having a good TC puts that on the table next year. If they carry 4 TEs and Blanton is #4 look for Higbee to be traded. Blanton might not clear waivers as even the Hawks are looking for one more TE. The Rams need to draft a RB next year and so if they can get a second or third-round pick for a starting TE I think they make the move. That next RB will be big (5'11", close to 230-250 lbs IMO) and fast, running in the low 4.4 range at least. But in reality, all the Rams need is to run power with a true lead blocker not named Markway.

I wouldn't be surprised for them to sign a RB now to help them finish the pre-season. Benny Sko is a warning sign and I think Anderson and whoever they sign won't make the roster but will carry the load in pre-season. This will allow them to hold out all 4 of their roster RBs, Henderson, Funk, Jones and Calais. It wouldn't surprise me if McVay's hold out list went up to 40 from here on out.

I think Hekker will be punting the rest of the way because I think they have seen enough and Bojorquez will be the punter this year. Why? Hekker's punts were low and he's trying to win with placement but it makes his kicks returnable if the returner can catch it. Bojorquez gets distance and hangtime.

Also, DeCamillis showed what he's going to do on KOs. He's going to try to get the kick into a corner inside the 5 yd line and expect the coverage to make the stop inside the 20. Kicking like that limits the returner's options and reduces the field the coverage unit has to cover.

This is not going to be the Ram team the NFCW expects. If they are watching closely they will know who and what they are going to face. McVay's hold-out list tells them more than the game. They will know the roster give or take the bottom 5. They will know the ones on both sides of the ball.

The Bears are already scared because they won't play their future franchise QB. IMO the Niners feel the same. Murray might want to got to MLB next year. Wilson is hoping their reconstructed OL holds up.
Well Johnny Mundt is Way ahead of Harris as far as playing time.He is your true TE. Higbee is going to have at least 700 plus receiving yards.
Mcvay the last 2 days of training camp start throwing to Higbee & opening up the offense. He is the guy like KC & 8ers TE. He will find great spacing & Stafford loves to use his TE’s
Cut Higbee ? WTF ? Why not Cut
Big Rob Havenstien? LMAO

Yes - the hype of Harris should be high,but he still needs to be refined.
 

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Tebow bounced off the guy, not sure if the dude even felt him.

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Yeah I'm not sure what's worse about that play, Tebow's limp dick attempt or Browns #59 complete lack of trying that he still let the RB cut behind the "block".
 

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I dunno, do we really want anyone on the team thats softer than a sea otters ass?

Thats a pretty serious accusation made early on page 1 lol

By the way- I’ll be using that term in my real life real soon on some unsuspecting co workers.
 

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Well Humphries was still on the board this year. He is already starting ahead of Austin Blythe with KC.
Brian Allen was a guy I thought Les Snead reached on & cutting John Sullivan to start him the next season pissed me off more.
I wanted Creed worse than Ivan Drago lol
 

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Tebow bounced off the guy, not sure if the dude even felt him.

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Well at least Tebow got in the way.

Blythe against GB missed his block so bad that the defensive lineman ran in so fast that Akers just side stepped him.
 

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People worry about the OL. Geez, this is Stafford we are talking about. He's going to get the ball out on time. If the defense blitzes, they will pay the penalty.

It's early yet and we are still playing the 'B' squad on our OL with pre-season games, ... it seems along with Evans being demoted off the first team, fans appear to currently be leaning towards some concern with our rush blocking, not so much worrying over our pass pro. We know what Stafford brings to the passing game, but the one thing he lacked in Detroit was a solid rushing game, something few of us were concerned over while Akers was still healthy and Evans was thought to be the best contender for the previously planned starting RG role. It was expected that our aerial attack would open our rush game, and this is likely to occur anyway, but how much of a setback does an absent Akers & Evans create for a long season ? For Evans, it may be more of a psychological loss than an actual talent drain, but it does open some depth concerns. Other than not knowing how Allen will progress at Center just yet, our starting OL remains the same as last season, so if Allen is only fractionally better than Blythe was, our OL should be ready for success. jmo.
 

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It's early yet and we are still playing the 'B' squad on our OL with pre-season games, ... it seems along with Evans being demoted off the first team, fans appear to currently be leaning towards some concern with our rush blocking, not so much worrying over our pass pro. We know what Stafford brings to the passing game, but the one thing he lacked in Detroit was a solid rushing game, something few of us were concerned over while Akers was still healthy and Evans was thought to be the best contender for the previously planned starting RG role. It was expected that our aerial attack would open our rush game, and this is likely to occur anyway, but how much of a setback does an absent Akers & Evans create for a long season ? For Evans, it may be more of a psychological loss than an actual talent drain, but it does open some depth concerns. Other than not knowing how Allen will progress at Center just yet, our starting OL remains the same as last season, so if Allen is only fractionally better than Blythe was, our OL should be ready for success. jmo.
I am worried about injuries to any of our interior linemen. I just don't see a capable back-up yet unless Anchrum is ready to go in that capacity.

However, I do like our back-ups at either tackle spot.

Noteboom Anchrum and Evans all appear to be capable back-up tackles.

Get Evans off the guard position. He is not a guard.
 

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He was always on the roster,so there is that because The Rams were deep at TE. Then again Higbee was playing really hurt & Mcvay didn’t trust Hopkins. You never know how a player is going to react.If you don’t have something to really base his lack of productions it’s a hard call.
It's not a hard call. They drafted him, were all excited about him, talked about packages to include him. And he was only active for 5 games despite knowing Everett was a goner, Higbee was hurt and Mundt will never be more than a blocking/ST TE. McVay doesnt "redshirt" rookies, he plays them right away. There is only 1 reason he didnt play, and so far this pre-season is confirming it. He has no business being on the field
 

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I am worried about injuries to any of our interior linemen. I just don't see a capable back-up yet unless Anchrum is ready to go in that capacity.

However, I do like our back-ups at either tackle spot.

Noteboom Anchrum and Evans all appear to be capable back-up tackles.

Get Evans off the guard position. He is not a guard.
I think Anchrum is the kind of guy they hoped Boom was. A guy who can come in at multiple positions and hold shit down for you if needed. Where he's different from Boom is his strength. He's a squatty and square MFer but he's got good power and moves well.

The Rams' OL if you were to rank them to 6 is pretty good. Because of Anchrum IMO. Rams would list Boom as their 6th OL but I wouldn't. I see Boom only as primary LT backup. If any other position goes down he's not the guy I'd go with, I'd go with Anchrum. And if it's Center then Corbs slides over and Anchrum goes in at RG.