Which WR excites you the most for the Rams?

[Merlin]

I really don't see us taking a rotational NT that doesn't rush the passer that high in the draft if I'm being honest

I don't think McDonald is all that far behind the other options. Neither is Miller. Either of those dudes would put Ford on the bench and he'd serve as a depth piece who can move around. They'd both start year one and make this DL far stronger, which would be great for our playoff run. That's year one impact.

Lot of other choices would not do that. So while I agree you don't normally want to go NT up high, in this particular year I think team boards are going to have a ton of deviation team to team.

 

[jjab360]

I don't think McDonald is all that far behind the other options. Neither is Miller. Either of those dudes would put Ford on the bench and he'd serve as a depth piece who can move around. They'd both start year one and make this DL far stronger, which would be great for our playoff run. That's year one impact.

Lot of other choices would not do that. So while I agree you don't normally want to go NT up high, in this particular year I think team boards are going to have a ton of deviation team to team.

Idk if I'm seeing the thought process here, do you think those guys are really that good or do you think Poona would be that easy to replace? Personally, I thought Poona was really, really good for us last year. I'm also not seeing star potential in either McDonald or Miller, both are non-factors as pass rushers even at the college level and you aren't going to take a DL in the first half of the first round who can't rush the passer.

McDonald is probably best compared to his former teammate Tyleik Williams who went a bit earlier than most thought he would in the late first last year and hasn't really made much of an impact for Detroit yet, at least not as much as someone like Poona. Would you take Tyleik Williams 13th overall or do you think I'm off base and evaluate McDonald in an entirely different tier?

 

[Mojo Ram]

FWIW, Arizona State’s strength and conditioning the last few years haven’t produced a great track record. Their roster is seemingly banged up constantly. Come to think of it, same goes for the professional Cardinals who play here. Rarely healthy ever it seems.

Could mean they suck, could be the climate, could mean nothing.

 

[DzRams]

I don't think McDonald is all that far behind the other options. Neither is Miller. Either of those dudes would put Ford on the bench and he'd serve as a depth piece who can move around. They'd both start year one and make this DL far stronger, which would be great for our playoff run. That's year one impact.

Lot of other choices would not do that. So while I agree you don't normally want to go NT up high, in this particular year I think team boards are going to have a ton of deviation team to team.

Ford was near elite for us last year. You really see McDonald and Miller as being elite players?

 

[DzRams]

inability to stay healthy. There's no way to know that answer today absent medicals showing some reason to think it's the latter.

I don't think there are any medicals that can tell whether his body is not durable or his injuries are just bad injury luck. It comes down to whether a team is willing to take a chance.

 

[CGI_Ram]

If we take Tyson, I trust the medical staff, and I’ll get behind him 100%.

I just don’t know the medicals and what I know concerns me.

Even if Cooper’s ceiling is Robert Woods, that’s a huge get for this offense.

Lemon is going to be a stud, IMO. Tate too.

I like those 3.

 

[André]

If we take Tyson, I trust the medical staff, and I’ll get behind him 100%.

I just don’t know the medicals and what I know concerns me.

Even if Cooper’s ceiling is Robert Woods, that’s a huge get for this offense.

Lemon is going to be a stud, IMO. Tate too.

I like those 3.

Tate or Lemon at 13, or trade down for Cooper Jr.

 

[jrry32]

I don't think there are any medicals that can tell whether his body is not durable or his injuries are just bad injury luck. It comes down to whether a team is willing to take a chance.

What I mean is that the medicals might turn up some degenerative condition or injuries that haven't healed properly. Otherwise, it's all a guess.

 

[TheTackle]

I feel that there is no smoke without fire. Tyson will drop to 13 and could be the best WR in this draft. That said, I agree with CGI that Tate Lemon and Cooper are safe picks to perform in our system

In terms of Tyson’s current injury

I asked Gemini

Athletes are prone to repetitive hamstring injuries primarily because a previous injury is the strongest predictor of future injury, with re-injury rates often ranging from 12% to 63%. These injuries are notoriously recurrent due to incomplete rehabilitation, lingering structural weaknesses (like scar tissue), and muscle imbalances that are not fully corrected before returning to sport

So, his lengthy lay off could be to help stop it reoccurring or it could be he’s got a problem that stems from scar tissue. His medicals are huge and I would guess the media narratives are simply speculation because they simply do not know and so are guessing

 

[Merlin]

Ford was near elite for us last year. You really see McDonald and Miller as being elite players?

Ford was good. But we were too dependent on him.

I think either of those kids wins the starting role in those fronts, and helps protect our previous DL investments.

 

[fearsomefour]

FWIW, Arizona State’s strength and conditioning the last few years haven’t produced a great track record. Their roster is seemingly banged up constantly. Come to think of it, same goes for the professional Cardinals who play here. Rarely healthy ever it seems.

Could mean they suck, could be the climate, could mean nothing.

 

[Allen2McVay]

...

Athletes are prone to repetitive hamstring injuries primarily because a previous injury is the strongest predictor of future injury, with re-injury rates often ranging from 12% to 63%. These injuries are notoriously recurrent due to incomplete rehabilitation, lingering structural weaknesses (like scar tissue), and muscle imbalances that are not fully corrected before returning to sport

Not going to disagree with any of that but I can not help thinking about Isaac Bruce's problems with hamstring injuries early in his career.

 

[Ram Ts]

Not going to disagree with any of that but I can not help thinking about Isaac Bruce's problems with hamstring injuries early in his career.

There’s a bit of over analysis happening with Tyson with only about 10% knowledge.

On the surface, sure not running and working out is a concern with his past injuries. Maybe there are medicals (unknown to us) saying big problems. Then again, maybe he’s being told (by agent and teams interested in him) that running a 40 yard dash is completely unnecessary and a waste of time/effort - better to work on your body to prepare for actual football.

Using limited knowledge to make absolute comments seems odd. If the rams pass on him draft day, I trust them. If they take him and think he’s fine, I trust them. I’m not gonna pretend to know one way or the other.

 

[Flatlyner]

4/17 is a big day for Tyson. Might put him out of our reach.

 

[den-the-coach]

4/17 is a big day for Tyson. Might put him out of our reach.

Let’s see what Tyson does before speculation.

 

[badnews]

Ted Hurst, although lacking some polish, sure looks the part imo.
He reminds me of a couple former Rams WRs actually.
The first is young Torry Holt. Hurst is taller, but something in his build and in his stride is reminiscent of Holt.

Surprisingly smooth and sudden when flipping his hips, both in his routes and when off-script. Runs high and keeps his pads level through his cuts. Looks, sees and adjusts to the QB/ball naturally. Managed to produce even despite poor QB play and that reminded me of Big Game too. ( and no, the comparison wasn't inspired by their shared initials, just a coincidence.
Hurst is clearly less heralded as a prospect than Torry was.
On the not-so-positive side of the spectrum, the other former Ram WR who came to mind while looking at Hurst is Cryin Brick.
Uh-oh, oops. My bad. I was actually trying to write "Brian Quick", and like his time in horns, I failed miserably.
Like Quick, Hurst has a the protypical size/speed combination that can't be coached up and he also hasn't faced a lot of top competition. When he has, his production suffered.

- I don't think Hurst is BQ 2.0.
That class was weak in WRs, the Rams scouting department was hot garbage and that selection wouldn't happen today.
Unlike Quick, Hurst tape shows his natural ability to create separation and he understands how to use his size advantage to go up and get the ball. Quick looked strong, but couldn't figure out how to use it.

Idk where Hurst goes or how he'll develop, but with this team and our coaching, I really really like his chances.

 

[Memphis Ram]

View: https://youtu.be/EjCFOQJEiYs?si=gOQBGinnienLKwAL

 

[PhillyRam]

I feel that there is no smoke without fire. Tyson will drop to 13 and could be the best WR in this draft. That said, I agree with CGI that Tate Lemon and Cooper are safe picks to perform in our system

In terms of Tyson’s current injury

I asked Gemini

Athletes are prone to repetitive hamstring injuries primarily because a previous injury is the strongest predictor of future injury, with re-injury rates often ranging from 12% to 63%. These injuries are notoriously recurrent due to incomplete rehabilitation, lingering structural weaknesses (like scar tissue), and muscle imbalances that are not fully corrected before returning to sport

So, his lengthy lay off could be to help stop it reoccurring or it could be he’s got a problem that stems from scar tissue. His medicals are huge and I would guess the media narratives are simply speculation because they simply do not know and so are guessing

I watched some videos of Tyson and he is so tempting. Looks like a stud. Potential top 5 WR in the league if he can stay healthy and continue to develop. Just scary with his injury issues.