Which WR excites you the most for the Rams?

[Merlin]

I see a lot of those so called experts have him sneaking higher and higher into the 1st round lately. Do we fall back to say Fields in the 2nd will he even last? Guys like Sarratt and Bernard seem to fall around our 2nd round pick. I've seen Bell everywhere from early 2nd to late 3rd and there's Ted Hurst too he is exciting plus a returner right? Man this just made things crazier.

Receivers are hard to slot too because it's about what role you want them for. So I think any of the players slotted into the 20s range could end up with a higher grade with the Rams if they have the mentality and personality fit for the locker room on top of filling a role the Rams want.

So the conversation I think hinges on what would they be looking for. My assumption is size outside the hash with catch radius because in today's league a lot of teams are playing bend but don't break approaches and games are being won/lost in redzone efficiency. If your offense can score TDs you're gonna win a lot of games. If that opponent can force you into FGs you're likely to drop games to good teams.

Maybe the Rams want speed though. And then you have the personalities and fit for the We Not Me philosophy. Lot of wideouts are prima donnas. So I think if a wideout is close or in that "bucket" as Les calls it, and he's a fit on the mentality side, a slight reach is ok.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I don't have time to do it right now but think it would be fun to analyze what the Rams have done at X historically under McVay. I would argue that we do have a "type" with him and while that doesn't mean we go in that direction again, I do think it's helpful to look at receivers we might not be as high on as others in this draft.

That type mind you is not typically a "size" X over an "agile cutter on breaks and speed X," guys who are far more likely to get to a spot on the field vs throwing the ball up and let them body guys to get it.

Also, interestingly, we do have a size X on the team right now who can play there in spots. Fergy.

 

[Merlin]

I don't have time to do it right now but think it would be fun to analyze what the Rams have done at X historically under McVay. I would argue that we do have a "type" with him and while that doesn't mean we go in that direction again, I do think it's helpful to look at receivers we might not be as high on as others in this draft.

That type mind you is not typically a "size" X over an "agile cutter on breaks and speed X," guys who are far more likely to get to a spot on the field vs throwing the ball up and let them body guys to get it.

Also, interestingly, we do have a size X on the team right now who can play there in spots. Fergy.

X role wideouts are hard to find. They generally must be taken early in drafts because of supply and demand. There simply are not enough big wideouts who have the traits required for the role. And the Rams simply have not drafted high enough to be able to find one of them. This does not mean that McVay has some philosophy that is opposed to a legitimate X wideout.

Also Ferg is not an X role option. Where he intersects with that X role is he will compete with the WR3 on our depth chart for snaps vs a given defense. So the better he becomes the better the offense will be in terms of options to add his size and hands to the equation. But it needs to be understood that he's no X. There is a significant difference in the two. Also if he can win the primary TE role this season he will get the snaps regardless. Hope he can do that but we'll see.

Closest thing we have to a real X right now is Adams but he's getting up there in age and he will probably be gone after this season. So there is a legitimate need for the Rams to add that element to the offense. And for 2026 if they do add that element that player will probably get a lot of looks vs the TE group, certainly enough to be felt in the redzone or 4 minute situations.

Good thing is there are a lot of options in this class. I like the options at the top a lot more, but there are some I think may end up being good pros into let's say late round 2 to round 3 range. We'll see how it shakes out though.

 

[DzRams]

I see a lot of those so called experts have him sneaking higher and higher into the 1st round lately. Do we fall back to say Fields in the 2nd will he even last? Guys like Sarratt and Bernard seem to fall around our 2nd round pick. I've seen Bell everywhere from early 2nd to late 3rd and there's Ted Hurst too he is exciting plus a returner right? Man this just made things crazier.

Well my vote after today's trade is to move 13 into the mid 20s for as much draft capital as we can get. I'd take Omar, but Sadiq may be there, and other WRs...

 

[OldSchool]

Well my vote after today's trade is to move 13 into the mid 20s for as much draft capital as we can get. I'd take Omar, but Sadiq may be there, and other WRs...

The issue is who's trading up and for what? And if you trade down from 13 you aren't getting Sadiq hell we might not get him at 13.

One of the worst lines ever is "there are only X amount of 1st round graded players" and those people are out parroting that there aren't a lot of 1st round players in this draft so I can't see with that line of though that people want to trade up in the 1st.

 

[PhillyRam]

The issue is who's trading up and for what? And if you trade down from 13 you aren't getting Sadiq hell we might not get him at 13.

One of the worst lines ever is "there are only X amount of 1st round graded players" and those people are out parroting that there aren't a lot of 1st round players in this draft so I can't see with that line of though that people want to trade up in the 1st.

It would be player specific. I could see an OL needy team like the Lions ir Texans wanting to get one of the top OL that should be there at 13

 

[Merlin]

Well my vote after today's trade is to move 13 into the mid 20s for as much draft capital as we can get. I'd take Omar, but Sadiq may be there, and other WRs...

I'm not high on Sadiq as a fit for us. He's a hell of an athlete. Has enticing upside. But we need a seam stretcher who can make contested catches over the middle or on the sideline more than a dumpoff or screen threat.

 

[PhillyRam]

I'm not high on Sadiq as a fit for us. He's a hell of an athlete. Has enticing upside. But we need a seam stretcher who can make contested catches over the middle or on the sideline more than a dumpoff or screen threat.

Imagine the attention he would draw away from Nacua & Ferguson.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Concepcion's hands issues gonna make him a wildcard where he goes. Lots of pass catchers this year seem to have hands issue from just a cursory look at prospects.

Cooper is a high floor pick but how high is the ceiling with him.

Yeah guess it's a moot point now lol

 

[DzRams]

The issue is who's trading up and for what? And if you trade down from 13 you aren't getting Sadiq hell we might not get him at 13.

One of the worst lines ever is "there are only X amount of 1st round graded players" and those people are out parroting that there aren't a lot of 1st round players in this draft so I can't see with that line of though that people want to trade up in the 1st.

That I don't know. That's my preferred strategy but if there's not a trade partner, so be it. I dont have any players I love projected to be available at 13.

 

[Memphis Ram]

View: https://youtu.be/Pu4NVmzUZ-M

 

[WestCoastRam]

I'm not high on Sadiq as a fit for us. He's a hell of an athlete. Has enticing upside. But we need a seam stretcher who can make contested catches over the middle or on the sideline more than a dumpoff or screen threat.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFNSw_b6g2I


In this highlight video he stretches the seam three times and they're all touchdowns. Now I haven't really watched his games but what exactly are you seeing in his play that makes you think he's not a seam stretcher?

 

[dang]

I proposed this on another thread…as a potential option:

Trade down to get Omar Cooper and another R2 draft pick. My guess is Cooper goes end of R1.

Proposed trade/draft scenario:
Trade R1.13 to HOU for R1.28 & R2.38.
Omar Cooper WR IND @R1.28.
Chris Johnson CB SDST @R2.38.

 

[Merlin]

In this highlight video he stretches the seam three times and they're all touchdowns. Now I haven't really watched his games but what exactly are you seeing in his play that makes you think he's not a seam stretcher?

Drop rate over 10%. Low usage in the Oregon offense. Most of his yards were RAC.

His strength is definitely RAC. But projecting him to this offense I don't see him being shoehorned into a high snap role and getting volume of passes to do what this offense needs from its tight ends, which is stretching those seams over the middle. His usage early on would be dumpoff passes, screens, pops over the middle, etc.

So he is a very intriguing talent. But I don't see him as a "Rams must take him at 13" talent.

Also quite often when a player doesn't end up with high volume there are good reasons for that as well. So I will say if the Rams vet him, which means they're gonna talk to his staff and hopefully get the real skinny on some things with him, and they think they can overcome them, cool. But the Rams are not perfect in projection. They missed on Everett who was also a top athlete who needed some dev and never had the hands and agility to stretch the seams.

I'd rather go another direction. WR at that spot if the right guy is there. Corner if the right guy is there. Etc. And then if I felt some need to take a TE the dude I take would be Klein. Who doesn't need to go high, has good athleticism for the position, and the hands and all the rest. But mainly doesn't need the higher pick. I don't see return on Sadiq going to LA early.

 

[Merlin]

I proposed this on another thread…as a potential option:

Trade down to get Omar Cooper and another R2 draft pick. My guess is Cooper goes end of R1.

Proposed trade/draft scenario:
Trade R1.13 to HOU for R1.28 & R2.38.
Omar Cooper WR IND @R1.28.
Chris Johnson CB SDST @R2.38.

I would love a trade down. And I'd love to see Omar added to this offense.

 

[Merlin]

Imagine the attention he would draw away from Nacua & Ferguson.

If the Rams are high on him and project him to be worth it I'll get behind it. I'm not gonna complain if they take him, other than observe what I think again. But I'll root for him just like I did some others I didn't like when we took them.

Rams are the experts here. We'll see what they think. I'm just about full though personally, as it pertains to Oregon project TEs and I don't see enough of him in their games to think that's gonna change at the pro level. He's a long term project to my eye.

 

[PhillyRam]

If the Rams are high on him and project him to be worth it I'll get behind it. I'm not gonna complain if they take him, other than observe what I think again. But I'll root for him just like I did some others I didn't like when we took them.

Rams are the experts here. We'll see what they think. I'm just about full though personally, as it pertains to Oregon project TEs and I don't see enough of him in their games to think that's gonna change at the pro level. He's a long term project to my eye.

Actually, I prefer a trade down of possible and continue to add to the defense and you could grab a WR and a TE a little later.

In fact McVay left the door open that Higbee could still return. If so, they can pass on TE with Higbee and even PS project Mark Redman still on the roster. That would suffice for next year.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Do we take him at 13? He won't be there in the 2nd for us IMO. I realize this comment was before the trade but yeah a lot of us like Cooper JR but do we get him now?

I think if he's the target, we do a slight trade back for more picks? What do you think would be the range the Rams should be ok doing so if they go that route? I say maybe 20 at worst?

 

[Merlin]

Actually, I prefer a trade down of possible and continue to add to the defense and you could grab a WR and a TE a little later.

In fact McVay left the door open that Higbee could still return. If so, they can pass on TE with Higbee and even PS project Mark Redman still on the roster. That would suffice for next year.

Agreed, I'd prefer a move down as well. I'd lke to recoup a round 3 pick. For example that round 3 pick could be Lane (USC) who is a legit X receiver project with great hands. But since he's a project he will in fact go where he should, which is outside the early going. And that's fine with me. Let him cook on the chart and learn from the Rams and their great wideouts how to beat that jam.

Re: McVay and Higs it would be cool to have him return at the team's cost point. I think that's what McVay was saying there, it's my read on it at least. And if that's the case then it means he can be easily cut if they hit on a TE mid to late. It's a tough living in the NFL.