What did Les do to Carolina?

[DzRams]

I also have a couple thoughts but I think I will stop at one because you and Elm are being a little dense IMO.

This is my 4th response on this topic but in my 1st response was the following acknowledgement ...
"Of course we are just guessing here"

Yeah I was just throwing in my agreement with that sentiment ...so we can all be on the same page that this ain't that serious.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Seemed to me like you over-reacted to a harmless post that was provided with clear clarification.

It was ... and is (in my opinion) ... Reasonable Speculation ... which is a nice way of saying ... A Guess

Two years ago, it was reported that the Rams were interested in Dalton Kincaid.
Last year, it was reported that they wanted Brock Bowers (or the top-DL Byron Murphy).
This year, they drafted Ferguson with their top pick; and it was reported, he may have been their pick at #26.

Colston Loveland was a hot commodity this Draft, and offers similar skill set to the other TEs mentioned above ... again, in my opinion. McMillan did not make much sense to me.

Dianna Russini reported it was McMillan. Tom Pelissero suggested it was Emeka Egbuka. They are both solid reporters, and I do not discount their comments. Most of the other articles I have read were based on the comments of Russini and Pelissero.

Last year the Rams nearly signed Mike Evans. Then they tried to acquire Courtland Sutton. Why wouldn’t McMillan make sense?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

OK. I got bored so last one with you.

It's ALL speculation. From this fan AND the non-Rams team sources reported by Russini. Again she said other teams believed. Not as a fact from someone with the Rams.

This is unless one truly believes that the Rams organization is dumb enough to let if be known to other teams their targeted player which from what I understand teams don't typically do. Why? Because it would be a boneheaded move strategically as another team could trade up ahead or compete with you for said player if they found out.

And a team or teams believing something doesn't necessarily make it more likely or true. Over the years there have been other post draft articles of teams trading up to get ahead of teams that they believed were targeting a player they weren't even targeting. Shoot even last year, the Eagles thought the Rams were targeting the Iowa CB when they traded up for Fiske. Pre-Draft Lying or Smoke Screen Season isn't for the media or fans. It's to throw off the other drafting teams.

BTW, here's another report from Rapoport


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Perhaps the Rams are included with these teams. Maybe they weren't. No one knows but the Rams and those teams. But notice he says teams. Has everything leaked out regarding each of the teams Rapoport says tried to trade up? If not, does that doesn't mean it didn't happen with those teams?

I think I've made this point before, but contrary to what may be popular belief, there are things that go on in NFL Offices that we don't know or will ever hear about which leads to speculation from everyone outside of that organization.

I see no reason, after the fact, that anyone would lie about who they think the Rams were trying to trade up for. And like I said, they have more qualified opinions on the topic. Scouts talk, reporters talk, GMs talk.

I used to think that the info was top secret for every team. Back when the Seahawks drafted Russell Wilson there was a story that said every team in the league knew they were going to draft Wilson. So, since then, I question how secretive it all is. I know Snead tries to do his best hiding his intentions and draft boards, and I think he does a good job of it. But with so many working parts there is going to be people talking. 32 teams, an average of 21 front office people on each team and tons of reporters makes it hard to keep a secret after the picks were made. And, Gladstone called the Rams pick before it was made. He was out of the building by February 21. Maybe he was one of the leaks on McMillan.

But guess all you want. I won’t comment on it anymore.

 

[Memphis Ram]

They wanted this TE badly. only pick that would make sense.
Glad trade didn't go through. We still drafted a talented TE and IMO we acquired some very high potential players



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I agree. Panthers saved the Rams from themselves just like the Jets and other teams did last year with Bowers.

Oh well. Best I can tell this tweet made at 8:33 PM, shortly after the selection, appears to be the source of multiple articles mimicking the same.

View: https://x.com/DMRussini/status/1915580000600035482


All the subterfuge the organization goes through during draft's pre-draft process to hide their intentions from the other teams went for naught about an hour and a half into the draft for some, I guess.

 

[dieterbrock]

Is there really a good reason to doubt that report? After the Panthers took McMillan there were no other reports of the Rams trying to trade up for another player, unlike in the 2024 draft.

No doubt. They wanted Tet. It made total sense, the kid is an athletic freak and like you said, a Mike Evans type. The reports of his not caring and being aloof were all media propaganda and I also believe that Puka Nacua's Polynesian background was a big part.
Alas.... If the Rams got him, he would have been the greatest ever, but since they didnt, he's now a POS

 

[DzRams]

They wanted this TE badly. only pick that would make sense.
Glad trade didn't go through.We still drafted a talented TE and IMO we aquired some very high potential players



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I'm curious on why Warren wouldn't have made sense?

 

[WestCoastRam]

If the Rams got him, he would have been the greatest ever, but since they didnt, he's now a POS

this is the way

 

[RamFan503]

Yes. I’m fine. Thanks.

It just seems odd to guess it was someone else, when we have a reporter telling us what other teams told her. Do you think she lied? Do the other teams have a reason to lie to her about it?

If she talks to three teams and asks who the Rams were considering trading up for, and all three teams said McMillan, I think that’s likely accurate. If 4/6 teams said that, then I’d think that’s pretty accurate.

I don’t see the point in creating a second narrative.

Since when are the Rams going to tell ANYONE who they are trading up for? It didn’t happen. The guessing by some reporters is likely simply based on the fact they were going after the Panthers’ pick. It doesn’t mean they’re right no matter how many of them guessed the same thing. And we all know how it works. Reporters are so into group think it’s laughable.

It’s all speculation. There’s no second narrative. It’s fans guessing. Just like the reporters you have such confidence in.

 

[PARAM]

The Panthers and their crazy owner probably figured, "the Rams may be trying to fleece us, so, no thanks. We are totally capable of fucking things up on our own!'

 

[CoachAllred]

I'm curious on why Warren wouldn't have made sense?

Not sure, Warren went after Colston in draft which according to a lot TE rankings
everyone was ranking warren as TE1. Maybe Teams see more upside in Colston.
I have heard that warren is a "can't miss prospect- Day1 starter"
Not that anyone has been wrong in such predictions. lol.

 

[CoachAllred]

Panthers saved the Rams from themselves

 

[CoachAllred]

IMO, McVay was going to get a TE come hell or high water this draft.

LOL. No Doubt.
I'm Glad the trade didn't work out. Still got what could be a top TE
along with some very interesting Talent.

I also think you're right about McVay falling for a offensive weapon,
and Les trying to calm him down.

I think we may have drafted a paticular WR that was
taken because the one he really wanted was picked before Rams pick was up. "just speculation"
Still got what could be a top TE

 

[Londoner]

"just speculation"

It all is.

Only those in the Rams' FO know what actually happened.

 

[Mojo Ram]

It’s a tad too early to proclaim the Rams were saved by failing to trade up.

If Tet(who I didn’t like) or Loveland or Warren light it up and Fergs catches 20 balls this year…F those picks.

 

[Memphis Ram]

LOL. No Doubt.
I'm Glad the trade didn't work out. Still got what could be a top TE
along with some very interesting Talent.

I also think you're right about McVay falling for a offensive weapon,
and Les trying to calm him down.

I think we may have drafted a paticular WR that was
taken because the one he really wanted was picked before Rams pick was up. "just speculation"
Still got what could be a top TE

Could be. I really wonder what their take was on Iowa State's WR Jayden Higgins. He's about the same size as McMillian with a similar 40 time, longer arms, and a 5" better vertical jump.

Along with last year's trade up attempt for Bowers, I guess I can see how a team trying to win now would go the TE route. Better 12 personnel looks and if Higbee goes down again you've got next to nothing at the position. Taking a WR or worse yet trading up for one after signing and talking up Adams and Tutu to go with Puka seems sorta questionable for win now mode to me.

McMillian? Possible, of course. I just don't see it in comparison to Loveland.

 

[Memphis Ram]

It’s a tad too early to proclaim the Rams were saved by failing to trade up.

If Tet(who I didn’t like) or Loveland or Warren light it up and Fergs catches 20 balls this year…F those picks.

Of course, it's not just a one on one thing. The opportunity cost of the other players selected with picks traded have to also be considered.

 

[majrleaged]

It’s a tad too early to proclaim the Rams were saved by failing to trade up.

If Tet(who I didn’t like) or Loveland or Warren light it up and Fergs catches 20 balls this year…F those picks.

Well, if they get a franchise QB in the draft next year, or maybe use the extra #1 at the trade deadline for someone who puts us over the top to the SB. it will still be good they didn't trade up.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Since when are the Rams going to tell ANYONE who they are trading up for? It didn’t happen. The guessing by some reporters is likely simply based on the fact they were going after the Panthers’ pick. It doesn’t mean they’re right no matter how many of them guessed the same thing. And we all know how it works. Reporters are so into group think it’s laughable.

It’s all speculation. There’s no second narrative. It’s fans guessing. Just like the reporters you have such confidence in.

Russini said last year that she teams don’t give up info on themselves but gladly give it on other teams. Her report was that several teams said they think it was McMillan. Then someone suggested it was lies. Seems odd that several teams banded together to tell a lie about who the Rams had interest in. What purpose does that serve?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

LOL. No Doubt.
I'm Glad the trade didn't work out. Still got what could be a top TE
along with some very interesting Talent.

I also think you're right about McVay falling for a offensive weapon,
and Les trying to calm him down.

I think we may have drafted a paticular WR that was
taken because the one he really wanted was picked before Rams pick was up. "just speculation"
Still got what could be a top TE

If they get a future franchise QB by standing pat it will Trump not getting a great receiver.

Well, if they get a franchise QB in the draft next year, or maybe use the extra #1 at the trade deadline for someone who puts us over the top to the SB. it will still be good they didn't trade up.

I was going to say this. They likely never dreamed they’d get a second round pick and number 1 next year for this years first, when discussing trading up.

 

[JYB]

It’s been reported that the rams were interested in moving up for T Mac and that the panthers were like, “not this time buddy”, and asked for a kings ransom. So they felt like they got a raw deal from the rams previously?

This is what Jourdan states in this video.


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