What did Les do to Carolina?

[kurtfaulk]

Who did the Rams want at 8?

I refuse to believe they would give up the farm for a wr in this draft. Was there even a player available good enough that a team would give up the farm to take?

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[Elmgrovegnome]

I refuse to believe they would give up the farm for a wr in this draft. Was there even a player available good enough that a team would give up the farm to take?

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It’s true. They tried to trade up for Tet McMillan. It was even on the Panthers video that they do. (similar to Behind the Grind)

Here is a story about it.

Panthers sought 'load of picks' from Rams in exchange for rights to WR Tetairoa McMillan

According to reporter Darin Gantt, the Panthers entertained the idea of handing over Tetairoa McMillan to the Rams. But they wanted a haul to do so.

pantherswire.usatoday.com

McVay has been wanting a tall possession receiver for a few years now. He tried to get Mike Evans and Courtland Sutton last year. McMillan is 6’-4”.

Go back to page one. @Memphis Ram posted a clip of it.

 

[snackdaddy]

This is another case of glad the move up didn't happen. If we moved up for Bowers last year we would not have Verse or Fiske. Bowers is a great weapon but this defense has a chance to be really good with those two. And we all know McVay has been wanting a playmaking tight end for years. He didn't get the tall wide receiver he wanted but he got a tight end who fits what he wants to do. And two first round picks next year.

 

[Coliseum Ram]

This is another case of glad the move up didn't happen. If we moved up for Bowers last year we would not have Verse or Fiske. Bowers is a great weapon but this defense has a chance to be really good with those two. And we all know McVay has been wanting a playmaking tight end for years. He didn't get the tall wide receiver he wanted but he got a tight end who fits what he wants to do. And two first round picks next year.

Great points. That's why I hate when those "behind the scenes" videos from the Draft come out. When we saw the one last year of Les trying to trade up with the Jets it's basically telling Verse and Fiske we came within a hair of not having you. In my opinion that stuff belongs buried and shouldn't be made public.

 

[gogoat1]

There are many,, many...................................................reasons why the Panthers SUCK.
We were there not all that long ago fellas.
Just enjoy it fellas. We are living through the best era to be a Rams fan.
Just because of the people in change.

 

[CoachAllred]

Yeah man. That clap felt like an explosive outlet of group nervousness.

Also who's the head motherfucker in charge of their draft. The GM? Or the overly chatty executive vp of running his mouth. If I was the owner that dude wouldn't be around long.

I felt the same way watching them. there were too many people chiming in
It had the feel of a non-confident , nervous war room

I guess we're used to seeing a draft room that is very dialed in, prepared and confident
Les and McVay getting together and making a group decision.
They are the only ones I have heard speaking unless they ask someone a question

 

[RamFan503]

Yeah man. That clap felt like an explosive outlet of group nervousness.

This was posted in another thread but it really seems to apply to the clapping scene.

View: https://youtu.be/uTmfwklFM-M?si=CJTVALk12H30Q7AT

 

[Memphis Ram]

Who did the Rams want at 8?

That's the key question.

IMO, the answer is TE Colston Loveland.

Last year Bowers and Murphy II were speculated and confirmed.
Tetairoa McMillan has been speculated, but not confirmed.

If I were running the Panthers, I'd push that the Rams wanted the guy we selected, too.

For a team that has gone heavily for guys that love the game, McMillian just doesn't sound like a fit based upon information learned during the pre-draft process.

Someone else mentioned the Rams shopping for bigger WR in the past. Could be a clue, but a similarly sized Jayden Higgins with longer arms and a probably a better vertical was still on the board. IMO, McVay was going to get a TE come hell or high water this draft.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

This potential trade coupled with the attempt to get Bowers, plus reports of possibly trading for Kincaid or a receiver, demonstrates McVay’s lust for offensive weapons and why Les said he sometimes needs to rein Sean in on draft day.

He’s like a kid in a candy store. But I don’t blame him. He is an offensive coach with a few years left of possibly the best QB he may ever coach. I’d want to get Stafford the best weapons too and would be drooling over the possibilities of adding more elite pass catchers while he still can.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

That's the key question.

IMO, the answer is TE Colston Loveland.

Last year Bowers and Murphy II were speculated and confirmed.
Tetairoa McMillan has been speculated, but not confirmed.

If I were running the Panthers, I'd push that the Rams wanted the guy we selected, too.

For a team that has gone heavily for guys that love the game, McMillian just doesn't sound like a fit based upon information learned during the pre-draft process.

Someone else mentioned the Rams shopping for bigger WR in the past. Could be a clue, but a similarly sized Jayden Higgins with longer arms and a probably a better vertical was still on the board. IMO, McVay was going to get a TE come hell or high water this draft.

Is there really a good reason to doubt that report? After the Panthers took McMillan there were no other reports of the Rams trying to trade up for another player, unlike in the 2024 draft.

 

[RamBradford85]

I read that they wanted tet bad but if rams would give up a kings ransom they would have traded back to 26 that’s why I think I seen Mcvay or Snead say the cost to move up was to high

 

[Memphis Ram]

Is there really a good reason to doubt that report? After the Panthers took McMillan there were no other reports of the Rams trying to trade up for another player, unlike in the 2024 draft.

Of course. What has already been stated is good reason to doubt, plus from what I've seen the main source everyone seemed to piggyback on was from Dianna Russini who herself even stated that teams believed the Rams were eyeing McMilian. I don't recall seeing the teams believed qualifier last year.

And last year, the video the confirmed a lot of the post-draft scuttlebutt didn't come out until mid June on Roku.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Tet was the better much prospect than Loveland (as long as his heads on straight).

I could convince myself why you trade up for him at 8. I don't know that I can convince myself of trading up to 8 for Loveland.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Tet was the better much prospect than Loveland (as long as his heads on straight).

I could convince myself why you trade up for him at 8. I don't know that I can convince myself of trading up to 8 for Loveland.

Not to me. Loveland seemed more rare, IMO. Even as a TE he looked like he has the ability to separate from DBs even better than McMillan. I saw McMillian as more of a jump ball specialist and leaned towards Higgins over him.

But, I wouldn't have and glad the Rams couldn't / didn't trade up for either of them.

 

[20hrswk]

Well, most thought the trade up with Carolina for Braden Fiske was too much for the Rams to give up. After watching Fiske for a year it was clear the Rams were the winners of that trade. Its also reported the 49ers were interested in trading up for TMac. So maybe its just Carolina was dead set on drafting him.

To get Fiske the Rams ended up giving 2024's #52 and #155 as well as 2025's #57.

So it turned out to be a 3-player for Fiske deal.

The list of players the Rams could have drafted with those 3 picks is pretty impressive, especially the #57 in 2025.

I think the jury is still out on the Fiske deal.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Tet was the better much prospect than Loveland (as long as his heads on straight).

I could convince myself why you trade up for him at 8. I don't know that I can convince myself of trading up to 8 for Loveland.

Agreed. That ‘I don’t watch film’ stuff was from a few years ago according to reports. I think his character concerns were overblown. He was the better prospect imo.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Of course. What has already been stated is good reason to doubt, plus from what I've seen the main source everyone seemed to piggyback on was from Dianna Russini who herself even stated that teams believed the Rams were eyeing McMilian. I don't recall seeing the teams believed qualifier last year.

And last year, the video the confirmed a lot of the post-draft scuttlebutt didn't come out until mid June on Roku.

So, the Panthers people are lying? To what end? What do they have to gain by making up a lie that the Rams wanted to trade up for McMillan? It seems counter productive for future relations.

 

[Memphis Ram]

So, the Panthers people are lying? To what end? What do they have to gain by making up a lie that the Rams wanted to trade up for McMillan? It seems counter productive for future relations.

I've not seen where anyone from the Panthers has said that McMillian was the Rams target. I've just seen media speculation from what other teams believed.

Makes sense. Everything I've read in the past is that NFL teams don't tell the other team who they are attempting to go up for for draft day trade up discussions. If I'm not mistaken, Snead may have even said this in an interview awhile back.

And one could make the argument that what could be counter productive for future relations would be any mention of another teams targeted player if they are privy to that private information.

All that said, if my team has had some poor recent drafts and then drafted a WR who had a video out with him stating how he doesn't watch film, it wouldn't hurt to justify the selection from a PR perspective to the fanbase by linking him to a team that has drafted really well recently.

 

[Memphis Ram]

To get Fiske the Rams ended up giving 2024's #52 and #155 as well as 2025's #57.

So it turned out to be a 3-player for Fiske deal.

The list of players the Rams could have drafted with those 3 picks is pretty impressive, especially the #57 in 2025.

I think the jury is still out on the Fiske deal.

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Even if one agrees, it doesn't mean the Rams would have selected the "impressive" players.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Not to me. Loveland seemed more rare, IMO. Even as a TE he looked like he has the ability to separate from DBs even better than McMillan. I saw McMillian as more of a jump ball specialist and leaned towards Higgins over him.

But, I wouldn't have and glad the Rams couldn't / didn't trade up for either of them.

Yeah, I wouldn't have been happy giving up a bunch of draft capital for him, that's for sure. But I guess I could have convinced myself why they did it.