what color is is ball?

[Blue and Gold]

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So do you think the NFL is openly fixing games to the point they're using obviously different balls, or the patriots are openly cheating and using obviously different balls and the refs are too stupid to realize?

I just don't think that's the case.

Did I post that? Did I say the NFL is "openly fixing games?" I know I didn't post that because I've never thought that.

I am asking a question. Are the balls the same shade of brown.

Yes or no?

 

[A55VA6]

Okay, prove it's a lighting issue. I would suggest that you watch the game on NFL replay. I see it. The packers players and coaches noticed it, and all I am doing is seeing if anyone else can see it.

I clearly see the ball the Pats are using is darker. Not really sure it has anything to do with altering the balls air pressure though.

 

[Blue and Gold]

 

[Blue and Gold]

I clearly see the ball the Pats are using is darker. Not really sure it has anything to do with altering the balls air pressure though.

I have not said anything about air pressure. Let's just get the facts first. The K ball, in this instant looks the same color as the one the Packer is carrying in same game. The ones the Pats have in theri hands look darker to me.

 

[Blue and Gold]

 

[Athos]

You know........now that you mention it.

I'm pretty sure BradyBunch has almost always had that big black turd as a football.

 

[Blue and Gold]

You know........now that you mention it.

I'm pretty sure BradyBunch has almost always had that big black turd as a football.

I am looking a shots from other games . . . but have not seen it and I never paid attention, all I know is Packers noticed it. . . Maybe it was something they did for the cold . . . or many it's nothing. My point is when it was pointed out to me, I can see a difference.

When I was a teen ager, we used to snow seal our leather hiking boots, made them more water resistant but also made them very tacky and also darker, not saying that is what is here, but will say it reminds me of that a little bit.

 

[Blue and Gold]

 

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[bluecoconuts]

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Did I post that? Did I say the NFL is "openly fixing games?" I know I didn't post that because I've never thought that.

I am asking a question. Are the balls the same shade of brown.

Yes or no?

In the pictures, it doesn't look like they are, they look older. However there is no rule about that, in fact the only balls that have to be brand new is the 12 footballs that are used in the kicking game. I don't see what the issue is. Teams get to practice with the footballs that they will be using during the game, and get them how they want them to be. This is because in the past the footballs used to come right out of the box to the officials, and it was their job to break them in a bit, get the film off the ball (which is reddish and makes the football lighter), which they did a poor job. So a little over 10 years ago, they decided to allow teams to practice with the footballs that they were going to use during the games, so QB's can get them how they like them.

Brady probably likes them more broken in, so they probably have someone who really rubs them down. Rodgers probably likes them newer (they did say he loves to have them very inflated, as it makes it easier to throw them hard) ones, and thus doesn't break them in as much.


So I'm just not seeing the issue here.

 

[Blue and Gold]

 

[Blue and Gold]

In the pictures, it doesn't look like they are, they look older. However there is no rule about that, in fact the only balls that have to be brand new is the 12 footballs that are used in the kicking game. I don't see what the issue is. Teams get to practice with the footballs that they will be using during the game, and get them how they want them to be. This is because in the past the footballs used to come right out of the box to the officials, and it was their job to break them in a bit, get the film off the ball (which is reddish and makes the football lighter), which they did a poor job. So a little over 10 years ago, they decided to allow teams to practice with the footballs that they were going to use during the games, so QB's can get them how they like them.

Brady probably likes them more broken in, so they probably have someone who really rubs them down. Rodgers probably likes them newer (they did say he loves to have them very inflated, as it makes it easier to throw them hard) ones, and thus doesn't break them in as much.


So I'm just not seeing the issue here.

So you've moved off the "It could be shadows and lighting ...It can also be the surrounding colors that make things seem different." comment to "Brady probably likes them more broken in, so they probably have someone who really rubs them down. Rodgers probably likes them newer (they did say he loves to have them very inflated, as it makes it easier to throw them hard) ones, and thus doesn't break them in as much."?

Just so I am clear on what you are saying.

 

[bluecoconuts]

So you've moved off the "It could be shadows and lighting ...It can also be the surrounding colors that make things seem different." comment to "Brady probably likes them more broken in, so they probably have someone who really rubs them down. Rodgers probably likes them newer (they did say he loves to have them very inflated, as it makes it easier to throw them hard) ones, and thus doesn't break them in as much."?

Just so I am clear on what you are saying.

I'm saying there are a lot of factors to why a ball might be a slightly different color, and the notion that a different hue of brown has a lot of meaning seems silly to me. It can be a combination of all of the above that gives such a stark difference, but if you boil it all down ultimately it leads me to the conclusion that it's all nothing.

 

[Blue and Gold]

 

[Blue and Gold]

I'm saying there are a lot of factors to why a ball might be a slightly different color, and the notion that a different hue of brown has a lot of meaning seems silly to me. It can be a combination of all of the above that gives such a stark difference, but if you boil it all down ultimately it leads me to the conclusion that it's all nothing.

 

[bluecoconuts]

Guess Sam is just as bad then, right?

 

[Blue and Gold]

 

[-X-]

Guess Sam is just as bad then, right?

Well, that one's clearly wet.

 

[A55VA6]

I have not said anything about air pressure. Let's just get the facts first. The K ball, in this instant looks the same color as the one the Packer is carrying in same game. The ones the Pats have in theri hands look darker to me.

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I understand what you're saying, I just thought you were implying that the darker football seen in the Patriots possession was possibly the deflated or altered footballs.

 

[bluecoconuts]

Well, that one's clearly wet.

Overruled.

Besides, we all know they keep those footballs dry enough it wouldn't become that dark from just the rain.