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Cardinals vs. Rams: History between 2 franchises goes far beyond Arizona and St. Louis
By
BigRedBilly on Nov 6 2014
Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports
Rams lead all-time series against the Cardinals, but not by much.
How far do the
Cardinals and the
Rams go back? Quite a ways actually, to October 3, 1937 when the
Chicago Cardinals defeated the
Cleveland Rams 6-0 in a real barn burner. Unfortunately, the Rams turned the tables and lead the all-time series 35-34 with 2 memorable ties thrown in just for fun.
But of course the Rams and the Cardinals have something in common. That first became possible when the Bidwill family moved the team in 1960 that became the
St. Louis Football Cardinals (don't miss the jaw-dropping Terry Metcalf highlight video). Although no championships came through St. Louis (that hasn't happened since the '47 Chicago Cardinals), the team gave many a thrill and over a three-year span ('74-'76), the Cardinals compiled a 31-11 record while establishing a trend that showed itself once again ...
... On a dark, drizzly day at the L.A. Colosseum in 1976, when true to their name, the
Cardiac Cardinals who trailed 21-6 in the 3rd quarter, methodically went about their business (as if it was scripted) to claim a 30-28 victory with a field goal at the buzzer over the
Los Angeles Rams. This game also saw Merlin Olsen (Father Murphy) walk into the Cardinals huddle, wave his finger and say bad things to Conrad Dobler, then walk off the field never to return. Why do I remember this Cardinals/Rams game? I was there.
But before that happened, St. Louis was where this guy played:
The Greatest Cardinal Ever
There was also this Cardinals/Rams playoff game in '75, but we're not gonna talk about that.
Both teams have moved twice since that 1937 thriller between Chicago and Cleveland and now
Your Arizona Cardinals get set to host the
St. Louis Rams in beautiful downtown Glendale.
Arizona leads the series over St.Louis 15-11, which dates back to '96, and broke a three-game losing streak late last year that went back to a game that saw Kevin Kolb get sacked nine times! As if the eight sacks he suffered four days before weren't enough (that's gotta be some kind of a record). If nothing else, the guy deserves a Purple Heart and also why I always gave the benefit of the doubt to Kevin Kolb.
And who can forget a year later in St. Louis when Bruce Arians realized once and for all that #75 wasn't so 'elite' after all.
Something else we have in common of course in a guy named Kurt Warner, who strangely enough never played against the Cardinals as a Ram (0-1 as a Giant).
The Cardinals are 5-3 vs. the Rams at University of Phoenix Stadium and sitting atop the NFC West (and the entire NFL for that matter). We're undefeated at home and face a dangerous division foe Sunday having recently defeated both the
Seahawks and
49ers. Now it's time yet again to snap on the chin-straps for Cardinals vs. Rams.
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Arizona Cardinals '10 times better' prepared for Robert Quinn; St. Louis Rams present 'huge challenge'
By
Jess Root
@senorjessroot on Nov 6 2014
Ralph Freso
Bruce Arians previews the team's next matchup.
Arizona Cardinals head coach Bruce Arians always talks about the team's next matchup on Wednesdays.
When he addressed the media on Wednesday, he called facing the
St. Louis Rams"a huge challenge both offensively and defensively, and special teams."
Arians said "explosive plays on both sides of the ball will be big in this game."
He didn't say much about the Rams offensive attack specifically, but he did mention that St. Louis head coach Jeff Fisher "has never been afraid of pulling the trigger on (trick plays) when he has the right look."
St. Louis has had some success with such plays. They faked a punt against the
Seahawks. They had a punt return fake where
Tavon Austin was on one side of the field pretending to prepare to catch the ball and run, while
Stedman Bailey was on the other side of the field where the ball was actually going. On that play, Bailey scored returned the punt for a touchdown.
Austin and Bailey are guys Arians called "dynamic return guys."
Arians spoke mostly about the Rams defense, though.
"It's very aggressive, very physical, very fast,"
Arians told the media. "One thing (Rams defensive coordinator) Gregg (Williams) has always done is combine three-man fronts with four-man fronts and he does a great job."
The Rams are known for having a fierce pass rush. They started slowly this season, but sacked
49ers quarterback
Colin Kaepernick eight times last week in the Rams' 13-10 win in San Francisco.
And Cardinals fans will remember the 2011 Thursday Night Football game in which St. Louis sacked
Kevin Kolb nine times, sending the Cardinals to their first loss of the season, beginning the tailspin that ended with a 5-11 record and a coaching change.
Arians was asked if the Cardinals need to change anything for the pass rush or if Carson Palmer's internal clock has to speed up.
He responded the offense doesn't have to change much because of the different types of passes they throw. "You have to be able to block them as long as it needs to be to have a completion," he told reporters.
Robert Quinn has been a nightmare in the past for Arizona, but with new left tackle
Jared Veldheer anchoring Palmer's blind side, Arians believes Arizona is "about 10 times better" prepared for what Quinn will bring to the table. In previous years, it was
Bradley Sowell and
Levi Brown.
"Jared's playing solid right now," Arians said. "It's an all-day chore to block (Quinn) and he tore it up again this last week against a pretty good tackle in Joe Staley. And he's not always in the same spot. Gregg (Williams) does a good job of moving him around a little bit."
Quinn will line up inside and outside, so it won't just be Veldheer who will have to hold up against the man who collected 19 sacks a season ago.
What sort of challenge do you expect the Rams to be for the Cardinals? Will this be the Cardinals' first real game pulling away from a team, or will the trend of close games being decided in the fourth quarter continue? Will the Cardinals get caught looking ahead to the
Lions and fall victim to the dreaded "trap game?"
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Well everyone in the Country is chalking this up
as a Cards win and they should. They’re 7-1, but not the typical dominant 7-1 team. The Rams have nothing to lose coming into this game, so it’ll be interesting to see if this is another close one for the cards
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I don't think they should chalk it up as a win.
Anything can happen.
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agreed
right up to the point where you said, "anything can happen". Cause I’ll be damned if the Rams actually think they can pull 5 sacks on Palmer. That’s just ludicrous.
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yee have little faith in our line? I predict 2 sacks at most and an adjustment during the half to keep CP cozey in the pocket.
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sneaky Rams fans
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I think the chalk was earased when they beat the 9'ers
Fisher is excellent in exposing weakness. We’re going to find out this week what our glaring weakness is, especially on offense because Fisher is going to attack it.
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We can't tread lightly on the Rams!
Also, I remember in 2012 when the Bears started 7-1 then went 3-5 and ended up 10-6.
I don’t think that happens to us though with the coaching staff we have to keep everyone in focus. But we have to ignore the outside noise for sure!
Should be a good game on Sunday!
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Interior pressure
I believe our tackles will do relatively well. Quinn is a quick guy who will give Veldheer issues, but I’m more worried about our interior versus Aaron Donald. The rookie is playing great football and could cause a lot of internal pressure against Palmer.
A strong show in the run game is just as important as it was last week. I really wish we had Cooper in this game, his athleticism on the left sidebwith Veldheer against Quinn in the run game would be a favorable matchup.
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I like to think Cooper would be a huge upgrade also, but I have to think Arians knows what he is doing. He is, after all, Coach of the Year so far this season. I think fans focus too much on Cooper’s physical gifts. I suspect Arians is concerned about Cooper’s development in the mental game. He could be great physically, but if he is making mental errors because of his inexperience with this offensive line, it will be very costly.
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Was just getting ready to say the same thing and I saw your post about interior pressure
I think they’re also going to move Quinn inside more then they normally would. Larsen and Fanika better step up this week!
Really sucks that we don’t have Stephan Taylor to help pick up some of these guys.
Agree with Cooper, I really think he would be much more effective this week—continuity aside.
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Trick plays scare me
The fake punt return was just awesome! Although according to Seahawk fans it was a "classless move" by Fisher because when you play Seattle you should just play them "straight up".
What scares me is his real masterpiece of trickery came this last weekend when Tavon actually tricked the refs into believing he wasn’t tackled in the end zone after comming out, thus negating a safety! I have no idea how they pulled that one off but bravo for being the masters of trickery!
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This week has been way too much hype for my taste
Too many in the media are trying to crown the Cards as kings with a 7 – 1 record. 7 – 1 is an excellent start to the season. But it is less than halfway where we really want to go. If you include playoffs, we have more than 10 games left.
So, to hype on the Cards this soon is nuts in my books. Optimistic? Yes of course. Hopeful? We’re more confident of a winning season than prior years. Belief in the Cards? So far, excellent (even after Denver).
But, if they want to stay ahead of everyone else, they have to eliminate all the Media’s attention and puffery and stick to their coaches demands. I sure hope they don’t play tight/worried. The Cards need to be even more aggressive against the Ram’s in all phases of the game on Sunday.
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However, it might just be the fans that don’t wanna jinx it.
I mean, we "should" be on cloud nine, But after all these years and all the trash talk from other teams I just keep thinking "stay humble" and "grateful" for what the Cardinals have givin us up to this point. Don’t be caught off guard if things don’t work out. "IF" we make it to the SB and that’s a big "IF". Then remind yourselves to be that same humble appreciative person and by any means necessary DO NOT become a Seahag fan and run your mouth "IF" victorious.
I’ve seen a lot of people complain about talking heads not giving us credit or headlines. Am I the only one scared that if we DO get those headline we might falter and become those "fans" we all know and hate? They can keep their headlines, I just want the opportunity to play for the Lombardi trophy for a second time this decade.
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I love that we are finally getting some attention. I love that we’ve earned this attention. It’s time for this team to step into the spotlight and find out if they are contenders or pretenders.
I’d rather find out now, then get to 9 wins and fall apart because they can’t handle the success. Pile on the spot light against the Rams and the Lions and lets see if they can handle it!
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I would imagine that
Palmer is going to take at least five sacks. Aaron Donald is in the backfield all the time disrupting almost everything.
Kaep got sacked by four or five different players.
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must be fun living in your "imagination". Cause that isn’t happening this game.
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Tell that to Kaep or Wilson
He’s going to get Kolbed.
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5 sacks ?
Rams have 14 in their last 8 games. Cards have 12 INTs to the Rams 3 so the Cards will…..umm never mind.
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Eagles fans said that too
And they had how many? 0.
I don’t doubt he will get sacked but Palmer isn’t Kolb or Kaep. This season he has been excellent in the pocket but I can see two, maybe three but five is unlikely.
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If Palmer keeps getting the ball out in 2 seconds he wil be fine
Anything longer than that may be a career ender.
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Career ender, season de-railer.
I do admit, it’s something I’m nervous about. Too much good stuff happening with this team. As a long time Cardinals fan I’m half waiting for the rug to come out from under us all.
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I have to agree about the big plays.
The Rams are no slouch and it is going to be difficult to go on long drives against them. We are going to have to do some chucking and ducking to get a lead and make some big plays on defense while the Rams try to catch us from behind.
If not, we certainly run the risk of losing to the NFC West Division Killing Rams.
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This is a big game
National Media Attention or not.
Rams always get up for NFC West games.
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"trap game" ?
You play more than a 1/3 of your games every year against 3 teams. Winning your division is the #1 focus, because thats what gets you to the post season. Your whole draft and roster moves are based on competing against the talent in your division.
Guaranteed no one is taking this game lightly. Its a big game that means more than you think. Don’t necessarily want to say "must", but its a home divisional game. BA will have the troops ready and I’m sure they understand the importance of winning this tough matchup.
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Winning the division is key.
It Really doesn’t matter what we do against other teams from this point forward. If we win our division, we are in with a good seed, maybe the top seed.
Then people can say we are either the best in the division or conference.
The Rams are the division leader’s as far as I know.
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Ram fan here
Just wanted to drop in and wish you guys good luck for this game. Unlike most, I am not shocked at all by the great season you are having. Team has always played hard, now you have a coach and good core of young players, sort of like us except the great coach part. Lets just hope for a good game and no injuries. Our games are always good ones, so I expect more of the same, team with fewest turnovers and penalties wins. Peace brothers!
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This isn't the Cardinals your used to playing....
Rams fans, just to clear it up a bit. I understand you are coming off a great divisional win beating the whiners so BIG PROPS to you guys.. I know ROTB was elated when we beat them as well.
Now, on to my point. I know in years past you’ve had great showings against our team, we always play each other tuff. But, please rest assure that this isn’t the "Cards of old." I appreciate your confidence in your team and it’s what I would expect of any fan base. But our offensive line is WAY better this year. It’s better than SF and SEA and yours. I’m not trying to be calky, I’m just trying to educate a bit.
We had Steve Keim out and about during Free Agency and we pick up a stud of a LT in Veldheer and Bobbie Massie our RT is coming into his own. Our weakness is at the guard position with LG Larsen. He’s serviceable at the moment but in my opinion is only holding on to his job because it "ain’t broken yet". and I’m sure the Rams will be trying like hell to take advantage of that weakness. A part of me hopes you succeed in showing Larson up so we can get our real guard back in their that we picked up in last years draft. The name’s Coop… You may not know it now, but trust me you will…
We also have this guy named Bruce… He’s a cool customer and does a great job with adjusting at the half. So, while I’m optimistic we will plan accordingly to stop your pass rush I think you guys may get a sack or two in the first half. After that, game over…. Bruce and the boys will adapt and overcome and hopefully a wish will be granted and you get your introduction to Mr. Cooper!
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more worried about Rams run d then pass rush
and if our secondary, which is young and hurting, can make some plays and did I mention which Austin Davis shows up?? the one who can manage a game, or the one that will heave two picks and cough up a fumble running for his life lol Rams fans used to having bad QB’s
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one thing for sure
I moved to the valley in 05 and have been a Card fan since. Now a season ticket holder. One thing for sure, don’t leave early or change the channel until the games over. Last game against Eagles my wife was having heart palpitations (me too) Down to the last second. Watching the Cards play is not for the feint of heart and that goes back to the Warner years.
The Rams are built to play in the NFC west and they’re going to play us HARD. We’ll win because we’re the better team, but I’m not planing on leaving early.
