What Cardinals Fans Are Saying(Part 2)

[Prime Time]

https://www.arizonasportsfans.com/f...aying-worse-than-jared-goff-right-now.291596/

No starting quarterback is playing worse than Jared Goff right now

Goff did not look good last night. Maybe the Rams have peaked?
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https://www.arizonasportsfans.com/f...arizona-cardinals-pregame-thread-2018.291588/

Week 16- Los Angeles Rams @ Arizona Cardinals Pregame thread, 2018


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Please forfeit and save us the embarrassment
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This game could get real ugly

Rams looking to right the ship after 2 losses
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Rams have an incentive after these losses. Home field advantage and byes are in play.
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I will watch the Cards first offensive drive only,,,they will probably score that early, and then the wheels will fall off again. The Rams have a sore azz from last night, so it will get ugly fast for the Cards. Rams > 37 Cards > 10
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I hope the Rams score 40, nobody gets hurt and Larry gets his catches. Other than that, blah...
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The Rams are gonna be pissed after the way they've played the last two weeks. Wouldn't be surprised if they dropped 60 on us
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https://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/threads/anybody-want-my-rams-tickets.291568/

Anybody want my Rams tickets??

Make an offer
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You’re going to pay me how much again to take them? :lol:
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Feel bad for people with Rams players on their team in the championship. A 1st quarter blowout sounds about right for next week's game
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So you would not be a fan of the Lions vs Gladiators?

If Card fans show up, I would love to see a mass display of thumbs down.
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don’t miss out on this game of the year folks
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I'll take them. I'm sure my son can find some teammates that would love to go to a Cardinals game. Especially what might be the last chance to see Fitz play.
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If I was in Arizona, I'd definitely be there... just because why not and my Dad and I always go to the game if they're in town when I am.

But I'm surprised more people aren't going just to possibly see Larry's last game at home. I don't think there's much of a chance in hell of coming back and I wish I could see his last stand and hear the LARRY, LARRY, LARRY chant one final time reverberate through the stadium.
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http://arizonacardinals.freeforums.net/thread/959/goff-comparison

The Goff Comparison

Everyone is arguing that Rosen’s poor performance this year can be solved if we replace Wilks with an offensive guru.

Breakdown:
GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int

Goff 2016:
7 0-7-0 112 205 54.6 1089 5 7

Rosen so far:
11 3-8-0 187 336 55.7 2042 10 14

With only 4 more games than Goff, Rosen has doubled both rookie Goffs yards, touchdowns, and interceptions. He has also done so with a slightly better completion percentage.

Additionally, Goff was working with a similar arsenal of weapons: a good running back (Gurley) and a subpar WR corps (Kenny Britt had a 1000 yard season).

I think people need to relax with the David Carr damage comparison, and realize that Rosen has a lot of confidence, exuded clearly on draft day. He will love trying a revenge year with a new coach that tailors the offense to him. That’s what our worry should be right now; not that Rosen is broken.

Let the rookie play it out; he’s tough, and you will only damage the most important trait—his self confidence—if you bench him.
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The point of this thread was not to say Rosen is a guaranteed QB of the future. Honestly, Goff is not a great QB to be compared to—when McVays scheme breaks down, Goff seems flustered and breakdowns with it. The last few weeks, especially last night, showcase that Goff is not the next Tom Brady.

Nevertheless, Rosen can be a great system quarterback. And that can win you Super Bowls in this league—look what the eagles accomplished last year.
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Rosen is better than Goff the last three weeks, wrap your head around that! Goff has the lowest QBR these last three weeks, with 1 TD and 7 INTs!

 

[fearsomefour]

The Cardinals had something like 7 rookies starting on O last week.
If the Rams D, led by the brilliant Wade, allows 20 or more points to this O they are one and done come play off time with no doubt.

 

[Jacobarch]

I wouldnt sleep on the Cards right now. Their fans are down and out but teams are dangerous when they have nothing to play for except pride. Rams better bring it.

 

[Corbin]

The Cardinals had something like 7 rookies starting on O last week.
If the Rams D, led by the brilliant Wade, allows 20 or more points to this O they are one and done come play off time with no doubt.

Sadly it’s not the Defebse I’m worried about! If they don’t score more than 24 we are 1 and done. Need these two games to right the ship!

 

[Jacobarch]

I don't know how you right the ship on Defense. We've had the same issues with our D all year. It wont be fixed until the offseason. Some dudes gotta go.

 

[DVontel]

I wouldnt sleep on the Cards right now. Their fans are down and out but teams are dangerous when they have nothing to play for except pride. Rams better bring it.

Nah, sleep on them all you want to. The team is ass in every facet of the game.

 

[Jacobarch]

Nah, sleep on them all you want to. The team is ass in every facet of the game.

Glad you aren't the Rams HC lol

 

[Karate61]

Anybody want my Rams tickets??

So. I was planning on buying tickets and going to the Cards vs. Rams game. I have gone every year since moving to Phoenix area from the OC in 2013.

However, after last week's loss to the Eagles, I'm feeling really down on the Rams. Bummed out how things have gone the last month. I'm sure some others feel that way here.

So, any recommendations? Should I push off the heebue jeebies, and get tickets and go, or just say fuck it?

 

[Ramrocket]

So. I was planning on buying tickets and going to the Cards vs. Rams game. I have gone every year since moving to Phoenix area from the OC in 2013.

However, after last week's loss to the Eagles, I'm feeling really down on the Rams. Bummed out how things have gone the last month. I'm sure some others feel that way here.

So, any recommendations? Should I push off the heebue jeebies, and get tickets and go, or just say freak it?

Go all in Karate. We'll bounce back.

 

[FrantikRam]

After how we've played these last three weeks, we have absolutely no reason to be confident going into this game. It should be an easy win, but..

 

[Ramlock]

So. I was planning on buying tickets and going to the Cards vs. Rams game. I have gone every year since moving to Phoenix area from the OC in 2013.

However, after last week's loss to the Eagles, I'm feeling really down on the Rams. Bummed out how things have gone the last month. I'm sure some others feel that way here.

So, any recommendations? Should I push off the heebue jeebies, and get tickets and go, or just say freak it?

Get your tickets and a big ass tub of popcorn!

Hey, the wife and I are flying halfway across the country to go to the 9er game.

 

[Liberator]

I don't know how you right the ship on Defense. We've had the same issues with our D all year. It wont be fixed until the offseason. Some dudes gotta go.

Only way we win in the playoffs is turnovers because our defense can still create those. Otherwise we are done for sure.

 

[dieterbrock]

What exactly is a "Cardinals Fan"??
Is that really a thing?

 

[fearsomefour]

I don't know how you right the ship on Defense. We've had the same issues with our D all year. It wont be fixed until the offseason. Some dudes gotta go.

I agree.
This is the defense we have this year.
Just not allowing stupid brain fart huge plays like letting two Eagles WR run free behind the D would be nice.
That and solid tackling would go a long way.

 

[Rambitious1]

https://www.arizonasportsfans.com/f...aying-worse-than-jared-goff-right-now.291596/

No starting quarterback is playing worse than Jared Goff right now

Goff did not look good last night. Maybe the Rams have peaked?
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Week 16- Los Angeles Rams @ Arizona Cardinals Pregame thread, 2018


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Please forfeit and save us the embarrassment
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This game could get real ugly

Rams looking to right the ship after 2 losses
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Rams have an incentive after these losses. Home field advantage and byes are in play.
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I will watch the Cards first offensive drive only,,,they will probably score that early, and then the wheels will fall off again. The Rams have a sore azz from last night, so it will get ugly fast for the Cards. Rams > 37 Cards > 10
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I hope the Rams score 40, nobody gets hurt and Larry gets his catches. Other than that, blah...
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The Rams are gonna be ticked after the way they've played the last two weeks. Wouldn't be surprised if they dropped 60 on us
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https://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/threads/anybody-want-my-rams-tickets.291568/

Anybody want my Rams tickets??

Make an offer
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You’re going to pay me how much again to take them? :lol:
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Feel bad for people with Rams players on their team in the championship. A 1st quarter blowout sounds about right for next week's game
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So you would not be a fan of the Lions vs Gladiators?

If Card fans show up, I would love to see a mass display of thumbs down.
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don’t miss out on this game of the year folks
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I'll take them. I'm sure my son can find some teammates that would love to go to a Cardinals game. Especially what might be the last chance to see Fitz play.
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If I was in Arizona, I'd definitely be there... just because why not and my Dad and I always go to the game if they're in town when I am.

But I'm surprised more people aren't going just to possibly see Larry's last game at home. I don't think there's much of a chance in hell of coming back and I wish I could see his last stand and hear the LARRY, LARRY, LARRY chant one final time reverberate through the stadium.
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http://arizonacardinals.freeforums.net/thread/959/goff-comparison

The Goff Comparison

Everyone is arguing that Rosen’s poor performance this year can be solved if we replace Wilks with an offensive guru.

Breakdown:
GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int

Goff 2016:
7 0-7-0 112 205 54.6 1089 5 7

Rosen so far:
11 3-8-0 187 336 55.7 2042 10 14

With only 4 more games than Goff, Rosen has doubled both rookie Goffs yards, touchdowns, and interceptions. He has also done so with a slightly better completion percentage.

Additionally, Goff was working with a similar arsenal of weapons: a good running back (Gurley) and a subpar WR corps (Kenny Britt had a 1000 yard season).

I think people need to relax with the David Carr damage comparison, and realize that Rosen has a lot of confidence, exuded clearly on draft day. He will love trying a revenge year with a new coach that tailors the offense to him. That’s what our worry should be right now; not that Rosen is broken.

Let the rookie play it out; he’s tough, and you will only damage the most important trait—his self confidence—if you bench him.
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The point of this thread was not to say Rosen is a guaranteed QB of the future. Honestly, Goff is not a great QB to be compared to—when McVays scheme breaks down, Goff seems flustered and breakdowns with it. The last few weeks, especially last night, showcase that Goff is not the next Tom Brady.

Nevertheless, Rosen can be a great system quarterback. And that can win you Super Bowls in this league—look what the eagles accomplished last year.
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Rosen is better than Goff the last three weeks, wrap your head around that! Goff has the lowest QBR these last three weeks, with 1 TD and 7 INTs!

QBR???????
QBR=Bovine Feces

 

[Adi]

Our guys need to stop this team , set the tone for the rest of the season !

This should be a big day for AD and hopefully someone else shows up with a sack or 2.

 

[-X-]

R.I.P. Josh Rosen.

 

[RhodyRams]

These last 2 games are perfect for the team to get their swagger back and head into the playoffs with the confidence they had 6-8 weeks ago.

 

[snackdaddy]

I'm pretty sure we win this game. Cards are that bad on offense. But if they make it close by moving the ball on our defense and slowing down our offense, I think the concerns we have would be legitimate. As bad as the offense and Goff has looked lately, my biggest concern is the defense.

The offense was really good for the first 11 games. We can have some hope they work their way through it and return to a high caliber unit. They've shown what they can do.

The defense on the other hand was rarely good and looked bad again last game. It was embarrassing to see two receivers downfield at the same spot so wide open they looked like punt returners waiting for a return. This performance is during week 15 at a time when they're the healthiest they've been most the season. At some point you gotta think that is who the defense is.

 

[Prime Time]

https://www.revengeofthebirds.com/2...-start-against-los-angeles-rams-but-should-he

Josh Rosen will start against Los Angeles Rams, but should he?
The Arizona Cardinals will start their rookie quarterback against the Rams, but should they do it?
By Seth Cox

Photo by Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images

Six sacks in week 15.

Three sacks in week 14.

Two sacks in week 13.

Josh Rosen has been sacked 11 times in the month of December, add to that the fact he has been hit another 20 times in the last three games and you begin to see why there are questions about whether or not Rosen should be playing.

The quarterback for the Cardinals is getting hit or sacked an average of 10 times each game over the last three games.

They have faced only one top ten pass rush in that time, the Green Bay Packers, and it was the only time they kept the slaughter under double digits.

Josh Rosen has been pounded into the ground at an alarming rate.

Yet, it seemed like an easy call to keep Rosen in the lineup for the last two games of the 2018 season, even as he was putting up worse and worse numbers each week.

Now though, it has piqued my interest of whether or not the abuse Rosen will take at the hands of the LA Rams and Seattle Seahawks outweighs the potential positives that can come from playing.

Rosen’s ascension to starter was not one we were supposed to see in 2018, or at least that early, but the team needed a jolt and looked to the rookie to provide it.

Now, nearly 12 weeks later, the team is in far worse shape, with a number of players who will lucky to be on rosters in 2019, taking the majority of the offensive snaps each and every week.

Rosen’s play has declined as the games have gotten more and more out of hand.

While he has some blame for those lopsided losses, much of it lays at the feet of the coaching staff and team that has been put around him.

And, if Rosen is truly the centerpiece to which they wish to rebuild, is it smart letting him get his brains beat in the next two weeks?

Or would putting Mike Glennon up as a sacrificial lamb make more sense?

The competitor in Rosen will not let him step back, but maybe it should not be his call.
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Keep him as far away from the Rams as possible...
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Rosen should absolutely NOT play against the Rams!!!

It’s an injury waiting to happen.
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I wouldn't even put a cardboard printout of Rosen behind this O-line..
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I’ve wanted to see this weeks ago. Because at pro football focus they rate the Card’s O-line at 32nd out of 32 teams — dead last.

So lets please end this horrifying slaughter. Didn’t Rosen get 2 concussions last year at UCLA?
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2 hrs of game time left in the season won’t benefit him at all. Just let the kid sit and throw the giraffe to the wolves.
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Wonder what the Vegas odds are of Donald/Suh breaking his sternum? Not that we want that to happen.

Good thing he doesn’t have any history of Concussions…
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Put in Wilks at QB
I would pay my life savings to see him yell about "execution" while getting pile driven by darnold.
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It’s obvious to me…
The Cardinals should be starting Nick Foles. They’d probably still be eligible to win the Super Bowl this year if he was starting.
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I damn guarentee the Rams will break him.
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If Rosen dies, do we get any compensatory picks?

I’d much prefer the #1 overall pick in 2020, so maybe we can work something out.
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All passes should be from the shotgun vs. the Rams
Rosen should be instructed to throw it into the stands if nobody gets open in two seconds. And JJ Nelson should be the target on 90% of the passes. He won’t be back next year, so if the Rams are going to beat up on any of our skill players, we should give them Nelson as the sacrificial lamb…