Wes Welker wants disability

[FaulkSF]

Disability should be for those that can't work like it is for us. Besides, isn't his gripe a work comp issue?

Sounds like he's referring to a claim for permanent disability. CTEs, hips and knees are probably incredibly achy and make him moody judging by his comments. He's probably gobbling painkillers by the mouthful each morning.

The concept is to receive benefits for how you were before the injuries. In Welker's case, what is the difference between his symptoms and the average 40 year old? He then needs the documentation from his physicians to prove his injuries were directly from football and not attributed to say an ATV accident or shooting fireworks off in your hand.

Either he tossed out the documents or his agent sucks. Maybe both.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Disability should be for those that can't work like it is for us. Besides, isn't his gripe a work comp issue?

The article said disability. If its workers compensation or disability practically every player in the game has a claim. I can't imagine any insurance company signing up for that.

 

[RamUK]

 

[rdlkgliders]

The article said disability. If its workers compensation or disability practically every player in the game has a claim. I can't imagine any insurance company signing up for that.

I should read the article, LOL.
I was going off personal experience in CA,
In California, all employers must carry work Comp insurance even if they only have 1 employee is what I remember.
The NFL likely is registered in a legally friendly state. Again I should read the article
Either way, he likely doesn't need to essentially take from a system that has a population that helped to bring him financial success

 

[jrry32]

Yeah, the shit I’ve had to go thru included nearly ending up homeless because I fought my way back from being bedridden to holding a full time job and going to school. When I just couldn’t take it anymore, it took 18 months and going before an ALJ (administrative law judge) to get my benefits back. The ALJ was so pissed looking at my record that he gave me the max he could… turns out the place that did me dirty as an outplacement for the VA was so shady that people went to jail…

Vets have to go thru such bullshit and are outright called welfare queens (which is not only emasculating, but totally negates our service and sacrifice) and entitled babies or worse, a faker… been called that and even worse to my face… read other vets having much worse said to them… sometimes by private medical practitioners.

Provide more documentation?

He should try and file a VA disability claim where they ask for reams of paperwork that they already have, but we still have to provide them…

Sorry, this struck a nerve…

A bit weird that people are angry at Welker for pointing out how shitty this system is because other systems are even shittier, instead of angry that all these systems are so shitty. Basically, I think y'all's anger is misplaced.

 

[jrry32]

Disability should be for those that can't work like it is for us. Besides, isn't his gripe a work comp issue?

It's the NFL's disability benefits plan. The Players' Union bargained for it, and he has every right to make use of it. He's following the correct process, and the NFL's plan has been repeatedly criticized in the past for screwing over former players. Do you think people are more likely to pay attention if Wes Welker speaks up or if Kenneth Darby speaks up?

Opinion: On NFL disability, some players say 'Delay, deny and hope we die' remains true

The NFL's benefits plan has a long history of delaying and denying payments to its former players. One player called it "delay, deny and hope we die."

www.usatoday.com

 

[rdlkgliders]

It's the NFL's disability benefits plan. The Players' Union bargained for it, and he has every right to make use of it. He's following the correct process, and the NFL's plan has been repeatedly criticized in the past for screwing over former players. Do you think people are more likely to pay attention if Wes Welker speaks up or if Kenneth Darby speaks up?

Opinion: On NFL disability, some players say 'Delay, deny and hope we die' remains true

The NFL's benefits plan has a long history of delaying and denying payments to its former players. One player called it "delay, deny and hope we die."

www.usatoday.com

Thanks, as I said I didn't read the complaint. Your explanation makes perfect sense. Shame that something negotiated will now be argued but as you well know this is sometimes the process. I have actually been reading quite a bit of contractual language for work. It is so verbose and almost always at the end left to the benefit of either party dependent upon interpretation of the language.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

A bit weird that people are angry at Welker for pointing out how shitty this system is because other systems are even shittier, instead of angry that all these systems are so shitty. Basically, I think y'all's anger is misplaced.

He's a multi millionaire. What does he need more money for?

If he wants the disability so bad then he should provide whatever is required to get it, not get angry that he has complete the process, and just complain about it. You are a lawyer. I'd think you'd agree with that part at least.

And, he's still able to work. There are ex NFL players that can barely get out of bed, isn't that the group that would be considered disabled?

 

[jrry32]

He's a multi millionaire. What does he need more money for?

If he wants the disability so bad then he should provide whatever is required to get it, not get angry that he has complete the process, and just complain about it. You are a lawyer. I'd think you'd agree with that part at least.

It doesn't matter if he "needs" the money. He's entitled to it per the terms of the deal the NFL struck with the union. It's one of his benefits. What the NFL is doing and has done (if you read the article I posted) is creating unnecessary hurdles and barriers to delay and deny paying out money they owe. It's a shitty system that has harmed a lot of guys who don't have the voice Welker does. Why shouldn't he use his voice to bring attention to a wrong?

They screwed Mike Webster. He had to take them to court. He won his case and got his benefits . . . years after his death. This isn't new. But the NFL keeps promising to do better. It seems yet again that they aren't.

And, he's still able to work. There are ex NFL players that can barely get out of bed, isn't that the group that would be considered disabled?

Those players are entitled to the benefits Welker is seeking and additional benefits. Don't you think they deserve a fair, efficient process?

 

[Mackeyser]

A bit weird that people are angry at Welker for pointing out how shitty this system is because other systems are even shittier, instead of angry that all these systems are so shitty. Basically, I think y'all's anger is misplaced.

Nah, not misplaced… every disability system has documentation requirements… but what they’re asking for is pretty easy in the grand scheme of things…

It’s one thing to complain it’s inconvenient, it’s another to take umbrage… and if he had other lesser known players in mind, that makes more sense, but I hadn’t read that

 

[Classic Rams]

Yeah it's annoying to have to dig up paperwork, which sounds like part of Welker's gripe. These days companies require proof before handing money out, it only makes sense. I had to provide insurance info just recently because I was double paying in 2 instances. Vehicle and home insurance. Had to go back and forth with companies and it was a great hassle. But I wasn't going to get compensated unless I showed verification so I had to follow the steps and wait. Throw in having to solve car registration problems when in a new state. At the time I was thinking what a hassle! But after providing all of the info, speaking to numerous reps, and then getting the money I was owed, it's now a relief.

 

[LouisvilleRam]

If he's doing it for money he should have hung onto some of those 100 dollar bills he was handing out after he hit it big at the derby years ago

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

It doesn't matter if he "needs" the money. He's entitled to it per the terms of the deal the NFL struck with the union. It's one of his benefits. What the NFL is doing and has done (if you read the article I posted) is creating unnecessary hurdles and barriers to delay and deny paying out money they owe. It's a shitty system that has harmed a lot of guys who don't have the voice Welker does. Why shouldn't he use his voice to bring attention to a wrong?

They screwed Mike Webster. He had to take them to court. He won his case and got his benefits . . . years after his death. This isn't new. But the NFL keeps promising to do better. It seems yet again that they aren't.


Those players are entitled to the benefits Welker is seeking and additional benefits. Don't you think they deserve a fair, efficient process?

The crippled ones deserve it. I never said they didn’t. Welker is working and not crippled.
Why does he need it? Why does he deserve it? If are healthy and able to work and try to get disability they’d laugh at you.

I don’t think Welker is doing this to be a martyr and draw attention to the process. If that is what he did, then it was a lame and half hearted attempt.

 

[jrry32]

The crippled ones deserve it. I never said they didn’t. Welker is working and not crippled.
Why does he need it? Why does he deserve it? If are healthy and able to work and try to get disability they’d laugh at you.

I don’t think Welker is doing this to be a martyr and draw attention to the process. If that is what he did, then it was a lame and half hearted attempt.

He isn't applying for the disability program for players who are unable to work. He deserves it because the NFLPA bargained for all the former players, including him, to have access to it.

 

[jrry32]

Nah, not misplaced… every disability system has documentation requirements… but what they’re asking for is pretty easy in the grand scheme of things…

It’s one thing to complain it’s inconvenient, it’s another to take umbrage… and if he had other lesser known players in mind, that makes more sense, but I hadn’t read that

Is it, though? They're asking for proof that post-career surgeries were necessary because of injuries suffered during the career. And based on their history, they aren't doing this because they're truly concerned.

 

[OldSchool]

And if he qualifies for the program he should get it as should any former player if they meet the criteria.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

He isn't applying for the disability program for players who are unable to work. He deserves it because the NFLPA bargained for all the former players, including him, to have access to it.

Opinion: On NFL disability, some players say 'Delay, deny and hope we die' remains true

The NFL's benefits plan has a long history of delaying and denying payments to its former players. One player called it "delay, deny and hope we die."

www.usatoday.com

While the process is immensely complicated, essentially players are eligible to receive disability payments up to $138,000 a year from the league if they are deemed unable to work due to injuries sustained while playing in the NFL.

Isn’t this the NFL disability?

 

[Pancake]

If the benefits are to be paid to a person who has become disabled because of injuries sustained during their playing career. How does he qualify if he is currently employed and is totally capable of working?

 

[rdlkgliders]

I have to applaud a union that negotiates a deal like this on behalf of its membership. No matter how we view the players they are still a small piece of the pie and the catalyst for our viewership.

 

[Mackeyser]

It doesn't matter if he "needs" the money. He's entitled to it per the terms of the deal the NFL struck with the union. It's one of his benefits. What the NFL is doing and has done (if you read the article I posted) is creating unnecessary hurdles and barriers to delay and deny paying out money they owe. It's a shitty system that has harmed a lot of guys who don't have the voice Welker does. Why shouldn't he use his voice to bring attention to a wrong?

They screwed Mike Webster. He had to take them to court. He won his case and got his benefits . . . years after his death. This isn't new. But the NFL keeps promising to do better. It seems yet again that they aren't.


Those players are entitled to the benefits Welker is seeking and additional benefits. Don't you think they deserve a fair, efficient process?

Fair about Mike Webster… they did him super dirty even as he made a solid living in the NFL