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"big name" probably just means someone with a lot of letters in their name.
 

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PhxRam said:
"big name" probably just means someone with a lot of letters in their name.
Maybe we can lure Chris Fuamatu-Ma'afala out of retirement.
 

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We have to give our original pick which is #16...and a new contract...then the giants have the right to march that contract and they get to retain him...so if the rams really want him they have to give him a FAT deal so the giants won't want to sign him then the trade goes tru...BEEFY
 

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I still say it'd be worth it. I feel like we won't get Cruz's talent level with whoever we could draft with the 16th pick... Just my opinion though. I say make a push for him.
 

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So I guess I'm one of the few people here that would be absolutely livid if we sign Cruz? There's no reason to give up Pick #16. If you want to go big, go big on another need and address WR in the draft.
 

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Matthew Shaughnessy is a fairly big name. It even has a few unnecessary letters in it. :whome?:
 

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A55VA6 said:
I still say it'd be worth it. I feel like we won't get Cruz's talent level with whoever we could draft with the 16th pick... Just my opinion though. I say make a push for him.

We can get Tavon Austin so...false. :p
 

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jrry32 said:
So I guess I'm one of the few people here that would be absolutely livid if we sign Cruz? There's no reason to give up Pick #16. If you want to go big, go big on another need and address WR in the draft.

I like Cruz but not at that cost. I have said many times that I don't want us to break the bank over ANY FA. I realize we may very well go after a high dollar player but I would be shocked if we gave up our #16 AND the contract we all know Victor will expect. We're not the Redskins - Thank God.
 

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So I guess I'm one of the few people here that would be absolutely livid if we sign Cruz? There's no reason to give up Pick #16. If you want to go big, go big on another need and address WR in the draft.

Im with you. If we sacrifice a 1st and get Cruz on a rookie deal, I be ok with it. However we are essentially giving up a 1st round pick for the right to negotiate with a guy that will be a UFA next year. No thanks
 

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So I guess I'm one of the few people here that would be absolutely livid if we sign Cruz? There's no reason to give up Pick #16. If you want to go big, go big on another need and address WR in the draft.

I don't think you'd be livid after Sam throws an 80 yard TD to CRUUUUUUUUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. :boing:

Oh gosh...Victor Cruz and Chris Givens on the same team. :shock: :shock: :shock:

I doubt it happens but I wouldn't be upset. Not my money...or picks.
 

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Let us draft another WR and watch him develop next year while at halftime we watch victor's highlights and cry.....
 

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jrry32 said:
A55VA6 said:
I still say it'd be worth it. I feel like we won't get Cruz's talent level with whoever we could draft with the 16th pick... Just my opinion though. I say make a push for him.

We can get Tavon Austin so...false. :p
Austin is good, but Cruz is a proven player. Tavon Austin could be another Donnie Avery.. you never know.
 

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A55VA6 said:
jrry32 said:
A55VA6 said:
I still say it'd be worth it. I feel like we won't get Cruz's talent level with whoever we could draft with the 16th pick... Just my opinion though. I say make a push for him.

We can get Tavon Austin so...false. :p
Austin is good, but Cruz is a proven player. Tavon Austin could be another Donnie Avery.. you never know.
I really don't see *any* comparison between Austin and Avery. Two entirely different types of receivers, and Austin has a ton more in his arsenal. If anything, I'd be worried about Austin becoming the next Dante Hall. All-around skilled player, but no real impact on anything other than special teams.
 

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Even if the Rams want Cruz, why should they surrender a first round pick? We need multiple players and have a limited salary budget.

We need to solidify the OL and add two starting safeties (probably 1 by FA and the other by draft). Sure we need receivers, but we only have three now. We can't throw all the money at one guy with other needs to fill.
 

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A55VA6 said:
jrry32 said:
A55VA6 said:
I still say it'd be worth it. I feel like we won't get Cruz's talent level with whoever we could draft with the 16th pick... Just my opinion though. I say make a push for him.

We can get Tavon Austin so...false. :p
Austin is good, but Cruz is a proven player. Tavon Austin could be another Donnie Avery.. you never know.

Completely agree with you. There "could" be some good receiver(s) in the draft, but we know Cruz IS a good receiver. I say give up a first, if that's what it takes, and get Cruz and give him a nice contract. If he's a good sport, give him a large roster bonus in year 2 so that we can still pick up a solid RT free agent as well!
 

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I'm not really comparing him to Donnie, I'm just saying we all thought Donnie was going to be great and... we all know what happened. I mean if we draft Tavon Austin, I'd be happy. I like him alot.. mainly because of his speed and YAC. But when the Rams draft WR's.. they just seem to never work out.. or they are a project. But if we bring in a player like Cruz... that changes everything. He's proven. He's the #1 guy. Sam will have his guy. I'm sick of bringing in rookie after rookie and they just become some okay/somewhat productive slot guy.
 

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Why do I seem to recall Cruz having questionable hands? Seems like I watched more then a few games where he had the dropsies.
 

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A55VA6 said:
I still say it'd be worth it. I feel like we won't get Cruz's talent level with whoever we could draft with the 16th pick... Just my opinion though. I say make a push for him.


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@Edro_41 There are better receivers in the draft then Victor Cruz and the 31 other teams recognize that. Giving a 1st rd pick for him..NO!
 

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A55VA6 said:
I'm not really comparing him to Donnie, I'm just saying we all thought Donnie was going to be great and... we all know what happened. I mean if we draft Tavon Austin, I'd be happy. I like him alot.. mainly because of his speed and YAC. But when the Rams draft WR's.. they just seem to never work out.. or they are a project. But if we bring in a player like Cruz... that changes everything. He's proven. He's the #1 guy. Sam will have his guy. I'm sick of bringing in rookie after rookie and they just become some okay/somewhat productive slot guy.
Fair enough. And I agree with you.
Cruz is 26 and knows how to play in the NFL.
( _______ ) is 23 or 24, and hasn't played a down in the NFL.

The only variable would be salary.

Cruz is gonna get paid.
( ________ ) is gonna take what his draft slot dictates.
What if the draft pick WAY outperforms anyone in the NFL in terms of production?
That's the risk you take with the draft, I guess. Gotta have a keen eye for talent.