It wasnt pretty, but the D did enough to win the game. The refs calling a phantom PI when Nix threw a pick as the deciding factor. It sucks when the refs fuck up a good game by giving the game away.
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This is the vent thread, not the invent thread. We could point to many factors, leading to and including don't put yourself in position to be beat by the refs. But when a guy makes a great play with 1:09 left in the game, virtually sealing the victory, none of those factors matter. You should have won the game. Period. You didn't win because of a blatent bad call. They took a great play, much like Curl's pick in Chicago, and robbed the kid and the team. If they can replay-assist an incomplete pass they should be able to replay assist a great play and phantom call.
You can overcome one, but not both. Ferguson going out too did not help. Still felt should have had Atwell activated, IMO, that would have provided another option. Losing Watson and the PI call that wasn't I guess that crew felt it was time to give a make up call back to Asshole Face.
For some odd reason I did not lose it after that call, I just felt the Refs were going to be another reason to lose this game that should have never been in jeopardy.
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I know stats are for losers and statistically the Rams dominated this game but in examining said stats the the two that most determined the outcome are: the already mentioned penalties Rams 13 for 91 yards while Den 5 for 38. And red zone Rams 1 for 4 and Den 3 for 3. Gotta convert a whole lot better there.
Im with you guys, i let shit like this make me too damn mad. Its not worth it. These losses eat at my love for football. Im too old for self inflicted misery. Football is supposed to be entertaining and fun. Last night was anything but.
Mumpfields TD was due to a piss poor play by the CB. That CB should have been toasted by our receivers all game long.
However, Mumpfield is just a JAG who can block. I can see him being in the game on first downs and second or third and short.
But second or third and long and we need another WR who can break pass defenses.
Not arguing about the lack of depth. But most third WRs around the league are not game breakers. But Mumpfield made THREE consecutive critical receptions. Hard to discount that. I'm not sold, but it was big.
It wasn't just the interference / interception play. The illegal hands to the face was also a real ticky tack call to try and ensure a winner. The rams had multiple drive killing calls. I believe the broncos had 1 non procedural penalty all game..
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While I agree the refs were bad, we're ultimately to blame for that loss.
For me, that pick six by Stafford was the killer. That was a throw that you'd expect a rookie QB to make.
My expectations have been lowered for the rest of the season and maybe that's a good thing. I still believe they can be a playoff team. Now everyone needs to get to work!
For me, that pick six by Stafford was the killer. That was a throw that you'd expect a rookie QB to make.
My expectations have been lowered for the rest of the season and maybe that's a good thing. I still believe they can be a playoff team. Now everyone needs to get to work!
The D actually should have only allowed 16 points. 7 came on a pick 6 and 7 came on a play that should have never happened.
And still we were in position to win despite all that went against us.
It was a third downplay. I’m wondering if Wallace would’ve dropped that interception if the refs would’ve just made it a no call. Refs might’ve been OK with a game tying field goal but were not ready to make it a game ending interception.
Honestly, when Denver converted the first two point try, I had a feeling we would lose. Denver has "Seattle magic", they brought their entire team back from last year so them being down 16 probably calmed them if anything with the number of times they have been in this type of situation.
I'm really, truly not even mad this morning. Typically, when teams get hosed on a call that badly, it can be tough to overcome....but we did. We stopped them on three plays and would have forced a FG, only for that hands to the face call to be made. This is the verbiage according to google:
Close-Line Play vs. Open Field: During close-line play, contact to the head/neck area is only a foul if it is direct, forcible, or prolonged/sustained enough to pin the opponent's head back
It was definitely not forcible or prolonged - I'm fairly sure that just wasn't a foul, at all.
So, the fact that we overcame the first bad call was awesome. Our defense stepped up. The only other two scoring drives we allowed, I blame special teams just as much as the defense if not more for allowing them the starting field position.
We need an NFL caliber punter. He had ONE good punt the entire game.....does Evans have pictures of McVay or something at this point? I get most of his decisions for culture, scheme and probably reasons we don't see like practice for the WR depth or CB depth - but we could easily cut Evans today and pick up a new punter with experience.
He booms one to the dead center of the field which of course yields a good return. We punt from Broncos territory and they call fair catch at the 13....that is unacceptable in my book. If we're punting from their territory, it needs to be inside the 10 at MINIMUM, preferably inside the 5.
The one punt he did have, Forbes has a penalty which, while I agree with the penalty I also bet there were ten instances of that not called this weekend.
But ultimately, its whatever. I had this game marked as an L. I'll be making a thread shortly for more positivity.
I'm really, truly not even mad this morning. Typically, when teams get hosed on a call that badly, it can be tough to overcome....but we did. We stopped them on three plays and would have forced a FG, only for that hands to the face call to be made. This is the verbiage according to google:
Close-Line Play vs. Open Field: During close-line play, contact to the head/neck area is only a foul if it is direct, forcible, or prolonged/sustained enough to pin the opponent's head back
It was definitely not forcible or prolonged - I'm fairly sure that just wasn't a foul, at all.
So, the fact that we overcame the first bad call was awesome. Our defense stepped up. The only other two scoring drives we allowed, I blame special teams just as much as the defense if not more for allowing them the starting field position.
We need an NFL caliber punter. He had ONE good punt the entire game.....does Evans have pictures of McVay or something at this point? I get most of his decisions for culture, scheme and probably reasons we don't see like practice for the WR depth or CB depth - but we could easily cut Evans today and pick up a new punter with experience.
He booms one to the dead center of the field which of course yields a good return. We punt from Broncos territory and they call fair catch at the 13....that is unacceptable in my book. If we're punting from their territory, it needs to be inside the 10 at MINIMUM, preferably inside the 5.
The one punt he did have, Forbes has a penalty which, while I agree with the penalty I also bet there were ten instances of that not called this weekend.
But ultimately, its whatever. I had this game marked as an L. I'll be making a thread shortly for more positivity.
I don't know if it should be comforting or sting more that everyone agrees we got hosed by the refs on that call.
After 3 weeks we have the #2 offense and #3 defense in the league in terms of yards and sit with a losing record. How the fuck does that happen? I hope to never see Vaginabitch ref another Rams game. Don't the Rams have enough proof after all these years of his obvious tactical officiating of Rams games. He doesn't even try to hide the fact of his bias against us, it gets worse with him every game. Fuck the NFL with their scheduling too, money grabbing cocksuckers.
Because we can’t put teams away when we should be. Nothing new been doing it for last couple of years. Cost us a SB last year and it could this year.
It's exhausting with this team at times. Get a big lead despite settling for field goals, then get conservative and allow opposing team back in the game when they have to comeback to win, hold on for dear life or come up short
Denver had <70 yards of offense in 1st half and the Rams could have been up by 20-30.
And here we are....
Denver had <70 yards of offense in 1st half and the Rams could have been up by 20-30.
And here we are....
If turnovers are reviewable, penalties that change possession should also be reviewable. The only time this would come up is when a D penalty is called and negates a turnover, so it wouldnt add a lot of time to games, but it would add integrity.
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