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RamBall said:
If turnovers are reviewable, penalties that change possession should also be reviewable. The only time this would come up is when a D penalty is called and negates a turnover, so it wouldnt add a lot of time to games, but it would add integrity.
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they do it in all other sports but for some reason people think its a no no in football.
 
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Lots of mistakes, penalties and bad execution, ST was at the forefront of much of it.

Oh well,
Moving On!
 
InfiniteRam said:
Yea, I feel you on this. Having a hard time getting past it. EVERYTHING about this says this game was rigged. I can't move away from the fact that the down judge was staring right at it, and did not throw the flag.
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When do they over rule a fellow refs call? All he had to do is say the receiver was pulling him from the shoulder not a PI. They could discuss. I mean the receiver had 30s shoulder for more than 5 yards. It was so obvious he initiated all contact.

And then the hands to the face. How many times have we seen that ignored against us? They really called it tight against us, not Denver.
 
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methomas50 said:
I know stats are for losers and statistically the Rams dominated this game but in examining said stats the the two that most determined the outcome are: the already mentioned penalties Rams 13 for 91 yards while Den 5 for 38. And red zone Rams 1 for 4 and Den 3 for 3. Gotta convert a whole lot better there.
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Except broncos should have been 2 for 3, right?
 
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How many losses still gets us to the superbowl? So far we have 2 of 17 games. The special teams play means we will have many many more losses. Heck all the mistakes will get us more losses. So 7?
 
Psycho_X said:

View: https://x.com/RicflairsFather/status/2104551338898268417?s=20
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I remember when they used to review PI calls, and the NFL refused to overturn them because they didn't want to make the refs look bad. It really is absurd with all the technology that they don't have a ref in the booth correcting the bullshit decisions in real-time.
Psycho_X said:
What's ridiculous is that PI was so bad no one even thinking about the ridiculous hands to face penalty on Lake that should have kept them to a field goal and then offensive lineman literally holding every defensive player in camera view by the shoulders from behind when Nix went out at the one inch line. It's really hard to not believe the refs weren't doing everything possible to make that the result. It's really hard to not be bitter after this game.
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There was so much flat-out biased officiating in this game that it's hard to get angry at a single bad call outside of the game-ending INT that should have been.

That's not to say you're wrong. It was an idiotic call. It's to say that they selectively enforced the rules in such a skewed way that it all just feels crooked and has me seriously considering not tuning in again.
 
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I see three reasons for this loss - two of which were under the Rams control:

1] McVay's refusal to call a more balanced offense
Rushing attempts - 21
Williams: 5.9 yards per carry!
Passing attempts: 55
Ratio: Run - 28% Pass 72%
Why he feels he needs to pass that much when they had a nice lead is beyond me. Then, he just kept it up, until a pick 6.
You have a 16 point lead - why throw, throw, throw?
2] Defense. I started a thread after the first game regarding Shula's competency. The Rams defense looked good against a quarterback-less Giants. They are undisciplined (missed coverages) and lacking in basic technique (missed tackles). And that has been going on since last season. Coaching matters! His defenses are sloppy and mistake-prone. Sorry - that's what my eyes are telling me.
3] Of course, the refs. That obviously missed INT, among other bad calls. I'd love to see the controls the NFL has in place to ensure these refs are not - and cannot - bet through any of the myriad legal on-line betting vehicles available today. I'd love to see how they are monitored to ensure no personal gain.
This seems pretty flimsy to me:
https://media.nfl.com/content/dam/communications/documents/2025/NFL LSB Media Fact Sheet.pdf
Flimsy.

We cannot control the referees and we'll never see the details of any monitoring the NFL might have in place to keep them honest.

But McVay's infatuation with the passing game - even when you have a comfortable lead? Williams is a very talented runner!! Use him, keep the opponent on their heels. Predictability is a sure fire way to lose NFL games.

Shula? I just don't see him changing - I don't think he can. His coaching skills are lacking and I don't see McVay being able to help.
His career lacks any real tutelage under an established NFL Defensive Coordinator:
"Prior to joining the Rams in 2017, Shula spent two seasons as defensive quality control coach with the Chargers. He assisted with the defensive line, which saw a breakout season from rookie DE Joey Bosa, who finished the 2016 season tied for sixth in the AFC in sacks with 10.5.
Shula entered the NFL after spending one season as defensive coordinator at John Carroll University in 2014. During that season, John Carroll reached the quarterfinals of the NCAA Division III playoffs and finished 10th in Division III in scoring defense."

Perhaps he's meant to be an assistant to the DC (positions coach) but not a DC.

I sit in front of the TV during a second half and cringe whenever that defense is on the field.
 
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Ellard80 said:
the amount of pass attemps in the game are a bit misleading because of the end of the half and end of the game.

However, I think we avg about 2 yards a rush in the 2nd half - it wasn't working.
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Williams was doing well in the game whereas Corum was having a terrible time.

They should have gone with the hot hand and stay with Williams in this game.

I have seen games where we should have stayed with Corum instead of Williams.

Stay with the hot hand.
 
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Tano said:
Mumpfields TD was due to a piss poor play by the CB. That CB should have been toasted by our receivers all game long.

However, Mumpfield is just a JAG who can block. I can see him being in the game on first downs and second or third and short.

But second or third and long and we need another WR who can break pass defenses.
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I disagree with the bolded part. In Mumpfield's defense, that was a sweet deek.
 
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RamFan58years said:
Just like many losses last year, if just one of many plays - just one - they win. Terrible PI call when the Ram made a great int with a minute to go; Stafford doesn’t see Ferguson for a wide open TD on the first possession; Watson drops easy pick on Denver’s first possession; horrible play by Forbes on the punt in the third Q where he ran out of bounds forever - Denver started on their 48 instead of their 8; horrible special teams tackling and coverage on the other punt - Denver had TD drives of 52 and 36 yards due to Sp Teams; Stafford’s pick six, just a horrible decision; can’t defend a two point play AGAIN - saw this vs Seattle last year. They also lost Watson and Ferguson on top of not having Garrett and Puka, had 13 penalties (don’t want to start of the refs), but were still one play at the end from winning. They don’t get a consistent pass rush either; that 37 yard gain late by Denver on 2cd and 20, just a killer. The only positive I see is it’s early and a loss to an AFC team, and Seattle lost today as well. With Philly and Buff next we could be looking at 1-4.
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I don't want to watch what Allen does to Shula's defense! :wow2:
 
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Psycho_X said:
What's ridiculous is that PI was so bad no one even thinking about the ridiculous hands to face penalty on Lake that should have kept them to a field goal and then offensive lineman literally holding every defensive player in camera view by the shoulders from behind when Nix went out at the one inch line. It's really hard to not believe the refs weren't doing everything possible to make that the result. It's really hard to not be bitter after this game.
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Considering how many contested catches the Rams made yesterday, with 0 PI called, it's maddening how ticky tack it became at the end
The only consistent thing with the Refs is the inconsistency
 
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