USS Harvey Milk ladies and gents

[Memento]

Fort Benning = Three options, Fort Darby, Fort Rogers, or Fort Lee (not the shit one).. Darby led Darby's Rangers who became the Army Rangers, which Benning is home of Ranger school and the 75th Ranger Regiment and 3rd Bat. However, Camp Darby is already part of Ranger School, so they could instead opt to go further back with Fort Rogers which harkens back to Rogers Rangers during the French and Indian War, however they were technically a British unit since America didn't exist yet. However, during the Revolutionary War the members of Rogers Rangers opted to fight for the Continental forces rather than the Brits. Camp Rogers also exists as part of Ranger assessment for Ranger School though.. Lee, named for General William Lee, is often called the father of the US Army Airborne, which the school is also located at Benning. So all three options are better, Lee is probably the "best" since Airborne school sees more students.

Fort Bragg = Fort Bank, the founder of Army Special Forces, which Bragg is the home of Special Forces, pretty simple.

Fort Lee = Since Fort Lee was where WAC was headquartered during/after WWII (the Woman's Auxiliary Corps) before it was disbanded and they intergrated them into the regular army, the two most obvious choices are either Fort Hobby (the first director of WAC) or Fort Sampson, named for Deborah Sampson, who disguised herself as a man to fight for the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War

Fort Hood = Fort Murphy, named for Audie Murphy, MOH recipient, one of the most decorated soldiers in American history, and a Texan native, super easy.

Fort Polk = This is arguably one of the shittiest posts in the Army, there's really nothing redeeming about it, so I honestly couldn't give a shit less what they call it. I guess Fort McNair or Fort Clark since those were the two twats who decided to put a base there for large scale unit training.

Fort Gordon = Fort York. Sergeant York was one of the most decorated Army soldiers from WWI, MOH recipient, and was stationed at Gordon, similar to Murphy, an easy choice.

Fort Pickett = Fort Marshall, named for General Marshall the Chief of Staff during WWII, considered himself a Virginian, commissioned from the Virginia Military Institute.

Fort Rucker = Fort Dillard, an Alabama man and the first black Intelligence Officer in the Army, and the first black officer to graduate from the National War College.

Fort Hill = Since it's also in Virgina, the next best "Virginian" to name it would be Fort MacArthur, General during WWII, MOH recipient.

Camp Beauregard = I honestly don't know anything about this base, other than it's a National Guard base in Louisiana, so I'm sure there's someone they can pick that's better than a traitor. Maybe Fort Rickenbacker, another one of America's most decorated soldiers and an ace pilot during WWII, MOH recipient.

Camp Maxey = This base isn't really used anymore and hasn't been for a long time, but it's still technically there. Call it Camp Holland for Milton Holland, the first native Texan to receive the MOH (fighting for the Union Army during the Civil War)

Camp Pendleton = Camp Basilone, named for the USMC MOH recipient John Basilone who was stationed at Pendleton. They already have a road named after him going into the base, on the base, a crucible challenge named for him, and one of the drop zones on the base is named for him. Just name the base for him already.


And that's just picking soldiers, you could also pick various civil rights leaders, or other important figures in American history, both military or otherwise.

Can we send your suggestions to the Joint Chiefs or whomever helps run the military? Because I love the suggestions.

 

[Riverumbbq]

And Reagan was a financial windfall in the 80s who rebuilt much of our fleet and supply chains etc.

Yeah, I guess those illegal arms being shipped to Iran for the Contras was pretty lucrative. His busting of unions and opening the borders for illegal laborers to replace American manufacturing must have also been pretty lucrative for his supporters, ... what a guy.

 

[Merlin]

Yeah, I guess those illegal arms being shipped to Iran for the Contras was pretty lucrative. His busting of unions and opening the borders for illegal laborers to replace American manufacturing must have also been pretty lucrative for his supporters, ... what a guy.

Just talking his impact to the Navy. No interest in arguing your villainizing one of my favorite presidents. Let's agree to disagree.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Just talking his impact to the Navy. No interest in arguing your villainizing one of my favorite presidents. Let's agree to disagree.

Too bad, and there is so much more ..., but yeah, I'm not seeking a moderator warning, although you brought him up, not me.

 

[Ramhusker]

Milk dud?

 

[bluecoconuts]

Can we send your suggestions to the Joint Chiefs or whomever helps run the military? Because I love the suggestions.

I would be shocked if at least some of these don't make the short list for base names for the renaming commission, hopefully it doesn't take too long.

 

[JonRam99]

Imma get my popcorn, brb

 

[Mackeyser]

So we have the USS Ronald Reagan, USS John F. Kennedy, USS Nimitz...and had the USS Constellation, USS America, USS Tarawa,,,and now, the USS Harvey Milk? US Presidents, War Admiral hero, Revered namesake ship, America itself and a WW2 battle site. If I remember, Milk was an aide to Mayor Moscone in Frisco and they got shot and killed.... How does this dude rate above MLK for the honor of naming a US vessel after him?

He doesn't.

Firstly, it's a support ship, so it's not like the USS Harvey Milk is gonna be on point for anything.

Secondly, he was a Naval Officer in good standing who was ejected from military service solely for being gay. He was an elected official in SF, not just an aide, and the first openly gay politician in the US.

Also... not for nothing, but it would likely be seen as very inappropriate to name a US warship after MLK with his stance on non-violence.

In a world of crazy things, this isn't one of them. The Navy is doing right by a Naval Officer that they did wrong to, but they didn't go overboard.

I mean, they didn't launch a new line of warships such that his namesake would define the entire class. It's a single ship, a support ship at that. It's okay.

 

[fearsomefour]

Two words: gay rights. Harvey Milk, for all of his flaws with Jim Jones and his cult, was a bastion for LGBTQ rights, as the very first openly gay politician, and always defending the people who were most vulnerable. Harvey Milk basically made people like me (albeit I don't live in the same area as Milk did) have rights.

Now granted, MLK deserves a ship of his own, but Milk is not a bad choice in the slightest.

I find Harvey Milk to be a fascinating and overall heroic figure.
Like you said, he had faults....but all interesting people do.
Superman is boring......Batman is interesting.
Anyway, I am going to find a bio of Milk, I am sure there is a good one out there.

 

[fearsomefour]

Firstly, it's a support ship, so it's not like the USS Harvey Milk is gonna be on point for anything.

Secondly, he was a Naval Officer in good standing who was ejected from military service solely for being gay. He was an elected official in SF, not just an aide, and the first openly gay politician in the US.

Also... not for nothing, but it would likely be seen as very inappropriate to name a US warship after MLK with his stance on non-violence.

In a world of crazy things, this isn't one of them. The Navy is doing right by a Naval Officer that they did wrong to, but they didn't go overboard.

I mean, they didn't launch a new line of warships such that his namesake would define the entire class. It's a single ship, a support ship at that. It's okay.

Interesting.
I didn't know about his history with being thrown out of service.
Sad but I am sure it helped shape him to the role he took up later.

 

[Neil039]

So we have the USS Ronald Reagan, USS John F. Kennedy, USS Nimitz...and had the USS Constellation, USS America, USS Tarawa,,,and now, the USS Harvey Milk? US Presidents, War Admiral hero, Revered namesake ship, America itself and a WW2 battle site. If I remember, Milk was an aide to Mayor Moscone in Frisco and they got shot and killed.... How does this dude rate above MLK for the honor of naming a US vessel after him?

He doesn't.

It’s called politically woke. They who have the loudest cries get the most attention.

I have zero issue with the work Milk did. I do however believe this is an honor that has been misplaced.

 

[RamUK]

It’s called politically woke. They who have the loudest cries get the most attention.

I have zero issue with the work Milk did. I do however believe this is an honor that has been misplaced.

It's a shame that the term *woke* has gone from meaning something tangible to a pejorative term adopted by people on the right when referring to anything or anybody they see as a threat to them and their traditional way of doing things.

You cannot call something politically woke when it is supported by people so close to the centre.

If you said it was progressive I'd agree, but that's not the same thing at all.

 

[Neil039]

It's a shame that the term *woke* has gone from meaning something tangible to a pejorative term adopted by people on the right when referring to anything or anybody they see as a threat to them and their traditional way of doing things.

You cannot call something politically woke when it is supported by people so close to the centre.

If you said it was progressive I'd agree, but that's not the same thing at all.

I’ll disagree with your opinion. As you have with mine.