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I loathe that talking point about the issue of potential extraterrestrial life. The notion that humans are somehow more barbaric or stupid or greedy compared to hypothetical alien race. There is nothing in nature that shows us the pursuit of resources isn't the driving force of all life.



We don't have to consider that at all. In fact it's incredibly unlikely. It's the Gene Roddenberry view of life. Which don't get me wrong, I love Gene and Star Trek, but his vision of utopia was based on a society with access to near infinite energy and near infinite resources. Only those two things allow the Earth of Star Trek to be a paradise, and in real life those factors would have to be in place for a single planet or coalition of planets to achieve that utopian dream.



That does nothing to address the finite nature of both energy and physical resources.



I disagree.
Really well put. All of it.
 
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Really well put. All of it.

Like you I'm completely open to the idea of alien life. In fact, the two things I'd love to see before my time on this planet is done (other than the Rams winning enough Super Bowls to be the all-time leader in Lombardis) is proof of extraterrestrial life and a man on Mars.

I don't care if that proof is something as tiny as a molecular fossil, I just want to be alive to see it.

But you're right, there are a lot of things that would have to go right for intelligent aliens to visit us. Think even of trying to find another species in the universe. You're not talking about a needle in a haystack. You're talking about finding a specific grain of sand in a desert. Even that doesn't really do the idea of being found justice.

My brother is a physicist, he is the smartest person I have ever known in my life and will probably ever know. Listening to him describe and explain these concepts is completely mindblowing and so many people who want to believe are just incapable of understanding the magnitude of what it would actually take to make contact with intelligent alien life.

And I have to mention again how much it irks me when people say humans just aren't smart enough or too greedy or barbaric or whatever to achieve interstellar capabilities. It has nothing to do with any of that. It really is just math.
 
Like you I'm completely open to the idea of alien life. In fact, the two things I'd love to see before my time on this planet is done (other than the Rams winning enough Super Bowls to be the all-time leader in Lombardis) is proof of extraterrestrial life and a man on Mars.

I don't care if that proof is something as tiny as a molecular fossil, I just want to be alive to see it.

But you're right, there are a lot of things that would have to go right for intelligent aliens to visit us. Think even of trying to find another species in the universe. You're not talking about a needle in a haystack. You're talking about finding a specific grain of sand in a desert. Even that doesn't really do the idea of being found justice.

My brother is a physicist, he is the smartest person I have ever known in my life and will probably ever know. Listening to him describe and explain these concepts is completely mindblowing and so many people who want to believe are just incapable of understanding the magnitude of what it would actually take to make contact with intelligent alien life.

And I have to mention again how much it irks me when people say humans just aren't smart enough or too greedy or barbaric or whatever to achieve interstellar capabilities. It has nothing to do with any of that. It really is just math.
My counterpoint is if the aliens are able to travel from one star system to other star systems a short amount of time, then it is also feasible that they will be able to pick up our radio signals going thru the galaxy and tracking it back to our planet. Now I know radio signals are slow and would take a really long time to go to another galaxy so I am not saying it will happen in our lifetime but eventually I do believe the alien life would find us. Could take 200,000 years.
 
My brother is a physicist, he is the smartest person I have ever known in my life and will probably ever know. Listening to him describe and explain these concepts is completely mindblowing and so many people who want to believe are just incapable of understanding the magnitude of what it would actually take to make contact with intelligent alien life.

And I have to mention again how much it irks me when people say humans just aren't smart enough or too greedy or barbaric or whatever to achieve interstellar capabilities. It has nothing to do with any of that. It really is just math.
As you know, I'm in agreement with you about the seemingly insurmountable problems of interstellar distances. Nothing can surpass the speed of light. And anything with mass cannot even "approach" the speed of light.

However... elsewhere you mentioned that scarce energy resources prevent a Roddenberry-like utopian world. I wonder what your physicist brother might think about the recent advances in "nearly unlimited" energy? Sounds like we're getting closer to harnessing fusion reactions.

Doesn't come anywhere close to solving the "interstellar distance" problem. But maybe it would go a long way to reducing our species bickering about limited energy resources here on earth? Here's one article among many on the subject.

 
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I guess there isn't an alien post on the dark side of the moon like some people were claiming.
 
Seems as good a place as any to discuss the recent run of deaths among scientists and UFO researchers. At first I was skeptical of it being anything but we've hit the numbers that it's not ignorable anymore. Supposedly Congress is going to make it their priority to investigate but forgive me if I don't believe in that body of government at the moment. It's disturbing to say the least. A lot of articles and twitter discussion about it but here is a basic article from yahoo on it... tried to copy and paste and delete all the pop up/link bullshit.

String of scientist deaths, vanishings fuels expert talks of shadow ops and silenced secrets: 'Very serious'
Julia Bonavita
Sun, April 19, 2026 at 7:00 AM CDT

At least 11 high-level scientists in the United States have died or disappeared since 2022, with many involved in nuclear science, space research, and UFO studies.

Nearly a dozen mysterious deaths and disappearances of high-level scientists throughout the United States is raising eyebrows as one expert suggests the individuals may have been targeted for their knowledge or forced to disappear for their own protection.

At least 11 people have either died or vanished since 2022, with the vast majority involved in researching nuclear science and space – and some connected to UFO studies.

Michael David Hicks, 59; Frank Maiwald, 61; Nuno Loureiro, 47; Jason Thomas, 45; Amy Eskridge, 34; and Carl Grillmair, 47, all died between 2023 and 2026, with each individual playing a key role in vital scientific research.

While Hicks and Maiwald’s cause of deaths remain unknown, Grillmair was gunned down outside his home on Feb. 16, 2026. Freddy Snyder, 29, was charged with his murder.

Loureiro was also shot at his Massachusetts home, and died from his injuries one day later on Dec. 15, 2025. His death was linked to a separate mass shooting at Brown University.

The body of Thomas, an associate director of chemical biology at pharmaceutical company Novartis, was discovered in Lake Quannapowitt, Massachusetts, three months after he was last seen walking from his home late at night.

Eskridge, a Huntsville, Alabama–based researcher, died June 11, 2022, from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Monica Reza, 60; Melissa Casias, 53; Anthony Chavez, 79; Steven Garcia, 48; and retired Air Force Maj. Gen. William Neil McCasland, 68, were all reported missing throughout 2023 to 2026, with each of their disappearances occurring under suspicious circumstances.

Some scientists vanished from their homes, with others disappearing on hiking trails and other public areas.

While the individuals do not appear to be connected through their work and research, one expert is pointing to the possibility that something more sinister could be at play.


"The disappearances of some of these people may be because there are some confidential investigations going on at a very significant level federally, where there are certain people that may be either taken because they know too much or have made themselves disappear because they would be assets that could be interrogated or even charged with various crimes," Dr. Steven Greer, a ufologist and a retired physician, told Fox News Digital.

Greer also points to one possibility being that the scientists have been targeted by a transnational criminal organization looking to keep their research out of the public eye.


"In certain significant quarters federally, it has been concluded that the programs – some euphemistically call them legacy programs – have been attached to UFO, UAP research and development, and have been involved as a criminal organization," Greer said.

In response to the renewed public attention, President Donald Trump has vowed to investigate the mysterious disappearances and deaths of the various scientists.

"I hope it's random, but we're going to know in the next week and a half," Trump told reporters Thursday. "I just left a meeting on that subject."

Additionally, the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) previously told Fox News Digital it is looking into the cases.


"NNSA is aware of reports related to employees of our labs, plants, and sites and is looking into the matter."

In light of the closely timed incidents, Greer believes the federal government needs to step in to provide more protections for whistleblowers as they work to find the cause of the various mysterious deaths and disappearances.

"This is something very serious," Greer told Fox News Digital. "Even though it sounds like a James Bond movie, it's no joke. We have very heroic and patriotic people who have been trying to come forward, but the United States government, in my opinion, has failed them by not providing adequate protections."
 
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It's concerning for sure. I think we're in an arms race right now with China and probably Russia to be the first to master the propulsion these craft are using. I figure all three nations have Manhattan level projects going, because whoever gets it first is going to have a window to exert insane influence on this world. Perhaps even dictate things into the next era and maybe even lead a world government.

This stuff is serious. It's real.