UFOs
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This dude should be getting paid by NASA for what he's doing. Also he deserves attention by the media, but alas they're not particularly good at seeing what stories are until they're told they're important.
But Jean has found so many things on Mars that it is mind boggling. This one for example is really difficult to explain:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwfkrkswRM4
This one looks straight up like the remnants of an ancient settlement:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cKwNlHuByc
He's also got some cool stuff on Antarctica like this, which God knows what it might be:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY4EzAiskws
But Jean has found so many things on Mars that it is mind boggling. This one for example is really difficult to explain:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwfkrkswRM4
This one looks straight up like the remnants of an ancient settlement:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cKwNlHuByc
He's also got some cool stuff on Antarctica like this, which God knows what it might be:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY4EzAiskws
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Don't want to start a new thread for this. But I think this is a major problem in this era and it is part of the reason we are stagnating scientifically. Avi is very much outside the mainstream on this, but I happen to think he is correct philosophically.
By the way I don't think 3I/Atlas is anything other than a comet. However Avi is correct to focus solely on the results of the testing, and he is correct to ask the question "what if" as it pertains to whether this may be something created by intelligence.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrPicoKuVd4
By the way I don't think 3I/Atlas is anything other than a comet. However Avi is correct to focus solely on the results of the testing, and he is correct to ask the question "what if" as it pertains to whether this may be something created by intelligence.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrPicoKuVd4
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Replaced the clip with the full interview which is much better. This is the producer of The Age of Disclosure.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSFaaq3vhfY
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSFaaq3vhfY
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In my opinion, it's because of one word: pareidolia.
Credit to @Selassie I for mentioning that word, I'd never heard it before.
We humans are pattern-seeking creatures. It's just what we do.
In the UAP community, there are thousands upon thousands of examples of pareidolia. Again, just my opinion.
"Pareidolia is the tendency for perception to impose a meaningful interpretation on a nebulous stimulus, usually visual, so that one detects an object, pattern, or meaning where there is none."
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I am well aware of pareidolia. But there are other scientific terms you could use at the other end of the spectrum, like confirmation bias for example, or perhaps willful ignorance, to describe looking past what is clearly not naturally occurring phenomenon on Mars, in its skies, or even here on Earth.
I'm a huge skeptic... but THAT is just impossible to be explained away as just natural formations.
This really should be making headlines across the globe.
This is me staring at those Mars shots (seriously)...
Looking over the five years of this thread, I'd forgotten how I check in here about once a year or so. So one quick question for this year.
For the life of me I can't quite understand how Jean Ward's observation that patterns on the surface of Mars "seem to resemble those of rice paddies here on earth" could possibly be compelling.
I'd grant some weight to a guy like Avi Loeb, the astrophysicist from Harvard, even though the vast majority in the scientific community disagree with him. But Jean Ward? He's not even a scientist, from what I can find online. He's a telecommunications guy.
Mainly-- if someone wanted to make a case that there was intelligent life on Mars billions of years ago, or hundreds of millions of years ago, I could understand the logic of that. (Maybe evidence of the ancient civilization could have been erased.) Sounds like there was plenty of water on ancient Mars.
But it sounds like there's a scientific consensus that Mars didn't have much water as recently as about a million years ago. Certainly hardly any at all near the equator, as this guy acknowledges he's focusing on. So how could it even be remotely possible that "evidence of a potential farming complex" could be so recent? Mars has high winds and lots of dust... sounds like things erode and get covered up very quickly, as soon as decades, or even a couple of years.
So if someone wants to chime in and explain how Ward's observations could be anything other than pareidolia, I'd be curious to hear. Was this supposed "farming complex"" hundreds of years ago, or millions of years ago? I'm trying to give Ward the benefit of the doubt, but to me, it carries about as much weight as if Ward had said, "hey that puffy cloud up in the sky kinda reminds me of a farming complex." Granted, I haven't watched or heard much of his stuff, so I don't even follow his logic on this one.
For the life of me I can't quite understand how Jean Ward's observation that patterns on the surface of Mars "seem to resemble those of rice paddies here on earth" could possibly be compelling.
I'd grant some weight to a guy like Avi Loeb, the astrophysicist from Harvard, even though the vast majority in the scientific community disagree with him. But Jean Ward? He's not even a scientist, from what I can find online. He's a telecommunications guy.
Mainly-- if someone wanted to make a case that there was intelligent life on Mars billions of years ago, or hundreds of millions of years ago, I could understand the logic of that. (Maybe evidence of the ancient civilization could have been erased.) Sounds like there was plenty of water on ancient Mars.
But it sounds like there's a scientific consensus that Mars didn't have much water as recently as about a million years ago. Certainly hardly any at all near the equator, as this guy acknowledges he's focusing on. So how could it even be remotely possible that "evidence of a potential farming complex" could be so recent? Mars has high winds and lots of dust... sounds like things erode and get covered up very quickly, as soon as decades, or even a couple of years.
So if someone wants to chime in and explain how Ward's observations could be anything other than pareidolia, I'd be curious to hear. Was this supposed "farming complex"" hundreds of years ago, or millions of years ago? I'm trying to give Ward the benefit of the doubt, but to me, it carries about as much weight as if Ward had said, "hey that puffy cloud up in the sky kinda reminds me of a farming complex." Granted, I haven't watched or heard much of his stuff, so I don't even follow his logic on this one.
What they should do is find someone with a less dynamic form of speaking. Not sure that is possible. Would someone wake that dude up?
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Think he's an engineer by trade. Technical types are often dial tone speakers.
Well he definitely makes me want to push some buttons or just hang up.
