Trade Deadline Rumors and Trades

[Elmgrovegnome]

Also the Rams have
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And they should have some comp picks and a 4th or 2 4ths will be there. If the Rams eff them picks wanted they have had the mentality all along they would have CMC rt now. They didn't want him as the game altering piece he isn't that deciding factor I wouldn't invest that capital in a walking injury RB.
He is great and will help the whiners no doubt but the end of the day Jimmy G is the QB.

This could be the story as I said early in the yr with a feel good ending for Jimmy or just another disappointing season for the whiners.

Just remember there biggest obstacle in not winning a Superbowl hasn't been a RB.

It's been 2 serial chokers in:
Jimmy and rat face.

Add to the defense best way to counter this move and hopefully for a young cornerstone to still be here after AD.

And round 6 has been Snead’s least successful

 

[PARAM]

Well, you could say the loss of the A grade Gurley cost the Rams the 2018 SB.

So it is a position that can make the difference in the playoffs.

Not sure Tampa wins in 2020 without Fournette.

I thought the consensus opinion was the Rams lost the Superbowl to New England because their O line, Goff and McVay couldn't handle what Belichick prepared for them. I'm not convinced a healthy "A" Gurley would have made much difference. You may be right about Fournette but they definitely don't win it without Brady.

McCaffrey is a good pickup but I'm not convinced the 49ers just won the Superbowl.

 

[Malibu]

I've been wanting to say this too, OL that are any good just don't get traded. We were ridiculously lucky to get someone like Corbett years ago. Maybe Snead can find another diamond that another team considers coal but that was a very rare exception I think and I wouldn't get any hopes around that happening again. Teams trade looser on almost every position outside of OL so just more likely for that to happen.

Corbett isn't the type of OLman everyone is talking about. Although a very high draft pic #33 by Cleveland he wasn't a starter and they considered him a bust. We revamped his career.

We need a really strong lineman at T or LG and those are hard to find on the open market at the trade deadline. The issue is those linemen keep a teams prize possession (QB) safe so teams want to keep them.

 

[oldnotdead]

McCaffrey is a good pickup but I'm not convinced the 49ers just won the Superbowl.

I absolutely concur. A RB pickup is a lot different than a QB. As we have seen a RB needs a good OL to be consistently successful. They already had Deebo a hybrid WR/RB so now they have a hybrid RB/WR....just how much better will they be? That's also assuming he stays healthy all season and into the playoffs. That is something he hasn't done in the last two years. Note last year he had the same ankle injury twice during the year. That is a big red flag IMO.

 

[Kupped]

And round 6 has been Snead’s least successful

Disagree strongly.
SJD, Fuller & Kendrick.
When you factor in round.. excellent value.
Second round has seen low value, imo. At least recent years.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Disagree strongly.
SJD, Fuller & Kendrick.
When you factor in round.. excellent value.
Second round has seen low value, imo. At least recent years.

It was posted here a month or two ago. It was a chart or lost. I doubt I can find it. Every round of every pick was accounted for. Round 6 was the worst.

If you consider the volume of his 6th round picks getting three right isn’t a very good percentage of success.

But you can disagree with the facts if you like.

 

[ottoman89]

It's been oddly quiet.

 

[Merlin]

It was posted here a month or two ago. It was a chart or lost. I doubt I can find it. Every round of every pick was accounted for. Round 6 was the worst.

If you consider the volume of his 6th round picks getting three right isn’t a very good percentage of success.

But you can disagree with the facts if you like.

Yeah and I think that's why missing on a guy like Tutu hurts the Rams. They don't have as much room for error when they do get a chance to use a round 2 pick. Hitting on it is a little more important than it is for a team that builds primarily through the draft.

But Snead has mostly whiffed on OL too for example. If they can turn Jackson into a good LT that makes up for a ton of misses, but still I think they need to re-evaluate the way that they evaluate the OL and RB position groups.

 

[Kupped]

It was posted here a month or two ago. It was a chart or lost. I doubt I can find it. Every round of every pick was accounted for. Round 6 was the worst.

If you consider the volume of his 6th round picks getting three right isn’t a very good percentage of success.

But you can disagree with the facts if you like.

If you consider the value of 6th round picks, relative to 2nd round picks.. there's no comparison.

Draft trade value chart for picks... middle second rounder worth 410 points... middle 6th rounder worth 19 points.

It's not about disagreeing... it's about reality.

A second round pick would net you multiple 6th round picks.... like, at least 4.

So, again... the value he's gotten in the 6th has far exceeded the value of his second rounders recently.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

If you consider the value of 6th round picks, relative to 2nd round picks.. there's no comparison.

Draft trade value chart for picks... middle second rounder worth 410 points... middle 6th rounder worth 19 points.

It's not about disagreeing... it's about reality.

A second round pick would net you multiple 6th round picks.... like, at least 4.

So, again... the value he's gotten in the 6th has far exceeded the value of his second rounders recently.

You are talking about a totally different topic now. I said nothing about draft value charts. You don’t even know what I’m talking about because you didn’t see the chart.

Disagree with a made up argument just to prove you won it. I don’t care.

 

[Kupped]

You are talking about a totally different topic now. I said nothing about draft value charts. You don’t even know what I’m talking about because you didn’t see the chart.

Disagree with a made up argument just to prove you won it. I don’t care.

And round 6 has been Snead’s least successful

What are you saying, then?

 

[PhillyRam]

I thought the consensus opinion was the Rams lost the Superbowl to New England because their O line, Goff and McVay couldn't handle what Belichick prepared for them. I'm not convinced a healthy "A" Gurley would have made much difference. You may be right about Fournette but they definitely don't win it without Brady.

McCaffrey is a good pickup but I'm not convinced the 49ers just won the Superbowl.

Never said they would win the SB. I see Buffalo just on another level from everyone if they play their A game.

I just reacted to the comment that a RB can't be a difference maker and pointed out instances where they were.

And yes McVay struggled with Belichick's defense, but Belichick doesn't get away with playing that defense with a healthy Gurley at his best. And it's not like they had to put up 30 to win. 14-17 points win that game and they get that with a healthy Gurley.

 

[Rams4life]

If the Rams plan to make a move, you would think it will be before Sunday so the said player doesn't have the chance of getting hurt. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Kupped]

Since 2018, the Rams have drafted starters SJD, Fuller and Kendrick in the 6th.

Rapp, Akers, Jefferson are starters from the second round.

@Elmgrovegnome … what are you talking about?

 

[Ram_Rally]

If the Rams plan to make a move, you would think it will be before Sunday so the said player doesn't have the chance of getting hurt. Just my 2 cents.

Trade deadline is a ways away still though. They won't rush into anything.

 

[Merlin]

Never said they would win the SB. I see Buffalo just on another level from everyone if they play their A game.

I just reacted to the comment that a RB can't be a difference maker and pointed out instances where they were.

And yes McVay struggled with Belichick's defense, but Belichick doesn't get away with playing that defense with a healthy Gurley at his best. And it's not like they had to put up 30 to win. 14-17 points win that game and they get that with a healthy Gurley.

Yeah I think people take the fact that you don't want to pay a RB, which is because they get hurt way too much, and then misconstrue that the RB position is worthless to a championship equation which is not true.

Running the ball is always going to be a boon and playoffs are always going to raise its importance. The fact that you can overcome it is beside the point. That doesn't mean you want to not have a run game in terms of your roster planning.

Rams have to figure this out.

 

[PhillyRam]

Yes and no Akers and company did nothing in this Superbowl and we won with 1 wide receiver. Mcvay got taught a lesson by Belicheats as he has admitted and Goff wasn't good enough to take over.

I'm not denying CMC ability but the RB position isn't known to win you a game single handedly. And also saying if we had grade A Gurley we win is great but still speculation.
On the the otherhand defense and or a QB win you more chips.

He will make them better not taking that away he will even make Jimmy better but when chips are down not so sure.

And with no run game they were very fortunate to pull out 3 nail biters in tbe playoffs. With a healthy run game they likely win two of those games easily.

In fact the lack of a run game nearly cost them a game where they jumped out to a 27-3 lead.

And again not saying the Niners now win the SB, but their chances to get there has improved in my mind.... if McCaffery is healthy in the playoffs.

 

[payote75]

And with no run game they were very fortunate to pull out 3 nail biters in tbe playoffs. With a healthy run game they likely win two of those games easily.

In fact the lack of a run game nearly cost them a game where they jumped out to a 27-3 lead.

And again not saying the Niners now win the SB, but their chances to get there has improved in my mind.... if McCaffery is healthy in the playoffs.

Again how they won is just that they won those are actual/factual things that happened. Hypothetically speaking is just that it's grasping at straws.

And again I'm not saying he isn't a great player or cant help make a difference but inevitably that position is ultimately not known as a position that wins championships.

 

[PhillyRam]

Yes and no Akers and company did nothing in this Superbowl and we won with 1 wide receiver. Mcvay got taught a lesson by Belicheats as he has admitted and Goff wasn't good enough to take over.

I'm not denying CMC ability but the RB position isn't known to win you a game single handedly. And also saying if we had grade A Gurley we win is great but still speculation.
On the the otherhand defense and or a QB win you more chips.

He will make them better not taking that away he will even make Jimmy better but when chips are down not so sure.

BTW, please show me one post where I or anyone else has said a RB can win you a game single-handedly?

You created a strawman argument that no one here has made.

All I am saying he has a chance of being a difference maker in January, especially in a cold weather city like Philly, where a running game and big plays from it, can help win you a game when you have a game manager for a QB and a great defense backing that up.

 

[PhillyRam]

Again how they won is just that they won those are actual/factual things that happened. Hypothetically speaking is just that it's grasping at straws.

And again I'm not saying he isn't a great player or cant help make a difference but inevitably that position is ultimately not known as a position that wins championships.

They blew a 24 point lead in the second half because they couldn't run the ball. That game could have gone either way at that point. Be real about that fact.