Tom Brady says the NFL is mediocre. Rodgers agrees.

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This is interesting. He’s right, but the existence of Tom Brady seems like the primary reason that the NFL has become what it is.
 

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So they both say it’s mediocre and neither of them are playing this season. People can believe whatever they want to believe.
 

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So they both say it’s mediocre and neither of them are playing this season. People can believe whatever they want to believe.
Did you listen to it? They are blaming the rule changes, especially on defense.

They are right but I think both have had their hand in those changes, especially Brady. They basically say that the rules don’t allow for players to develop to the same level of excellence as some of the greats, like Rey Lewis or Rod Woodson.
 

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I just posted in another thread. Once a ravens lineman brushed the golden boy's helmet with his pinky finger and the ref threw the flag.

Brady is the reason the qb can't be touched anymore. The refs wouldn't allow him to be touched so they had to throw flags for other qbs so it wouldn't look as blatant for him when he was cheating with the cheats.

Fuck I hate him.

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Two prima donnas what else do you need to know. Gee its about football and not them! Yeah how boring, thank god.
 

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"Boy back in my day..." :laugh3:

I think they are correct though.
 

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Did you listen to it? They are blaming the rule changes, especially on defense.

They are right but I think both have had their hand in those changes, especially Brady. They basically say that the rules don’t allow for players to develop to the same level of excellence as some of the greats, like Rey Lewis or Rod Woodson.
They may make good points; and they were both truly great quarterbacks.

It's just a little difficult to be objective hearing them speak and give their opinions.

They're just such Fucking Assholes.

Of course, if they had played their careers for the Rams, I would want to have their babies.
 

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OK... So since no one else will say it... FUCK Tom Brady and the cheating horse he rode in on.
 

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I think we need to overhaul the rules and take away what appears to be freedom of interpretation of them. It feels like the ref teams lack consistency in the way they interpret the rules as though it is done on a per play basis. I would like to see them rewritten to be applied in a more linear "letter of the law" fashion so that the grey area is removed. It either is or is not an infraction and then adjust the written law as needed. Ironically a lot of this started after the N.O championship game & the Robey Coleman hit
 

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It's all relative. I tell my son I'm blessed to have grown up in So Cal in the 60's. He laughs and says WTF did you do without cell phones? Different time different perspective, doesn't necessarily make one bettter than the other. My son says he's blessed to have grown up in San Diego with his cell phone. LOL

He's probably going to move back there in a few years. He can make a lot more money there than here. He's really a Lakers fan and still follows the Chargers (they were his hometown team growing up).
 

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Old men sitting on a park bench talking about the good ole days.

The older they get the better they were.

Here is a recent photo of our group (@CGI_Ram, @Dodgersrf, @Selassie I , @OldSchool and me) ...
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And, here is another of @Loyal and His Group ...
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They said defensive players such as Ray Lewis, Ronnie Lott and every Rams favorite Rodney Harrison would be penalized on every tackle they made because of the rules and for the most part they're right. Now they are some of the reasons the rules are as harsh as they are now. But they aren't wrong about how the game has evolved.
 

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It's all relative. I tell my son I'm blessed to have grown up in So Cal in the 60's. He laughs and says WTF did you do without cell phones? Different time different perspective, doesn't necessarily make one bettter than the other.
This is so true, it probably merits a separate "off topic" thread. We that were not raised with todays technology shouldn't assume one way is better by applying our ethos to their present challenges, coping mechanisms and social practices. I had some friends over this past weekend who were very critical of our younger generations lack of "in person interaction" I took the opposing view using the examples that our parents were critical of our practices but theirs weren't better but different. We adapt to our social make up and it doesn't make one better than another. As my friends left I turned to my wife an said we don't really have a lot of in person social interaction with friends however our son was upstairs this morning (he is 20 and home for Thanksgiving from college) speaking to his 2 buddies with his screen split that are both still away at school. Does their daily interactions have less value than our occasional in person interaction? I don't know but I wont assume nor judge. I could go on about some of the great conversations I have had with Millennial's & Gen X and the Gen Xers are going to do great things I truly believe it but not without enduring some crazy challenges finding themselves in the middle of a reset.
 

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I just posted in another thread. Once a ravens lineman brushed the golden boy's helmet with his pinky finger and the ref threw the flag.

Brady is the reason the qb can't be touched anymore. The refs wouldn't allow him to be touched so they had to throw flags for other qbs so it wouldn't look as blatant for him when he was cheating with the cheats.

Fuck I hate him.

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You realize brady has nothing to do with rule changes? That's done by the owners and CBA. Hate Brady all you want but he isn't the reason for the mentality of the league in it's current state.
 

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I just posted in another thread. Once a ravens lineman brushed the golden boy's helmet with his pinky finger and the ref threw the flag.

Brady is the reason the qb can't be touched anymore. The refs wouldn't allow him to be touched so they had to throw flags for other qbs so it wouldn't look as blatant for him when he was cheating with the cheats.

Fuck I hate him.

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Agree 1000%. It’s sad that what protected Brady and elevated his ability to succeed - is the very thing that he is now calling out. Doesn’t everyone remember the tantrum he threw when a Rams player dared to give him a little bloody lip in the playoff game. He’s a true narcissist that just feels the need to stay in the spotlight.
 

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You realize brady has nothing to do with rule changes? That's done by the owners and CBA. Hate Brady all you want but he isn't the reason for the mentality of the league in it's current state.
I know he didn’t change the rules, but a lot of the changes were made so that he could thrive. Plus, I never saw a QB bitch and moan to the refs like he did.

It seems ironic that he is now claiming the league is mediocre. He’s a big reason why.

I guess Mike Martz is too though. He really brought the downfield passing attacks with a high scoring offense back to the league. Coaches started copying and owners realized that offense sells tickets. I still would have liked to hear Brady and Rodgers voice their opinions against some of those changes back then.
 

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You realize brady has nothing to do with rule changes? That's done by the owners and CBA. Hate Brady all you want but he isn't the reason for the mentality of the league in it's current state.

Other than everyone in the league calling the change the "Tom Brady" rule?

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