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Todd Gurley can help Rams' run game but unfair to expect instant cure
By Nick Wagoner

http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-ra...ms-run-game-but-unfair-to-expect-instant-cure

EARTH CITY, Mo. -- Midway through Wednesday's practice, St. Louis Rams running back Todd Gurley darted through a hole and raced about 70 yards for a would-be touchdown against the backup defense.

From the sideline, the starting defense began shouting its approval as Gurley finished the run in the end zone.

"I heard them," Gurley said, smiling. "Coach always harps on us finishing our runs, and the hole was there and I felt good, my momentum just swung me to the end zone. That felt good."

The defense wasn't alone in using that run to picture what Gurley could do for the Rams' ailing offense if he's able to make his debut Sunday against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

To this point, Rams coach Jeff Fisher isn't tipping his hand on whether Gurley will play against the Steelers, but there seem to be some things trending in a positive direction.

First and foremost, Gurley is not listed on the team's injury report with the designation of "knee" as he bounces back from the torn ACL he suffered in November of last year. That represents a shift from the previous two weeks, in which Gurley was listed as out for Week 1 and then questionable despite being a full participant in all three days of reports last week.

Of course, this doesn't seem to be about ensuring that Gurley is healthy anymore. That much was obvious when he was cleared to practice without the yellow no-contact beanie.

"The doctors are fine," Fisher said. "Everybody's fine. It's just he needs the experience, he needs the reps so he can carry the confidence into the game."

That's why this week is mostly about getting Gurley those reps before an official decision is made. Gurley has talked about the need to get more work so that he can get into football shape and quarterback Nick Foles said Wednesday that Gurley is taking advantage of the work he's getting in practice this week to try to reach that goal.

"(He's) just trying to get acclimated, just trying to get his legs underneath him and getting used to running this offense," Foles said. "Getting used to the holes, where he's running, stuff like that. It's great having him out there."

At this point, it's clear that Gurley believes he's ready to play. When he was asked last week whether he would tell coaches he's ready to play if they wanted his opinion, Gurley said "I don't know." When the same question was posed Wednesday, Gurley said "Yeah, I would" and let out a big smile. In a followup question, Gurley was asked to rate how he feels on a scale of one to 10.

"Of course I'm going to say 10. You can't have me saying 7 or something on TV," Gurley said. "I feel good. I definitely feel like myself again."

When the time comes, Gurley being himself will likely mean becoming a focal point of the offense. But it's unfair and unrealistic to expect Gurley to be that in his first NFL game after not being tackled for nearly a year. That's not to say the Rams couldn't use a splashy start from him.

Thus far, the Rams' run game has been a disappointment, averaging 71.5 yards per game, which ranks 27th in the NFL. Many of those struggles can be attributed to an offensive line that hasn't opened many holes with backs unable to break tackles. The Rams are averaging just 0.92 yards per carry after contact through the first two games.

A healthy Gurley could offer a solution in that area. He averaged 3.9 yards after contact per rush last season at Georgia, best among Power 5 conference players with a minimum of 50 carries.

In time, the Rams hope and believe that Gurley can become that type of player again, but it would be asking a lot to think he could do that immediately upon entering the lineup.

Even if Gurley was capable of simply picking up where he left off in college, he might not get enough carries to do it for a few weeks. Earlier this week, Fisher acknowledged that the Rams would have a "pitch count" in place for Gurley with a targeted number of touches and snaps. He wouldn't reveal that plan but it might be instructive to note running back Tre Mason didn't play until game five last year as a rookie and received just six touches in his debut. And Mason wasn't coming off a torn ACL.

Despite his team's struggles getting the run game going, Fisher said the decision on Gurley won't be made from early-season desperation.

"No, Todd's going to play when he's ready to play," Fisher said. "It's a non-factor. I've been saying this since he got here, when he's ready, he's going to play regardless of what's happening around him. But he's getting closer."

Closer to playing in his first NFL game, but the role of centerpiece in the offense will probably have to wait a bit longer.
 

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He wouldn't reveal that plan but it might be instructive to note running back Tre Mason didn't play until game five last year as a rookie and received just six touches in his debut. And Mason wasn't coming off a torn ACL.

Mason also wasn't nearly as polished as Gurley was coming out. Georgia ran a pro style offense, you knew TG could catch, block, read blocks, and run the ball out of pro formations that we'll use. Mason coming out of Auburn was a little different. I'd say as soon as he's physically able to, he's ready for the game.
 

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If Todd Gurley is ready to go then i'm ready to see him out there. Would love to see him get 10-15 quality carries this Sunday vs the Steelers.

I honestly believe putting him and Tavon in the backfield on certain plays can also open up one on ones in the passing game off play action.

I really believe the Todd Gurley ERA begins Sunday and i can't wait.
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90% or 100%, Sunday made me realize that Tre isn't an elite back. I know it was his first game but he reminds me of a better Daryl Richardson(No, not because of the hair). He goes down easy and doesn't really push the pile. I think he needs a great Oline to be a great RB. You guys will see an enormous difference in the running game between Gurley and Mason. Compare it to Minnesota or Seattles rushing attack with and without Marshawn and Adrian. The Todd will ball out.
 

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90% or 100%, Sunday made me realize that Tre isn't an elite back. I know it was his first game but he reminds me of a better Daryl Richardson(No, not because of the hair). He goes down easy and doesn't really push the pile. I think he needs a great Oline to be a great RB. You guys will see an enormous difference in the running game between Gurley and Mason. Compare it to Minnesota or Seattles rushing attack with and without Marshawn and Adrian. The Todd will ball out.

I'm going to have to disagree with you about Mason. It's unfair to judge him last game considering he was just coming back from an injury and to my eyes wasn't 100% yet. I saw Mason run with authority and burst all last year. He finished a lot of his runs off violently. I don't think he goes down easy at all when fully fit.
 

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90% or 100%, Sunday made me realize that Tre isn't an elite back. I know it was his first game but he reminds me of a better Daryl Richardson(No, not because of the hair). He goes down easy and doesn't really push the pile. I think he needs a great Oline to be a great RB. You guys will see an enormous difference in the running game between Gurley and Mason. Compare it to Minnesota or Seattles rushing attack with and without Marshawn and Adrian. The Todd will ball out.
For those that say, "Don't expect too much from Gurley" As the self proclaimed, Un-Official ROD Historian, I say "Poop-on you! and Remember Eric Dickerson's 1st year! He tore-things-up!!"
Gurley has the potential to do the same thing. Even If he won't be playing in all 16 Games!!
 

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I'm going to have to disagree with you about Mason. It's unfair to judge him last game considering he was just coming back from an injury and to my eyes wasn't 100% yet. I saw Mason run with authority and burst all last year. He finished a lot of his runs off violently. I don't think he goes down easy at all when fully fit.

I'm with you. Mason is a solid back but injured in my mind.

He's not elite perhaps, but he's at the top of the next tier.
 

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The thing about elite backs .... They are just so rare.

In the entire league right now, there are 4:

AP
Bell
Lynch
Charles

Im not talking elite fantasy backs - those are stat based and can be influenced by all kinds of factors. I'm talking about special talents at the position that do things that other guys just can't do. There are multiple flavors but they are unmistakable when you see them in their prime. It took Charles and Lynch a while to find theirs. Bell and AP were more immediate.
 

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I'm going to have to disagree with you about Mason. It's unfair to judge him last game considering he was just coming back from an injury and to my eyes wasn't 100% yet. I saw Mason run with authority and burst all last year. He finished a lot of his runs off violently. I don't think he goes down easy at all when fully fit.
I respect your opinion. And I agree about him running with purpose and authority. But I think comparing him to the elite backs he just doesn't have it. Jeff Fisher teams need a great running back to win. Always have. Eddie George, Chris Johnson and now Gurley. If you noticed, a lot of Mason's good runs last year were after the line of scrimmage. 10, 15 yards before contact. That's where Gurley comes in and dominates the line of scrimmage.
 

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Schefter: It Would Be an Upset if Gurley Did Not Play Sunday

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For those that say, "Don't expect too much from Gurley" As the self proclaimed, Un-Official ROD Historian, I say "Poop-on you! and Remember Eric Dickerson's 1st year! He tore-things-up!!"
Gurley has the potential to do the same thing. Even If he won't be playing in all 16 Games!!


"The Dick" had Dennis Harrah, Jackie Slater, and Irv Pankey blocking for him.
 

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Schefter: It Would Be an Upset if Gurley Did Not Play Sunday

The NFL Insiders crew (Schefter, Caplan, Polian) discuss what to expect from St. Louis Rams RB Todd Gurley if he makes his season debut against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Watch NFL Insiders Talk Gurley

25% recurrence rate? That doesn't reassure me Polian. Hopefully we treat him right.
 

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"The Dick" had Dennis Harrah, Jackie Slater, and Irv Pankey blocking for him.
Just to be exact, Dickerson's O-Line, His 1st year, was:
* RT Slater
* RG Harrah
* C Doug Smith
* LG Kent Hill
* LT Bill Bain
This was Eric Dickerson's Starting O-Line his 1st Year.
(Per. Pro-Football-Reference.com)
 

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I don't expect him to be on the way to a 2000 yrd season but after all the hype just show me a glimmer of why the comparisons to Peterson. Give me something to show me my hopes of having a relevant football team are not unfounded.
 
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For those that say, "Don't expect too much from Gurley" As the self proclaimed, Un-Official ROD Historian, I say "Poop-on you! and Remember Eric Dickerson's 1st year! He tore-things-up!!"
Gurley has the potential to do the same thing. Even If he won't be playing in all 16 Games!!

I wish Gurley would be running behind a line 2/3 as good as the one ED had.
 

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Don't watch a ton of College ball, (big games and UCLA mostly), so I never saw Gurley at Georgia.
Saw LSU's Fournette last weekend - did TG look anything like that?