TNF - Rams at Seahawks

  • To unlock all of features of Rams On Demand please take a brief moment to register. Registering is not only quick and easy, it also allows you access to additional features such as live chat, private messaging, and a host of other apps exclusive to Rams On Demand.

CGI_Ram

Hamburger Connoisseur
Moderator
Joined
Jun 28, 2010
Messages
48,218
Name
Burger man

View: https://twitter.com/ramsnfl/status/1445906719532466180?s=21


Game Day Thread

The GDT is a live thread tradition here at ROD.

While we all get fired up watching the game, please remember our core principles;we always show respect for our team and each other.

Despite the emotional highs and lows watching a game, we will moderate this thread with that in mind, however please refrain from name calling. This applies to players, the Rams organization, and others.

This is the core rule of the GDT. Moderators are tasked to issue thread bans, at a minimum, to maintain this standard.

This is our team. Win or lose. Good days and bad. We are here for FUN, not to be dragged down.

A more loosely moderated atmosphere can be found in the chat room.

Go Rams!

———

ROD Chat Room;

Game Day Room
 

CGI_Ram

Hamburger Connoisseur
Moderator
Joined
Jun 28, 2010
Messages
48,218
Name
Burger man
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #2

Thursday Night Football: Los Angeles Rams vs. Seattle Seahawks​

Business is about to pick up for the "Thursday Night Football" television package as the Los Angeles Rams (3-1) will head up north to Lumen Field to take on the Seattle Seahawks (2-2) for a crucial NFC West showdown. This will be their first meeting since the Rams' 30-20 victory over the Seahawks in the NFC Wild Card Round of last season's playoffs.

It was an eventful trip down to Santa Clara last weekend as Seattle struggled mightily on offense until the end of the first half but never gave up and eventually defeated San Francisco 28-21. With the win, Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll avoided their first three-game losing streak during their time together. The Seahawks went three-and-out on their first five possessions before finding the end zone just before halftime to tie the game 7-7. Russell Wilson connected with DK Metcalf for a 12-yard touchdown strike and that gave Seattle enough momentum to carry into the second half.

Defensively, the Seahawks started to put together some things as far as playing as a team, generating pressure, and causing turnovers. Seattle had two takeaways while not giving the ball away, which is huge when you play a divisional opponent. The defense also seemed to gain a bit of confidence as the game went along, even though the unit had to adjust to facing a mobile quarterback in Trey Lance during the second half after Jimmy Garoppolo left the game with a calf injury.

Los Angeles, meanwhile, suffered its first loss of the 2021 season last season, getting dominated at home by Arizona 37-20. The Rams actually led 10-7 after the first quarter before the Kyler Murray-led Cardinals went on a scoring blitz and the defense frustrated Matthew Stafford and LA's offense. Stafford finished with 280 passing yards, two touchdowns, and an interception. Losing the turnover battle (-2) certainly didn't help the Rams' cause, especially since the defense gave up 465 yards to Murray and the Arizona offense. It seemed like the Cardinals could do whatever they wanted when they had the ball, as they not only ran for 216 yards, but produced 27 first downs, were 8-for-13 on third down, and had the ball for more than 35 minutes.

Thursday Night Football: Los Angeles (3-1) at Seattle (2-2)

Kickoff: Sunday, Oct. 3 at 8:20 p.m. ET
TV: FOX/NFL Network/Amazon Prime
Spread: Rams -1.5

Three Things to Watch

1. Seahawks' offense

The schedule-makers may have done Seattle a favor by giving the Seahawks a game against the 49ers and their defensive front in advance of playing Aaron Donald and the Rams. This allowed the offensive line to deal with a ton of physicality, which they will see even more of on Thursday night. Left tackle Duane Brown did a nice job of containing Nick Bosa, who had one sack and three quarterback hits. Wilson is certainly capable of moving around in the pocket or making something happen with his legs, which is exactly what we did on a 16-yard touchdown run in the third quarter to put Seattle ahead for good.

Wilson will need to keep his head on a swivel and get rid of the football quickly on Thursday night, as Donald and Co. are no doubt frustrated after what transpired last Sunday against Murray. Los Angeles was credited with three sacks, but for the most part, Murray consistently evaded the Rams' pass rushers, which in turn helped wear the defense down. Los Angeles enters this game 27th in the NFL in total defense (396.8 ypg) and 25th against the pass (273.3 ypg), which almost seem like typos considering the Rams were first in both categories last season. But it's only been four games, and you know they will want to put forth a better effort after getting thoroughly outclassed at home last week. Wilson and the Seahawks will no doubt look to take their shots downfield, so this game could come down to which version of the Rams' defense shows up on Thursday night.

2. Rams' patience on offense

One underrated thing that Los Angeles has done well over the years in its matchups in Seattle is showing patience on offense. Rams head coach Sean McVay never seems to panic when he brings his team to the Pacific Northwest, and now he has his hand-picked quarterback with him. Stafford will pose a big challenge for the Seahawks' secondary as wide receivers Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods, Van Jefferson, and DeSean Jackson are all capable of breaking a game open at any moment.

The running game will be another key for LA, with Seattle giving up 152 rushing yards per game, the most in the league. Darrell Henderson Jr. returned from missing the Week 3 game because of a rib injury to run for 89 yards and average a robust 6.4 per carry against Arizona. If the Rams can run the ball effectively early, that will only make things easier for Stafford, who has already shown what he's capable of doing in this offense. The line also will need to do its part by staying disciplined and avoid unnecessary penalties while dealing with all of the crowd noise provided by the 12s.

3. Seahawks' defense

These guys are what they are four games into the 2021 season, as the lack of a dominant shutdown corner is a problem that won’t magically disappear anytime soon. Thus, the margin for error is very thin for this group to have success on a given day. And the numbers back this up, as Seattle has the worst total defense in the league (444.5 ypg) in addition to having the worst run defense. The matchup with Los Angeles is not ideal because the Rams are fourth in the league in passing (298.3 ypg) and sixth in scoring (28.8 ppg) offense. The Seahawks will have to play disciplined, assignment-sound football and probably come up with a few turnovers to have a real shot at limiting Los Angeles' attack. The Rams' scheme shouldn't be much of a mystery since Seattle runs a similar version under new offensive coordinator Shane Waldron, who previously served on McVay's staff.

The Seahawks also must limit the number of explosive plays they give up. Last week, Deebo Samuel's 76-yard touchdown catch late in the third quarter helped put San Francisco back in the game. As has already been mentioned, Los Angeles doesn't lack for guys with big-play ability. Putting pressure on Stafford would certainly help Seattle's cause, but that will be easier said than done. Stafford has been sacked just 2.2 percent on his pass attempts, the lowest rate in the league. Bottom line, if the Seahawks allow Stafford to have a clean pocket, they will be in trouble all night long.

Final Analysis

Seattle did the best job between these two teams last week in terms of their overall competitive mindset, as Los Angeles just couldn't keep up with Arizona at home and looked out of it. The short week always makes things interesting as far as how a team responds to that situation. Look for the Seahawks to come out with plenty of energy early on to keep this game close into the second half. However, the Rams seem to have Seattle’s number and, until proven otherwise, are going to find a way to grind out a close win on Thursday night.

Prediction: Rams 27, Seahawks 23
 

CGI_Ram

Hamburger Connoisseur
Moderator
Joined
Jun 28, 2010
Messages
48,218
Name
Burger man
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #5
tenor.gif
 

Loyal

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jul 27, 2010
Messages
29,689
Here's to the Defense, Past and Present....

SrzvcRA.gif

DljCxAL.gif
 

CGI_Ram

Hamburger Connoisseur
Moderator
Joined
Jun 28, 2010
Messages
48,218
Name
Burger man
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #12

Seahawks vs. Rams how to watch: TV channel, live stream, pick, what to know for 'Thursday Night Football'​

The NFL's best division is off to a fantastic start, with the NFC West's four teams combining for an 11-5 record and every team sporting a positive point differential. Two of that division's stalwarts square off in this week's edition of "Thursday Night Football", as the Seattle Seahawks play host to the Los Angeles Rams.

Each team is coming off another game against a division opponent. The Seahawks evened their record at 2-2 by defeating the 49ers last Sunday, while the Rams dropped to 3-1 after being handed their first loss of the season by the Cardinals. Can Seattle keep the good times rolling? Will L.A. get back on track?

Let's break down the matchup. But first, here's how you can watch Thursday night's festivities.

How to watch
Date: Thursday, Oct. 7 | Time: 8:20 p.m. ET
Location: Lumen Field (Seattle)
TV: Fox/NFLN | Stream: fuboTV
Follow: CBS Sports App
Odds: Rams -2.5, O/U 54.5

When the Rams have the ball

The Rams are coming off an uncharacteristically poor offensive showing against the Cardinals. They'd previously blitzed the Bears, Colts, and Buccaneers for a combined 95 points, but totaled only 20 against Arizona. Matthew Stafford looked rattled and inaccurate, and it seemed pressure affected him a bit more than usual. He was pressured on only around a quarter of his dropbacks, per TruMedia, but was only 5 of 11 for 71 yards on those players. (He was previously 11 of 21 for 211 yards and three touchdowns.) The Seahawks will be looking to force him into a similarly inefficient performance on Thursday night.

The Seahawks have actually generated pressure ever-so-slightly more often than the Cardinals this season (33 percent of opponent dropbacks vs. 32.5 percent), but still check in just below the league average (33.5 percent). The issue is those pressures have not affected opposing passers in the same way: Arizona has forced Stafford, Trevor Lawrence, Kirk Cousins, and Ryan Tannehill into just 19 of 43 passing (44.2 percent) for 211 yards (4.9 per attempt) on pressured throws, with three touchdowns, three interceptions, and nine sacks; Seattle has held Carson Wentz, Tannehill, Cousins, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Trey Lance to 24 of 43 (55.8 percent) for for 250 yards (5.8 per attempt), yielding one touchdown, zero picks, and nine sacks. Arizona has allowed only 1 yard per scramble, while Seattle has given up 8.3 per.

Working against the Seahawks defense in third particular matchup is their heavy reliance on zone coverage. Seattle has been in zone on 81.9 percent of opponent passing plays, per TruMedia, the second-highest rate of zone coverage in the league. Stafford has largely ripped up zones so far, completing 68 of 99 passes (68.7 percent) for 931 yards (9.4 per attempt), five touchdowns, and two picks, while ranking third in EPA per play. He and Cooper Kupp, in particular, have routinely been able to take advantage of opponents in zone, with Kupp finding soft spots between, behind, and otherwise far away from defenders and Stafford targeting him with regularity. Robert Woods hasn't been as involved as he typically is, but he's another excellent zone beater and the Rams have been talking about wanting to get him more involved.

If the Seahawks move to more man coverages, the Rams should have advantages across the board. Kupp will have a much easier time with Ugo Amadi in the slot than he did with Byron Murphy last week, while Woods, Van Jefferson, and DeSean Jackson don't figure to be challenged much by Sidney Jones (or the recently benched Tre Flowers) and D.J. Reed, who have left much to be desired in coverage this season. The one area where the Seahawks should be able to handle the Rams in coverage is with Bobby Wagner against either Tyler Higbee or Darrell Henderson, but we've seen the Rams survive and even thrive with those players being minimally involved in the proceedings (at least through the air).

Henderson returned to nearly full-time lead-back duties after sitting out Week 3 due to injury, and he's run extremely well behind what has been one of the NFL's better offensive lines in the early going. Seattle has allowed a slightly below-average 1.52 yards before contact per rush this season, per TruMedia, but has been among the league's worst teams at containing players following broken tackles. Ensuring that Henderson is dropped to the ground on first contact will be paramount, especially given his long-range speed.

When the Seahawks have the ball

Predictably, the Seahawks' preseason insistence that they would run an uptempo, modernized offense under new offensive coordinator Shane Waldron (formerly of the Rams) has not been borne out on the field. Pete Carroll insists every offseason that he wants to do things differently, and then he doesn't. The identity or history of the offensive coordinator doesn't really matter.

Seattle ranks 18th in situation-neutral seconds per snap, according to Football Outsiders, and is actually operating around seven-tenths of a second slower than last year. The Seahawks rank middle of the pack in early-down pass rate, and they've been among the most static offenses in the NFL, utilizing pre-snap motion on only 28.3 percent of plays (fourth-lowest in the league, per TruMedia). Even the team's play-action pass rate (which was expected to be a big emphasis) has barely budged, coming in just over 30 percent compared to 27 percent a year ago.

And yet, despite ALL of that, the Seahawks rank among the most efficient offenses in the NFL, largely because they are quarterbacked by Russell Wilson. Seattle sits fourth in Football Outsiders' offensive DVOA and is tied for eighth in overall EPA per play. When the Seahawks have deigned to let him throw the ball on early downs, Wilson has been electric. He sits in a tie for second in EPA per play on those dropbacks, completing 71 of 86 passes for 866 yards, seven touchdowns, and zero interceptions.

Whether or not they'll allow him to do so against the Rams is an open question. Defensive coordinator Raheem Morris has kept many of the principles of last year's Brandon Staley-led defense in place, as the Rams lead the NFL (by far) in plays with six or fewer defenders in the box. They dare opponents to run the ball by their very alignment, and opponents have obliged them fairly often. Seattle ranks 11th in run rate into light boxes this year, but only 19th in EPA per rush attempt on those plays. (They haven't been much better with the pass, sitting just 15th in EPA per play, with their relative struggles against two-high safety looks that cropped up last year, carrying over a bit into this season.)

Chris Carson has seen his workload cut in recent weeks in favor of Alex Collins and Travis Homer, with the former cutting into early-down snaps and Homer taking on more of a third-down and passing-situation role. Collins ran more effectively than Carson last week against San Francisco, but has largely been a replacement-level back during his career, while Carson has been more than that. It seems wise to expect that Carson will regain his role at some point, perhaps as soon as this week, and that he'll get back to being the physical, downhill runner he's been for the majority of his tenure. (Carson did not practice all week, though, so this might not be the week where he reascends.) How wise it would be for Seattle to make him the focus of the game plan against L.A. is a different story.

One interesting thing to watch, matchup-wise, is where Jalen Ramsey lines up for the Rams. Last year, he shadowed DK Metcalf. This year, he's aligned in the slot far more often, which would pit him against Tyler Lockett. Metcalf is healthier than Lockett at the moment, and would have an enormous size mismatch against No. 2 corner Darious Williams on the outside, if the Rams were to use Ramsey in the role he's played for most of this season. It's notable that Lockett went off in Weeks 1 and 2 but suffered a minor injury in Week 3, and Metcalf has been the team's top target the last two weeks. Where the Rams elect to deploy Ramsey could dictate how the Seattle has to attack in this matchup, and if Lockett is still banged up, that could make things more difficult.

The Rams have given up more big plays this year than you'd expect given the design of their defensive scheme, and Wilson is always liable to break contain, freelance, and hit Metcalf or Lockett (or Freddie Swain, or whoever) for a shot down the field. The Rams will have to maintain their coverage responsibilities for longer than they're used to, though having played against Kyler Murray last week at least makes them a bit more prepared to do so.

Prediction: Rams 31, Seahawks 23
 

Loyal

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jul 27, 2010
Messages
29,689
I’m gonna piss some folks off, but let’s go 5 wide and let Stafford cook. The Hawk secondary isn’t that good and I want a blow out of Seattle by half time.
 

RamFanWA

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Oct 15, 2015
Messages
3,170
Name
DavidG
The sun is getting lower this time of year - but I am hoping that DK Metcalf has a shadow with a #5 on it...
..and by the end of the night he does not know what a football even feels like. :helmet:
 

jap

Legend
Joined
Jan 12, 2013
Messages
6,554
The Horns should be on a mission to atone for the lack of focus in last weekend's game. We'll take care of the desert birds later on, but Russell and his 'Hawks will have to suffer while we vent our frustrations in disciplined expressions as we return to playing Rams football.
 

payote75

Hall of Fame
Joined
Aug 17, 2017
Messages
3,890
Name
Payote75
We can all agree this is an important game I would of thought we win at home against the cardinals and then take our chances here however it has now worked out differently as we know.

That said it's an important game but is it me or is everyone tired of pundits/media just saying the same thing every week. "Important game for Stafford" "this will tell us if Stafford can be clutch" "Stafford is a perennial loser let's see how he responds" Stafford Stafford Stafford as of he plays all positions.

Yes it's crucial he play well but what about the rest of the team or particularly the Defense? What about a monster game from AD or Floyd or Ramsey? Special teams? Turnovers? Stafford can throw for 500 yds and 5 touchdowns doesn't matter if you give up more points. It's a team sport if everyone does there job well more times than not we should win. Instead it's just Stafford then the meh defense!!! Which has been our greatest problem.
 

jap

Legend
Joined
Jan 12, 2013
Messages
6,554
AD99 has sacked Russell more than any human alive (except for Russell's wife/girlfriend). I would think AD is always motivated to push that record beyond reach of anyone else. If the 'Hawks overkey on AD, then somebody has to get Russell. If AD cannot get him directly, then he must get him by making the sacks easier for others.