Tight End class in draft

[muggmeister]

That's a big ass leap of faith there on the pro comparison. Not saying he won't be good but TE is extremely hard to play in the NFL. Only TE I personally saw that I knew was going to ball out was Bowers as he way more than passed the eyeball test. I think it would be beyond dumb of the Rams to trade multiple assets for a TE when you take into account the depth of the class. There's a reason the Rams are visiting other TEs that are more likely to be in their range. The Rams still have holes to fill and trading up and expecting a TE to trump that is crazy to me. I'll pose a more realistic question to you since you seem way more inclined with supporting a trade up. What would you be ok with the Rams giving up to trade up for Warren?

Although I have not seen every Penn State game, when I did, every game he stood out like a man playing against boys. He just looks like the perfect TE. He also can contribute in the blocking game, although it's not his strength it isn't a weakness like Bowers. We all have different opinions, I just see something special in him.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Although I have not seen every Penn State game, when I did, every game he stood out like a man playing against boys. He just looks like the perfect TE. He also can contribute in the blocking game, although it's not his strength it isn't a weakness like Bowers. We all have different opinions, I just see something special in him.

Kudos to you for feeling that way, nothing wrong with that. I say no way in hell is he anything near the weapon Bowers is. Bowers flat out dominated in college like no other, I literally just heard of Warren this year. Bowers reset the record books in his rookie season so it is extremely rare and unfair to expect that of any player. Now with that said, if Warren comes close to that, he'll be a good pick up for sure. I personally don't think he's worth the trade up and lost assets. We still have other positions to consider such as CB, LB, backup swing OT, developmental QB. How on earth do we get that if we trade up for Warren? He's going to go high in the draft and the compensation to go get him will not be cheap. With the extremely slight chance he falls, then in that scenario the Rams may be more tempted, but I'd personally say no as this draft is extremely deep for TEs to get great value.

 

[jjab360]

FWIW, Rams may go with an eat your veggies offensive weapon at tackle who plays sparingly this year.

Idk about that, Snead has historically gone for instant impact/game changing type players in the first round

 

[WestCoastRam]

Idk about that, Snead has historically gone for instant impact/game changing type players in the first round

He's had soooooo many first round picks to develop a mental model!

 

[WestCoastRam]

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[Elmgrovegnome]

Kudos to you for feeling that way, nothing wrong with that. I say no way in hell is he anything near the weapon Bowers is. Bowers flat out dominated in college like no other, I literally just heard of Warren this year. Bowers reset the record books in his rookie season so it is extremely rare and unfair to expect that of any player. Now with that said, if Warren comes close to that, he'll be a good pick up for sure. I personally don't think he's worth the trade up and lost assets. We still have other positions to consider such as CB, LB, backup swing OT, developmental QB. How on earth do we get that if we trade up for Warren? He's going to go high in the draft and the compensation to go get him will not be cheap. With the extremely slight chance he falls, then in that scenario the Rams may be more tempted, but I'd personally say no as this draft is extremely deep for TEs to get great value.

I wouldn’t be too quick to judge Warren for late production. There are many factors involved. To start with he had a few very good, tight ends ahead of him (Friermuth 21’, Strange 23’, Theo Johnson 24’). Plus he never played Tight end in high school. He was a QB and had offers to play QB in college. So he had to learn the position.

I felt Warren was clearly Penn State’s best tight end in 2023 even though he wasn’t the top guy. Then the real game changer was hiring the new offensive Coordinator Andy Kotelnicki. He knew how to use the tight end position much better than the more ‘receiver reliant’ Mike Yurcich. Kotelnicki instantly saw Warren’s potential and raved about his football IQ. He was able to get creative with Warren.

Tyler Warren isn’t the same type of tight end as Bowers is, but he’s very good in his own rights. I’d be fine with the Rams trading up for him, because if they think he’s worth sacrificing picks for, then they obviously feel he will be an important piece for their offense. I just don’t think it’s likely for them to be able to trade up that far from 26.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I wouldn’t be too quick to judge Warren for late production. There are many factors involved. To start with he had a few very good, tight ends ahead of him (Friermuth 21’, Strange 23’, Theo Johnson 24’). Plus he never played Tight end in high school. He was a QB and had offers to play QB in college. So he had to learn the position.

I felt Warren was clearly Penn State’s best tight end in 2023 even though he wasn’t the top guy. Then the real game changer was hiring the new offensive Coordinator Andy Kotelnicki. He knew how to use the tight end position much better than the more ‘receiver reliant’ Mike Yurcich. Kotelnicki instantly saw Warren’s potential and raved about his football IQ. He was able to get creative with Warren.

Tyler Warren isn’t the same type of tight end as Bowers is, but he’s very good in his own rights. I’d be fine with the Rams trading up for him, because if they think he’s worth sacrificing picks for, then they obviously feel he will be an important piece for their offense. I just don’t think it’s likely for them to be able to trade up that far from 26.

Honestly I'm just stating Bowers prowess to show exactly why it was obvious dude was gonna be a baller. He literally was in the Heisman running as a TE, thats fucking insane. Not saying Warren can't be any good but I'm also saying he's no sure thing like a Bowers. My concern is the same as yours, I think trading up for him is gonna to be to big of a chasm to cross. If he somehow falls further than anyone expects then at that point I would definitely understand moving up because then the assets we lose, hopefully, aren't going to be as bad. I just still don't think it's personally a good mood considering how deep this TE class is.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Honestly I'm just stating Bowers prowess to show exactly why it was obvious dude was gonna be a baller. He literally was in the Heisman running as a TE, thats fucking insane. Not saying Warren can't be any good but I'm also saying he's no sure thing like a Bowers. My concern is the same as yours, I think trading up for him is gonna to be to big of a chasm to cross. If he somehow falls further than anyone expects then at that point I would definitely understand moving up because then the assets we lose, hopefully, aren't going to be as bad. I just still don't think it's personally a good mood considering how deep this TE class is.

The Rams also tried to trade up to draft Dalton Kincaid, and he’s not as good as either Warren or Bowers.

I wouldn’t rule anything out. When McVay gets stuck on a prospect Les tries to make it happen. But the lack of top talent in this draft likely pushes Warren and Loveland near, or into the top ten. I guess if they like one enough maybe they trade a first in 2026 to get a deal done. Without a second round pick this year it would be impossible to move that far without using next year’s draft.

There is so many directions they can go now that they have addressed the biggest concerns in free agency.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

The Rams also tried to trade up to draft Dalton Kincaid, and he’s not as good as either Warren or Bowers.

I wouldn’t rule anything out. When McVay gets stuck on a prospect Les tries to make it happen. But the lack of top talent in this draft likely pushes Warren and Loveland near, or into the top ten. I guess if they like one enough maybe they trade a first in 2026 to get a deal done. Without a second round pick this year it would be impossible to move that far without using next year’s draft.

There is so many directions they can go now that they have addressed the biggest concerns in free agency.

No way I'd trade a 2026 1st rounder, especially considering next year's QB class will be much stronger. Standing pat got us Jared Verse last year. Think the Rams should hold on to those picks, but not up to me ultimately lol

 

[Kupped]

With Parkinson and Higbee still on the roster... and with Adams in the fold.. I'm starting to think TE is going to be 3rd round or later.

Much more important to draft a tackle in this "win now" mode, imo.

 

[So Ram]

With Parkinson and Higbee still on the roster... and with Adams in the fold.. I'm starting to think TE is going to be 3rd round or later.

Much more important to draft a tackle in this "win now" mode, imo.

Keep thinking moving up to get Campbell is what’s needed most.
You want to talk about The Rams biggest need & a Top Line Player.
5 seasons with a player like that would be priceless.
—I’m not saying a OT is not important to have.

 

[Kupped]

Keep thinking moving up to get Campbell is what’s needed most.
You want to talk about The Rams biggest need & a Top Line Player.
5 seasons with a player like that would be priceless.
—I’m not saying a OT is not important to have.

I'm saying you've already added a playmaker to open up the field for the guys you already have.
What you don't have is any depth at all at tackle.

 

[So Ram]

I'm saying you've already added a playmaker to open up the field for the guys you already have.
What you don't have is any depth at all at tackle.

Agree - Noteboom is thankfully gone & The Rams need a LT for the future. I’d say if the value is there of course that should & probably will be the pick ?
Then again Jihaad Campbell would be AWESOME as The Rams MLB.Your talking the center of the field.

 

[PhillyRam]

With Parkinson and Higbee still on the roster... and with Adams in the fold.. I'm starting to think TE is going to be 3rd round or later.

Much more important to draft a tackle in this "win now" mode, imo.

Agree... CB, LB, or a BPA who fell that you just can't pass up is what I expect to occur at 26 or after a small trade down.

 

[So Ram]

Kudos to you for feeling that way, nothing wrong with that. I say no way in hell is he anything near the weapon Bowers is. Bowers flat out dominated in college like no other, I literally just heard of Warren this year. Bowers reset the record books in his rookie season so it is extremely rare and unfair to expect that of any player. Now with that said, if Warren comes close to that, he'll be a good pick up for sure. I personally don't think he's worth the trade up and lost assets. We still have other positions to consider such as CB, LB, backup swing OT, developmental QB. How on earth do we get that if we trade up for Warren? He's going to go high in the draft and the compensation to go get him will not be cheap. With the extremely slight chance he falls, then in that scenario the Rams may be more tempted, but I'd personally say no as this draft is extremely deep for TEs to get great value.

The Rams lost Hunter Long,but that being said Higbee really impressed & Parkisian was signed to a big contract.

One of the biggest disappointments though was Davies Allen in 2025.He went from 10 catches for 95 yards & a TD to
6 catches for 39 yard NO TDs.I still like the kid,but a faster more athletic TD like Mcvay had in Washington might be a need.He’s never took Evert over Kittle.Little will be a HOF TE.

Bowers was my fantasy TE,but never watch much Raiders football.Warren for a TE is impressive.He’s the whole package,but like you said about Bowers? He’s had rookie of the year numbers.The Rams tried to move up for him.

 

[So Ram]

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This seems to be a measurement The Rams love to use.Mcvay is not a big 40’s guy.Of course they use it,but that game day speed helps judge a player with Pads.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I wouldn’t be too quick to judge Warren for late production. There are many factors involved. To start with he had a few very good, tight ends ahead of him (Friermuth 21’, Strange 23’, Theo Johnson 24’). Plus he never played Tight end in high school. He was a QB and had offers to play QB in college. So he had to learn the position.

I felt Warren was clearly Penn State’s best tight end in 2023 even though he wasn’t the top guy. Then the real game changer was hiring the new offensive Coordinator Andy Kotelnicki. He knew how to use the tight end position much better than the more ‘receiver reliant’ Mike Yurcich. Kotelnicki instantly saw Warren’s potential and raved about his football IQ. He was able to get creative with Warren.

This kinda goes along with my point regarding this deep TE draft class. Sure talent is necessary for production. But so are situations and opportunities. There are other talented TEs in this deep TE draft class who if they were featured on offense like Warren and Fannin could be all the rage, too.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

This kinda goes along with my point regarding this deep TE draft class. Sure talent is necessary for production. But so are situations and opportunities. There are other talented TEs in this deep TE draft class who if they were featured on offense like Warren and Fannin could be all the rage, too.

Maybe. You don’t know if they would have excelled in those offenses or not. Physically they look like they could but how do you know that they could still get open despite being the primary weapon in the passing game? Most tight ends operate as a secondary pass threat. They don’t get the focus of the opponents defense. That’s akin to saying any tight ends play on the Chiefs could do what Kelce does, or what Kittle does for the 49ers because it’s only about the scheme.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

No way I'd trade a 2026 1st rounder, especially considering next year's QB class will be much stronger. Standing pat got us Jared Verse last year. Think the Rams should hold on to those picks, but not up to me ultimately lol

I’m not saying I would make that trade. I’m saying that I could see McVay making that trade. If he thinks Warren or Less bland are the pieces he’s been missing on offense then he will want to draft them. I don’t even think Snead would want to do it. But just like last year, they tried to move up for Bowers despite huge needs on defense. McVay always craves offensive weapons.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I'm saying you've already added a playmaker to open up the field for the guys you already have.
What you don't have is any depth at all at tackle.

We don’t know how they feel about Leviston. But I agree. They could go a number of directions