Thoughts on our OL currently

[Limey]

Interesting article by Vinnie on Demby.

The clutch performance off the bench that helped the Rams find their groove

With the help of reserve lineman Jamil Demby, Jared Goff and the Rams offense found their rhythm in a 27-9 win over New Orleans.

theathletic.co.uk

 

[Ramhusker]

It's not panic time but I'm sure if a viable option at OL were to shake loose from a roster, the Rams would look like my dog when I rattle the snack bag!

 

[LA_Rams_#29]

Well 1st time in the red zone allen cost us 5. Second time in the red zone boom cost us a touch down. So could have been better.

that was a terrible call on Boom...

 

[bubbaramfan]

forget putting havenstien at G. They tried that when they drafted him and he was horrible

 

[BonifayRam]

The RG Austin Blythe injury is very bad news we all knew we were very weak @ RG & that's where the injury took place. I believe Kromer has been fully aware of his problem he is no Paul F. Boudreau or Steve Loney!

Jamil Demby playing history is all based @ LT before he arrived here. JD was never going to earn a living @ playing OT in the NFL. Kromer has been working JD all over the place. All five OL posts have been tasted by JD. Most have tasted like .

We have watched JD for two pre seasons now & we do have an ideal where JD has turned in his best performances.....it was Left OG. JD was just much more comfortable with the left side......now its mandated that he will make himself comfortable & dependable, or he will be watching the game in street clothes again. JD is just going to have to react faster in his blocks .....he is seriously retarded in getting off.

I would expect Kromer will ride JD for now @ RG. Kromer is not without some OL'ers who have played the RG post in preseason......David Edwards, Bobby Evans, Jeremiah Kolone & Chandler Brewer. Plus he has our newest acquired OL'er center Coleman Shelton in standby mode too.

That's FIVE reserve OL'ers under contract with the Rams earning a paycheck for work performed. Now we will see who steps up @ this time to secure his future in the NFL. Kromer's got this!

 

[Zaphod]

Our OL did give up pressure, but I put all of those sacks more on Goff TBH.

Obviously the third one we shouldn't be counting at all - Goff went down to keep the clock running, otherwise he throws the ball away.

The first two though - Goff needs to step up. Havenstein should not be expected to block Cam Jordan one on one with consistent success, so Goff needed to be aware of that and slide away or step up. On both I think he could have stepped up in the pocket.

I agree, I just would put that blame on the play calling. McVay adjusted and they clearly got better.

And you make a great point with Goff being smart to hold onto the ball to run down the clock.

 

[BonifayRam]

It's not panic time but I'm sure if a viable option at OL were to shake loose from a roster, the Rams would look like my dog when I rattle the snack bag!

I am thinking it will be rookie UDFA OG Chandler Brewer husker....have you fired up your generators lately?

 

[Zaphod]

The RG Austin Blythe injury is very bad news we all knew we were very weak @ RG & that's where the injury took place. I believe Kromer has been fully aware of his problem he is no Paul F. Boudreau or Steve Loney!

Jamil Demby playing history is all based @ LT before he arrived here. JD was never going to earn a living @ playing OT in the NFL. Kromer has been working JD all over the place. All five OL posts have been tasted by JD. Most have tasted like .

We have watched JD for two pre seasons now & we do have an ideal where JD has turned in his best performances.....it was Left OG. JD was just much more comfortable with the left side......now its mandated that he will make himself comfortable & dependable, or he will be watching the game in street clothes again. JD is just going to have to react faster in his blocks .....he is seriously retarded in getting off.

I would expect Kromer will ride JD for now @ RG. Kromer is not without some OL'ers who have played the RG post in preseason......David Edwards, Bobby Evans, Jeremiah Kolone & Chandler Brewer. Plus he has our newest acquired OL'er center Coleman Shelton in standby mode too.

That's FIVE reserve OL'ers under contract with the Rams earning a paycheck for work performed. Now we will see who steps up @ this time to secure his future in the NFL. Kromer's got this!

So you think there may be a chance that someone besides Demby could start against the Browns at right guard assuming Blythe is out?

 

[bubbaramfan]

WTF does Kromer see in Demby that all of us don't?

 

[fearsomefour]

Old School is right on with his take....

Concerns for the OL and offense is fine.
With two, now three green lineman getting playing time it be foolish to not have concerns.
But, the Rams have played two very good front sevens, one on the road. They are 2-0 and have put up 30 and 27 points.
It’s a good start.
Goff was sacked three times yesterday. But, there plenty of times he stood back there for 3-4 seconds.
As an aside. The great play by Kupp he ran a double move. Except Kupp really sold, taking a couple of steps back toward the Saints sideline then reversing course and heading up field. Very hard for any DB to cover that.
His run after.....um, Id say he trusts his repaired knee.

 

[GabesHorn]

I’ve seen far worse lines today.

I’m encouraged by our recent history of keeping the same guys out there. I believe last year we started the same five every game?

So my thoughts are that even if we can’t do that this year, the starters will rub off on the backups and all the guys in the linemen’s room will work together to get the best out of each other.

The key is to keep these guys tight, close, and keep them together and make in game recognitions and adjustments when someone is overwhelmed.

Speaking of tight...I’d hope we keep TE’s in tight to help out if needed. It may shrink the playbook alittle, but our TE’s, they really are good blockers imo

Actually the RAMS have had TWO YEARS of no injuries on our offensive line and that in itself is almost a miracle in this NFL we know. I love Allen and Noteboom and how we drafted them in 3rd and 4th round and successfully had them redshirt a full season with no injuries on the offensive line again last season. Well we finally had an injury as I yet have no information of blythe's ankl MRI. Praying for him and knowing Big fat Demby has played every snap almost in all four pre-season games and played like he did once he stepped off the bench yesterday. Some are saying he improved magically as the game went on. I say go back and watch the film as Edwards has been put in our Famous RedShirt protocol with our other draftee from Oklahoma and that great starting five who are now scattered amoung the league of the NFL.

We have another Wisconsin guy like Havenstein was and he took time with Jamon Brown to finally become a solid offensive right tackle that Cam Jordan took to school yesterday as Hav had 3 holding calls I am aware of and a team can't have that. The taints had 5 holding calls on them and see what that did to them. We need to get our proper set piece in place FIRST then we start to let THAT bunch start to gell. Must have a solid front three as we all learned that from our loss in the SB when our older vet center broke don and we could not have Goff figuring out all the DB's on the field along with pressure up the middle. Pressure up the middle normally ends it for all qb's as it did Brees and his backup as Donald beat the saints 1st round high pick rookie center all game long. The patriots have the best nose tackle in the NFL #71 and he is a giant compared to Brian Allen from Michigan State and state wrestling Champ. I love Brian Allen but we need more talent at offensive right guard like we have Noteboom at offensive left guard as we are planning him to fill in for big whit once he retires.

Either Snead finds someone or we start working a new plan and player. We did pick up a player that can backup at center but I don't want to disrupt Brian Allen. Just waiting on MRI results before I really get concerned.

 

[BonifayRam]

Sean McVay credits Jamil Demby for stepping in against Saints

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Steve Rebeiro is a staff writer for Rams Wire. Additionally, Steve also covers fantasy football at Roto Baller and hosts the Butting Heads podcast on Rams Talk Radio. He is an alumni of Marquette University.

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The Rams suffered a major blow to their offensive line during the second quarter of their Week 2 matchup with the Saints. Right guard Austin Blythe suffered a painful-looking ankle injury midway through the second quarter and did not return to the game. Second-year guard Jamil Demby took over at right guard.

Demby had a brutal 2019 preseason and has been underwhelming during his short career. It was a scary sight for Rams fans to see him trot onto the field in a crucial matchup with the Saints. Oddly enough, the world didn’t end, and Demby performed well enough to help the Rams defeat the Saints.

“He did a nice job,” Sean McVay said regarding Demby’s performance. “To be able to lose a player of Austin Blythe’s caliber, that’s a big loss for us. But he seamlessly stepped in. Until I really go back and look at the tape, but it seemed like he did a nice job just fitting in.”

It’s a nice vote of confidence for a guy who probably needed it. Demby has had a bizarre career up until this point. A sixth-round pick in the 2018 NFL Draft, Demby played well in the 2018 preseason and earned a roster spot with the Rams. He was cut after Week 1 and was claimed on waivers by the Lions, who cut him a week later and signed him to their practice squad. The Rams re-signed Demby off of Detroit’s practice squad late in the 2018 season, and he’s remained with the team since.

Demby was one of the most disappointing players on the team this preseason. He basically made the team by default, as the Rams had no better options on the offensive line. It was a frightening site for Rams fans when he checked into the game on Sunday.
The second-year guard had a quiet game against New Orleans. For an offensive lineman, that’s typically a compliment.

“It really was a great job by Jamil stepping in,” McVay added. “I’m excited to really look closely at it to see how he did snap in and snap out.” If Blythe isn’t ready to go against the Browns next Sunday, Demby will be in line to make his first career start in primetime action.

 

[ramsince62]

We now have three new starters on the interior, and Jared is typically at his worst with pressure in his face. Today he bounced back and played really well in the 2nd half under duress, but can we expect that moving forward?? He hasn't shown he can do that consistently enough thus far. The interior o-line is going to be a problem and I think McVay has to run the ball more because of the youth. We need to limit the 5 and 7 step drops per game and try to move to a more quick passing attack. Sometimes Goff holds the ball too long and with this o-line he's either going to get killed or continue fumbling.

Due to the circumstances above, I'd opine that a 10-6 record should be considered a success. One things almost certain, Ram points per game will almost certainly be substantially reduced. I'd guess easily by 6 or 7 pts/g. I like the "D's" potential, if they can hold opponents to under 20 pts per game, they might pick up an extra game or two.

 

[GabesHorn]

The RG Austin Blythe injury is very bad news we all knew we were very weak @ RG & that's where the injury took place. I believe Kromer has been fully aware of his problem he is no Paul F. Boudreau or Steve Loney!

Jamil Demby playing history is all based @ LT before he arrived here. JD was never going to earn a living @ playing OT in the NFL. Kromer has been working JD all over the place. All five OL posts have been tasted by JD. Most have tasted like .

We have watched JD for two pre seasons now & we do have an ideal where JD has turned in his best performances.....it was Left OG. JD was just much more comfortable with the left side......now its mandated that he will make himself comfortable & dependable, or he will be watching the game in street clothes again. JD is just going to have to react faster in his blocks .....he is seriously retarded in getting off.

I would expect Kromer will ride JD for now @ RG. Kromer is not without some OL'ers who have played the RG post in preseason......David Edwards, Bobby Evans, Jeremiah Kolone & Chandler Brewer. Plus he has our newest acquired OL'er center Coleman Shelton in standby mode too.

That's FIVE reserve OL'ers under contract with the Rams earning a paycheck for work performed. Now we will see who steps up @ this time to secure his future in the NFL. Kromer's got this!

Love you Vernon . I always look to you for my offensive line inside knowledge. We are lso neighbors almost here in north Florida in the woods & heat. I'm hoping Edwards gets the nodand we change the redshirt plan as he has the length and arms I want for my right guard like Saffold was built yet not as muscular yet. Love all the Wisconsin trained offensive linemen who come in ready to the NFL like Iowa OLmen and normally Oklahoma OLmen. Edwards just seems ahead of Evans after PS. I like Brewer as much as you do. Maybe he can get the call. We need to make the call and start working the problem and getting our starting 5 gelling for this seasons future. Injuries suck and the RAMS have missed them for 2 years and now it's our time to fix a whole and don't give defenses a point to attack and stop our powerfull offense. Let's get it done brother. I too trust Kromer and wonder how Demby even got this far. Can Demby actually be taught??? I'm on old offensive lineman myself I'm built like Demby and wonder what we can do to get his giant feet like mine to move faster and I'm most worried about his intelligence as I've yet to see much through the pre-season. Glad Kromer moved and worked him at every position all preseason. It's time to stop all the movement and get this spot filld and put all our time in making it SOLID!!!!!.GO RAMS!!

 

[Flint]

Seems like he’s waiting and waiting, eventually somebody’s going to reach out and grab his arm or knock the ball out. He needs to move in the pocket or even escape the pocket, Cam Jordan is no slouch he’s gotta know he’s running out of time.

 

[bubbaramfan]

McVay on Demby "Until I really go back and look at the tape". Sounds like he was just doing lip service in the interview. You do the Sean, and I hope you see what all of us here at ROD have been seeing all through TC and pre season. I know you have trust in your OL line coach, abut in this case it might be time to override him. Demby was slow and plodding just like he always has been.

 

[PressureD41]

Love you Vernon . I always look to you for my offensive line inside knowledge. We are lso neighbors almost here in north Florida in the woods & heat. I'm hoping Edwards gets the nodand we change the redshirt plan as he has the length and arms I want for my right guard like Saffold was built yet not as muscular yet. Love all the Wisconsin trained offensive linemen who come in ready to the NFL like Iowa OLmen and normally Oklahoma OLmen. Edwards just seems ahead of Evans after PS. I like Brewer as much as you do. Maybe he can get the call. We need to make the call and start working the problem and getting our starting 5 gelling for this seasons future. Injuries suck and the RAMS have missed them for 2 years and now it's our time to fix a whole and don't give defenses a point to attack and stop our powerfull offense. Let's get it done brother. I too trust Kromer and wonder how Demby even got this far. Can Demby actually be taught??? I'm on old offensive lineman myself I'm built like Demby and wonder what we can do to get his giant feet like mine to move faster and I'm most worried about his intelligence as I've yet to see much through the pre-season. Glad Kromer moved and worked him at every position all preseason. It's time to stop all the movement and get this spot filld and put all our time in making it SOLID!!!!!.GO RAMS!!

I agree we need to get Edwards into line up, but I just don't see the coaches willing to go w/ 3 new guys in the interior of the OL. I think we will go w/ Blythe & Demby (band-aid approach) for most; if not the entire season though. I dislike both of them for the record and I too want to jumpstart the future. But I don't think in the coaches eyes Edwards or Evans for that matter have shown enough to trust. I still would believe they want to see how Noteboom and Allen handle the first stretch of games before EVEN thinking about adding a rookie to the interior mix. Noteboom appears to be very good. Allen seems to be okay and I think he end up being replaced within 2-3 years. Allen today is a slight upgrade over Sully, which isn't a ringing endorsement. Lets hope Allen gets into a good groove as our season depends on it. Just my 2 Cdn cents here.

EDIT:
If they think Edwards and Evans have a future, I think they might draft a stud OC in the next 2 drafts

 

[BonifayRam]

Love you Vernon . I always look to you for my offensive line inside knowledge. We are lso neighbors almost here in north Florida in the woods & heat. I'm hoping Edwards gets the nodand we change the redshirt plan as he has the length and arms I want for my right guard like Saffold was built yet not as muscular yet. Love all the Wisconsin trained offensive linemen who come in ready to the NFL like Iowa OLmen and normally Oklahoma OLmen. Edwards just seems ahead of Evans after PS. I like Brewer as much as you do. Maybe he can get the call. We need to make the call and start working the problem and getting our starting 5 gelling for this seasons future. Injuries suck and the RAMS have missed them for 2 years and now it's our time to fix a whole and don't give defenses a point to attack and stop our powerfull offense. Let's get it done brother. I too trust Kromer and wonder how Demby even got this far. Can Demby actually be taught??? I'm on old offensive lineman myself I'm built like Demby and wonder what we can do to get his giant feet like mine to move faster and I'm most worried about his intelligence as I've yet to see much through the pre-season. Glad Kromer moved and worked him at every position all preseason. It's time to stop all the movement and get this spot filld and put all our time in making it SOLID!!!!!.GO RAMS!!

Love you too Brother!

I have been posting for throughout this summer about the importance of having David Edwards ready to team with Joe Noteboom on that blind side next season. Pouring as much Miracle Grow as possible on DE. So I'm in favor of keeping OL'er DE where he has been for a while now.....#1 left side reserve (LT/LG). Do not move DE out of this plan! That would mean that when Whitworth gets the often rest in practices its DE that gets the reps. If Noteboom needs rest then DE gets the reps. Just keep this rookie learning from Whitworth as much as possible while he is still here this season.

If Blythe is IR'd the Rams will have to decide which OL'er is the best OL element for this newly changed & formed OL cadre. A surprise trade is not out of the question too. A OL'er similar to an Evan Boehm. The Rams need as much experience as possible. The Ram OL'er who fits that who is under contract is ..... Jeremiah Kolone. JK might have slower feet than Demby.

 

[bubbaramfan]

Not sure if its been mentioned,, but is was Demby's man who blew right by him and got to Goff causing the fumble. Had the Refs not called the play dead he would have been responsible for the Saints getting six and according to all Saint fans (and Peyton) costing them the game.

And McVay and Vinny B talk about how good Demby did?

Since McVay came in as HC of the Rams I have had very little to complain about.

But I'm flummuxed as to why they insist on making Demby first guy off the bench. I totally dis agree.

 

[BonifayRam]

Not sure if its been mentioned,, but is was Demby's man who blew right by him and got to Goff causing the fumble. Had the Refs not called the play dead he would have been responsible for the Saints getting six and according to all Saint fans (and Peyton) costing them the game.

And McVay and Vinny B talk about how good Demby did?

Since McVay came in as HC of the Rams I have had very little to complain about.

But I'm flummuxed as to why they insist on making Demby first guy off the bench. I totally dis agree.

Rams most recent top OL draft selection was Bobby Evans a OT Since the OTA's/ Training Camp & Pre season...BE seems to have dropped off most conversations. David Edwards helped with that. However, Evans was a jr when he came out.

Question here can Bobby Evans grasp this moment in time here with the injury to our starting RG? Is Evans the right side reserve RT/RG?

@bubbaramfan you were there in camp what do you think? Would Evans not be the logical 2020 starting RG prospect?

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