The Rams might be the only team that can stop the Chiefs

[Flint]

Idk if we can beat the Chiefs or not but it would be a damn good game i think. This is my dream SB match up foreal.

Imagine how one little offsides could’ve changed so much, might the Chiefs be talking dynasty with a potential 3rd appearance in 3 years? Might the Rams be looking for a 2nd SB? If only....

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

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Does anyone else think Mcvay is keeping the deep passing game under wraps until he needs it in the playoffs?

I refuse to believe there aren't any plays to be made deep with all the dinking and dunking he's calling almost exclusively right now. Surely defenders are creeping closer to the line of scrimmage as the games go on.

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They'd have to find a lot more time for Goff to throw the ball, than whatever he currently has time to do.

 

[majrleaged]

They'd have to find a lot more time for Goff to throw the ball, than whatever he currently has time to do.

He has time. He has looked deep many times but checks down.

 

[ArkyRamsFan]

Just End The Season

Or my fave, "Just end the suffering."

~ArkyRamsFan~

 

[Mojo Ram]

I think we win TOP in every game we play from here on out

I think this is something McV has been focused on this season. We've all watched this offense. It is more short to medium area focused in the pass game. It's more ball control and dictating the pace of the game than before. Quite a bit of high percentage stuff. The shift from 11 to 12 personnel late last season into this season, the defensive improvement this season...

I've looked at the average T.O.P. numbers since 2017. Here they are excluding overtime:

2017
29:39 (21st)

2018
30:46 (8th)

2019
29:00 (22nd)

2020
31:59 (3rd)


Three minutes per game improvement is HUGE when looking at T.O.P. That's a result of a defense that can get off the field and an offense that can sustain drives and/or have more possessions per game i'd suspect(i haven't looked at that).

I've read where (some)fans have been critical and a bit disappointed in the style of the Rams offense this year.
No deep game, safe throws, far less quick strike scoring, less chunk plays etc. Is McVay protecting Goff etc. Lack of a deep speed WR etc.

It could be some of that stuff i guess...but i'd be willing to bet that once McV got a feel for what his defense can do, he realized that longer, more deliberate drives gives Goff and company a better chance at finding that game rhythm he wants to get into.

We've all witnessed how out of sync this offense gets at times, and how impatient the playcalling was last season. Of course the run game was terrible and clearly contributed to things grinding to a halt at times.
I think he wants to keep his unit on the field more than ever in order to ensure more plays to get to that place. More deliberate. Now he's got an elite defense to compliment that.

Or maybe i'm just full of shit.

 

[Reddog99]

Imagine how one little offsides could’ve changed so much, might the Chiefs be talking dynasty with a potential 3rd appearance in 3 years? Might the Rams be looking for a 2nd SB? If only....

No doubt. I wish we'd played the Chiefs in the SB that year. It likely would've been a lot more fun to watch. Maybe Rams wouldn't have been part of the lowest scoring superbowl and Goff might be looked at a little different in the eyes of non Rams fans. We lost anyway so had we played KC and lost I feel like it would've stung a little less instead of losing to New England twice.

 

[Corbin]

I fully expect to get to the Super Bowl.
The only team I fear could be the Bucs, neither the Saints or the Packers worry me. I really think our D will smother both of them.

i really see this playing out well for us until the SB if we get through the next 3 games unscathed.

 

[nighttrain]

Packers always worry me, especially in GB
train

 

[badnews]

They'd have to find a lot more time for Goff to throw the ball, than whatever he currently has time to do.

That's a fact. Our line has been a pleasant surprise this year and if judging by sacks given up, one might believe that they are doing a great job in pass protection. That is a bit of an illusion though.

The "Goff’s No Good" crowd like to point to McVays playcalling this year as evidence of a supposed lack of faith in his QB. I don't think that is the case at all. It's just smart coaching.
Contact with QBs in the pocket causes turnovers and turnovers lose ball games.

The run, run, horizontal pass, run, run, play action horizontal pass Rams O might not be as exciting to watch on TV, but it's working well enough to win with our defense.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

He has time. He has looked deep many times but checks down.

I disagree. He doesn't have nearly enough time to be pulling off good, accurate throws deep with any consistency. Remember how accurate his deep ball was for most of 2018. Now he's rushing those throws and is mostly off the mark when he attempted them this year.

I don't think McVay is holding anything back. He likely learned from past mistakes that its necessary to game plan from one opponent to another and not to be married to one scheme. We just saw him use a different approach against a different defense a few times. The last game he ran the ball with extra blockers. One game was all Goff. It would be better for Goff and receivers to have experience with deep routes all season instead of springing a surprise in the playoffs that they aren't well practiced at. Besides all that I don't think they have the deep threat at WR to consistently make those deep plays work.

 

[FarNorth]

I think this is something McV has been focused on this season. We've all watched this offense. It is more short to medium area focused in the pass game. It's more ball control and dictating the pace of the game than before. Quite a bit of high percentage stuff. The shift from 11 to 12 personnel late last season into this season, the defensive improvement this season...

I've looked at the average T.O.P. numbers since 2017. Here they are excluding overtime:

2017
29:39 (21st)

2018
30:46 (8th)

2019
29:00 (22nd)

2020
31:59 (3rd)


Three minutes per game improvement is HUGE when looking at T.O.P. That's a result of a defense that can get off the field and an offense that can sustain drives and/or have more possessions per game i'd suspect(i haven't looked at that).

I've read where (some)fans have been critical and a bit disappointed in the style of the Rams offense this year.
No deep game, safe throws, far less quick strike scoring, less chunk plays etc. Is McVay protecting Goff etc. Lack of a deep speed WR etc.

It could be some of that stuff i guess...but i'd be willing to bet that once McV got a feel for what his defense can do, he realized that longer, more deliberate drives gives Goff and company a better chance at finding that game rhythm he wants to get into.

We've all witnessed how out of sync this offense gets at times, and how impatient the playcalling was last season. Of course the run game was terrible and clearly contributed to things grinding to a halt at times.
I think he wants to keep his unit on the field more than ever in order to ensure more plays to get to that place. More deliberate. Now he's got an elite defense to compliment that.

Or maybe i'm just full of shit.

I think the reason we haven't had as many deep passes, tds, or scoring as in the past is just the limitations of the offense. Maybe Cam Akers with some serious running can help open up the play action game for deeper throws.

 

[Neil039]

It would not be the shootout from 2 seasons ago.
Ball control, eliminating the big play and tightening up in the red zone (FGs instead of TDs) will beat the Chiefs. Easier said than done, but this defense is definitely up to the task.

 

[majrleaged]

I disagree. He doesn't have nearly enough time to be pulling off good, accurate throws deep with any consistency. Remember how accurate his deep ball was for most of 2018. Now he's rushing those throws and is mostly off the mark when he attempted them this year.

I don't think McVay is holding anything back. He likely learned from past mistakes that its necessary to game plan from one opponent to another and not to be married to one scheme. We just saw him use a different approach against a different defense a few times. The last game he ran the ball with extra blockers. One game was all Goff. It would be better for Goff and receivers to have experience with deep routes all season instead of springing a surprise in the playoffs that they aren't well practiced at. Besides all that I don't think they have the deep threat at WR to consistently make those deep plays work.

I agree that mcvay isn't holding back, but I have seen Goff looking deep and waiting and then checking down. It is more Goff doesnt like what he sees. Separation. Coverage over the top, or something.

 

[FrantikRam]

I disagree. He doesn't have nearly enough time to be pulling off good, accurate throws deep with any consistency. Remember how accurate his deep ball was for most of 2018. Now he's rushing those throws and is mostly off the mark when he attempted them this year.

I don't think McVay is holding anything back. He likely learned from past mistakes that its necessary to game plan from one opponent to another and not to be married to one scheme. We just saw him use a different approach against a different defense a few times. The last game he ran the ball with extra blockers. One game was all Goff. It would be better for Goff and receivers to have experience with deep routes all season instead of springing a surprise in the playoffs that they aren't well practiced at. Besides all that I don't think they have the deep threat at WR to consistently make those deep plays work.

Where is the statistical proof that he doesn't have enough time to pull off deep passes? This link is up to date pass block win rate from ESPN, which means the OL wins for at least 2.5 seconds:

2020 NFL pass-rushing, run-stopping, blocking leaderboard: Win rate rankings

ESPN Analytics created revolutionary new metrics to measure performance in both the run and pass game. Here are the leaders for the 2020 season.

www.google.com

The OL has been superb at pass blocking when we're not blitzed - obviously when any team blitzes, the QB will have to get rid of the ball more quickly but that's not anyone's fault.

This is just one metric but someone who is paid to watch every offensive lineman (which I'm guessing none of us can do) says the Rams have a top 10 pass blocking OL.

I can see us not having a WR that can get deep quickly enough to take advantage of this, but I think the OL has been excellent.

 

[TexasRam]

The Chiefs might be the only team that can stop the Rams.

But probably can’t.

 

[dieterbrock]

Perfect world for me, Rams vs Steelers in Superbowl and get revenge tor 1979 SB beating them, finally the right ending for Heaven Can Wait

Well if Wolford gets killed in a freak bicycle accident and Kroenke starts getting ideas about playing QB himself, it’s going to be a wicked case of deja vu

 

[Malibu]

Serious question what is the difference from the Chiefs and Seattle.

Wilson has been in the MVP conversation. They have Locket and Metcalf They were leading the league at 34+ ppg.

We beat Seattle we can beat the Chiefs. The key to beating the chiefs is one thing pressure on Mahommes which includes not letting him scramble outside of the pocket and buy time. They are a chunk play team and that happens because Mahommes has a lot of time to throw.

 

[Aulac]

Serious question what is the difference from the Chiefs and Seattle.

Wilson has been in the MVP conversation. They have Locket and Metcalf They were leading the league at 34+ ppg.

We beat Seattle we can beat the Chiefs. The key to beating the chiefs is one thing pressure on Mahommes which includes not letting him scramble outside of the pocket and buy time. They are a chunk play team and that happens because Mahommes has a lot of time to throw.

Chiefs have Andy Reid and their third best weapons is Sammy Watkins who used to be our #1. A lot of Seahawks fans want Pete Carroll fire every year, not the case with Chiefs fans and Andy Reid. Mahomes being 6'3 vs Wilson being only 5'11 also help him see over the top. Lastly, Seahawks don't have an elite tight end that allow them to convert easy 3rd down.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Serious question what is the difference from the Chiefs and Seattle.

Wilson has been in the MVP conversation. They have Locket and Metcalf They were leading the league at 34+ ppg.

We beat Seattle we can beat the Chiefs. The key to beating the chiefs is one thing pressure on Mahommes which includes not letting him scramble outside of the pocket and buy time. They are a chunk play team and that happens because Mahommes has a lot of time to throw.

Without Mahomes the Chiefs prob still win 9-10 games.

Without Wilson the Seahawks prob win 5-6 games.