The Rams defense doesn't need to be even good..

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Defense is frustrating. But the Rams need to wrap up. They let Wince get away too many times for my liking. It was maddening. Love their goal line and turnovers. Run defense looked a little better. Floyd looked like Floyd again. But when a JJ3 is missing from your lineup it will sometimes be noticeable. Hey just improve starting next week vs Bucs!
 

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Jj3 is greatly missed but the Rams have enough good players to adjust. I only followed the Colts game on NFL Redzone and ESPN gamecast but it appears we are dangerously soft in the middle. Passes 10-12 yards from LOS snd missed tackles are killing our effectiveness. Not expecting immediate improvement but without incremental improvement we will not be able to hang with the best offenses (KC, AZ, TB).
 

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It just needs to be able to make plays at the right time which they can do.

Two seasons ago the Chiefs defense was ranked #25 and they won the SB.

We can't rely on this defense. The offense need to be a juggernaut.

It can happen. As a matter of fact this Rams team reminds me of that Chiefs team.
We can't rely on the offense to be a juggernaut. The defense needs to be good.
 

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Morris has the talent for this defense to be elite. But it never will be by the conservative scheme he's employing. It's not the players. Staley had less talent and did more than Morris is doing. Drop, read first then react is a losing way to play. The players are too fast these days to do that. Staley played his zone as a combo zone/man. Zone only dictated who you would cover. Once a receiver entered the zone he was played in man coverage. Obviously, that is a simplification but it's an illustration of how it's different from Morris' version. In Morris' zone, they simply make their drops and wait to see where the pass is thrown then react. That concedes the reception. unless the DB is right on top of the receiver when the pass is thrown. That is the ancient way of playing zone.

Morris showed he can be more aggressive when he forced the Colt's first punt. He locked them down immediately by playing more guys in the box, taking away their run game. When they were behind the chains he then backed off and played pass. I have no problem with that at all. Had he done that the entire game IMO the score wouldn't have even been close. He would wait until they were on the Ram's side of the field before he began to tighten things down. At that point he's trying to limit them to FGs. That's a loser mentality.

I'm hoping McVay will get tired of being forced into close games with teams that the Rams should simply dominate. The Rams have the talent to put teams away a lot earlier than they are doing it. Allowing teams to hang around eventually will cost wins, against teams they should beat.
 

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I have to say I don't think the D we've seen so far will hold Tampa under 40.

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The Rams are 2-0 versus playoff teams.
Including a road win.
The Rams are giving up a lot of sustained drives and if not for some time red zone picks and several fourth down stops would have given up a lot of points.
But, they got the stops.
A lot of room to improve for sure.
But, before week 8 or 9 I think it’s a rush to judgement for the defense.
It will be interesting to see if Morris gets more creative vs Tampa.
Because if he doesn’t Brady will pick them apart.
 
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I agree, ... and that 7 point Special Teams giveaway on the Scott 'fumble' skewed the scoring somewhat. Defense looked quite good during most of those goal line plays, and we shouldn't forget that Refs just look in the opposite direction when it comes to those non-holding calls when guys are draped all over Donald.

Speaking of special teams...are we regressing with every coach we get after Bones? It seems we have given up a fair amount on kick off returns...so much more than I can recall over the last several years. I doubt it's players not being talented as much as it is coaching. Hope this turns around soon..
 

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Morris isn't suddenly going to change how he plays his scheme just in one week. Another difference is Staley did a lot of pre-snap disguising of his play. Morris is what they see is what they get. It's why even mediocre teams like the Bears can move the ball. The Colts made a fundamental mistake when they didn't take the points when they could have. Those points were the difference in the game.

Morris' conservative style would have lost this game had it not been for miscalculations by Reich. If the Rams keep playing this way defensively, they will lose to a team they should beat who has a coach who will take the points conceded to him by Morris. The way Morris plays also will almost always result in a long field for the offense. Instead of stopping the opposing offense early he basically allows them to get to mid-field before tightening down. That's just plain stupid. Why is it stupid? Because he's got players that were the #1 defense in the NFL last year, that's why. It means he's not maximizing the potential of the talent he's got. Yeah, he's moving Jalen around but BFD if they can't shut them down to 3 and outs. How many 3 and outs has Morris forced? Compare that to last year with basically the same players.

I was willing to give Morris the benefit of doubt but so far he's proving to be a huge downgrade as a DC. He will have to radically change how he's playing his defense to make a difference. He acts like he's okay with a wildcard playoff spot, not the Lombardi.
 

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I hope Morris is holding back some coverages for games like next week. I remember Staley had the middle of the field covered by switching the coverage man taking the middle of the field short/medium away (hard to explain) from one of the video reviews.
 

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Donald did appear to knock a little rust off today and this was against a good OL.
 

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It'll make things a lot easier on us if our defense is good or great.
 

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The special teams disaster makes this game look worse than it was, defensively.
The Rams D has let up less than 20 points 2 weeks in a row.
That being said.. fewer goal line stands would help. Can’t count on that kind of failure rate by offenses.
 

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I find myself complaining about how much the D bends until I look at the stats compared to last year. And we were what last year? #1?

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We played better on Defense this week.... still...some adjustments need to be made. I did notice that we played 2 ILBs more this week. Seemed to toughen us up on some drives.... Long Jr. played less. With so many guys sitting out the preseason, these early games Raheem is seeing in real time who he can trust, and what works with the players we have..in his first year with these guys. Playing 2 ILBs more today shows me he's seeing what adjustments need to be made.. That needs to keep happening.

Let me add too that Rapp has played well enough in coverage so far that I think that will allow us to that ILB on the field more than feeling like we have to have an extra CB on the field. Of course you do that in obvious passing downs, but staying in a base defense with 2 ILBs on the field worked last year for us in a major way.
 
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I find myself complaining about how much the D bends until I look at the stats compared to last year. And we were what last year? #1?

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Didn't know the stats but was coming to post this.

And in week 3 against the Bills, our d got eviscerated, which may happen next week against Tampa.

But I think McVay is too smart and our defense too talented to let it regress too much.
 

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It just needs to be able to make plays at the right time which they can do.

Two seasons ago the Chiefs defense was ranked #25 and they won the SB.

We can't rely on this defense. The offense need to be a juggernaut.

It can happen. As a matter of fact this Rams team reminds me of that Chiefs team.
I LOVE our weapons I really do. But there's levels to this shit.

Mahomes is better than Stafford.
Hill is better than Kupp.
Kelce is better than Woods.

So yea we're nothing like the Chiefs tbh. We're great on offense, but they are arguably the most explosive and talented offense of all time.

We need our defense to finish top 10 to have a solid shot at winning it all. And I suspect we'll settle in more into this scheme and Raheem will get a better feel for play calling with this group.
 

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Gonna wait and see how this defense plays by the end of the season before I start getting concerned. 1st quarter of the season usually has defenses in preseason form; it's not a matter of how well you start, it's a matter of well this team finishes
 

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Morris isn't suddenly going to change how he plays his scheme just in one week. Another difference is Staley did a lot of pre-snap disguising of his play. Morris is what they see is what they get. It's why even mediocre teams like the Bears can move the ball. The Colts made a fundamental mistake when they didn't take the points when they could have. Those points were the difference in the game.

Morris' conservative style would have lost this game had it not been for miscalculations by Reich. If the Rams keep playing this way defensively, they will lose to a team they should beat who has a coach who will take the points conceded to him by Morris. The way Morris plays also will almost always result in a long field for the offense. Instead of stopping the opposing offense early he basically allows them to get to mid-field before tightening down. That's just plain stupid. Why is it stupid? Because he's got players that were the #1 defense in the NFL last year, that's why. It means he's not maximizing the potential of the talent he's got. Yeah, he's moving Jalen around but BFD if they can't shut them down to 3 and outs. How many 3 and outs has Morris forced? Compare that to last year with basically the same players.

I was willing to give Morris the benefit of doubt but so far he's proving to be a huge downgrade as a DC. He will have to radically change how he's playing his defense to make a difference. He acts like he's okay with a wildcard playoff spot, not the Lombardi.
Lol, you gave benefit of the doubt? This is hilarious considering how you eviscerated Staley for the first half of last season even saying McVay should fire him and bring in a real D-coordinator. And you complained about the same things with Staley's defense that you are now.

I don't know how Morris will progress, he might end up being bad when we get to the end of the season. I'm not completely happy with the defense the first two games but got to give them a real chance to fix stuff. But so far, our defense is starting the season pretty similar, if not better statistically, than they started last year.
 

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Citing last year's defense is something I keep seeing. But it would mean a lot more to me if we had not changed a coordinator and if the guy who we brought in didn't have a history of exactly what we're seeing.
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