The NFL's most overrated players

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There is no more polarizing word in sports than the word overrated. Well, except for maybe Tebow, but you get my point. There are overrated politicians, astronauts, and superheroes, but there are rarely heated arguments about who is more overrated: Hulk or Batman?

(It's Batman. He has no superpowers. He drives a car. How super can he be? Oh, sorry ...)

But in sports, we have these overrated arguments all the time. In the NFL, this argument happens hourly.

We wanted to have a sensible debate about the overrated NFL players, and we think this is it. Go ahead and pummel this list or like it. Just don't call it overrated.

1. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Detroit Lions: As a rookie, Suh was brilliant. He was Defensive Rookie of the Year, and it seemed he would be an unstoppable force for years. Now, he's become a stomp-able force. Suh is more known for his dirty play than effective football. The media lap dogs who once supported Suh have long since abandoned him because the dirty play has become impossible to defend. It goes beyond the infamous stomp he inflicted against Green Bay's Evan Dietrich-Smith on Thanksgiving Day. It goes beyond the dirty stuff the following Thanksgiving for which he earned a $30,000 fine. Suh has been fined by the NFL for three nasty violations in only his first two years in pro football. He has nine personal fouls.

What has happened to Suh is that teams have adjusted to his style of play. Suh has one move -- forward like a bull. Smart linemen can deal with that, no matter how strong Suh is. The belief among offensive coaches and players is that Suh has resorted to the dirty stuff to compensate for the fact that teams now know how to play him.

2. Tony Romo, QB, Dallas Cowboys: Romo is a totally nice dude. If you met him, you would love him. As a player, he at times has astounding accuracy. That accuracy, mostly coming in moments when the pressure is thin and the air is relaxed, can be as good as anyone in the sport. Romo has also, to be charitable, been failed miserably by the team's general manager, aka, the owner. He has a decent offensive line and great tight end, but his running back is slightly overrated (almost making this list), one of his receivers is a head case and the other gets injured a lot. And unlike the elite quarterbacks like Joe Flacco, he hasn't had a defense to lean on.

Romo, however, has also massively choked. Numerously, in the worst moments. He has also been passed over by other great throwers. In the division, he has been passed by Eli Manning. In the conference, he's been passed by Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, and possibly Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson and RG3. In the Super Bowl, Kaepernick showed the kind of big-game guts Romo hasn't displayed.

3. Reggie Bush, RB, Detroit: Bush did win a Super Bowl with the Saints and did have his moments, but he has yet to live up to being the second overall pick in the 2006 draft. The Saints realized this, and now Bush is on his third team in four seasons.

4. Jay Cutler, QB, Chicago Bears: Cutler is 30 years old and was the 11th overall pick in the 2006 draft. In Denver and Chicago, he has had solid weapons around him and good backs. Yet despite a strong arm he has won a solitary playoff game. One. Cutler is Jeff George.

Chicago's offense has never been ranked higher than 23rd. Blame the previous coaching staff all you want but Cutler's passer rating was pedantic even after adding the explosive Brandon Marshall.

Again, Cutler has a huge arm and some mobility. That's good. But so did George.

5. Dez Bryant, WR, Dallas Cowboys: If you could take the dedication of Jerry Rice and the brain of Paul Warfield and incorporate them both into the body of Bryant, the Dallas wide receiver would be better than both of them. Physically, he's that gifted. The NFL hasn't seen a wide receiver this physically imposing since Randy Moss.

Bryant, however, has the proverbial 10-cent noggin. His attention span on the field is erratic at best and off the field he can be a bit of a jerk. Last year, he was charged with misdemeanor domestic violence against his biological mom (she never pressed charges) and he was sued in 2011 for $861,000 after he allegedly didn't pay for jewelry.

There are games, like the one against New Orleans, where he had 224 yards on nine catches. He also added two touchdowns. It's in those moments where Bryant looks like one of the top three players at the position. Then he drops a pass or runs a wrong route. Then he runs another wrong route and you shake your head.

6. Philip Rivers, QB, San Diego: There comes a point where the head coach can no longer be blamed. Or the GM can no longer be blamed. Can't blame the tight end's injuries or the Hall of Fame back cut loose prematurely. Rivers is a terrific leader but in the 2011 and 2012 seasons he combined for 55 turnovers. His game, once gorgeous, has turned almost nightmarish.

7. Michael Vick, QB, Philadelphia: Vick recently beat running back LeSean McCoy in a footrace. It was dazzling. It was a great story. It also meant absolutely nothing. This fact does: the last time Vick made the playoffs was 2010. The last time Vick won a playoff game was 2004. He has played only one full season and that was 2006. Vick was once a game-changer, but that seems like a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. Vick can still win races but can't outrun his lack of postseason winning and injury history.

8. Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, San Francisco: In 2011, the Eagles signed Asomugha to a $60-million deal with about $25 million guaranteed. It turned out to be one of the worst free-agent signings of all time; he was burned like pot roast.

9. Tim Tebow, fullback, free agent: Forbes magazine called Tebow the most influential athlete in sports. When Forbes released its list, it initially seemed like a report from the Onion. It still does. It's likely a free-agent fullback made Forbes list.

10. Andre Johnson, WR, Houston: In some ways, like Romo, Johnson has been poorly served by his team. Some great statistics from ESPN's Paul Kuharsky shows this. The Texans were one of only four teams -- the Bears, Chiefs and Lions -- that targeted one wideout more than all of the rest combined. Johnson was targeted 58.1 percent of the time, the highest percentage in the NFL. The Texans have needed a second receiver for a long time and haven't found one.

Yet Johnson, once devastating, is no longer scary. Johnson has never had double-digit touchdowns in a single season, and he's one of the more injury-prone stars at the position. He missed three games in 2010, nine in 2011, and last year fought a groin injury all season. He's 31 and the injuries are clearly catching up to him.
 

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At least no Rams made that list!! ... But that could mean we are either underrated .... or UNrated lol :what:
 

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There is no more polarizing word in sports than the word overrated. Well, except for maybe Tebow, but you get my point. There are overrated politicians, astronauts, and superheroes, but there are rarely heated arguments about who is more overrated: Hulk or Batman?

(It's Batman. He has no superpowers. He drives a car. How super can he be? Oh, sorry ...)

But in sports, we have these overrated arguments all the time. In the NFL, this argument happens hourly.

We wanted to have a sensible debate about the overrated NFL players, and we think this is it. Go ahead and pummel this list or like it. Just don't call it overrated.

1. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Detroit Lions: As a rookie, Suh was brilliant. He was Defensive Rookie of the Year, and it seemed he would be an unstoppable force for years. Now, he's become a stomp-able force. Suh is more known for his dirty play than effective football. The media lap dogs who once supported Suh have long since abandoned him because the dirty play has become impossible to defend. It goes beyond the infamous stomp he inflicted against Green Bay's Evan Dietrich-Smith on Thanksgiving Day. It goes beyond the dirty stuff the following Thanksgiving for which he earned a $30,000 fine. Suh has been fined by the NFL for three nasty violations in only his first two years in pro football. He has nine personal fouls.

What has happened to Suh is that teams have adjusted to his style of play. Suh has one move -- forward like a bull. Smart linemen can deal with that, no matter how strong Suh is. The belief among offensive coaches and players is that Suh has resorted to the dirty stuff to compensate for the fact that teams now know how to play him.

2. Tony Romo, QB, Dallas Cowboys: Romo is a totally nice dude. If you met him, you would love him. As a player, he at times has astounding accuracy. That accuracy, mostly coming in moments when the pressure is thin and the air is relaxed, can be as good as anyone in the sport. Romo has also, to be charitable, been failed miserably by the team's general manager, aka, the owner. He has a decent offensive line and great tight end, but his running back is slightly overrated (almost making this list), one of his receivers is a head case and the other gets injured a lot. And unlike the elite quarterbacks like Joe Flacco, he hasn't had a defense to lean on.

Romo, however, has also massively choked. Numerously, in the worst moments. He has also been passed over by other great throwers. In the division, he has been passed by Eli Manning. In the conference, he's been passed by Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, and possibly Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson and RG3. In the Super Bowl, Kaepernick showed the kind of big-game guts Romo hasn't displayed.

3. Reggie Bush, RB, Detroit: Bush did win a Super Bowl with the Saints and did have his moments, but he has yet to live up to being the second overall pick in the 2006 draft. The Saints realized this, and now Bush is on his third team in four seasons.

4. Jay Cutler, QB, Chicago Bears: Cutler is 30 years old and was the 11th overall pick in the 2006 draft. In Denver and Chicago, he has had solid weapons around him and good backs. Yet despite a strong arm he has won a solitary playoff game. One. Cutler is Jeff George.

Chicago's offense has never been ranked higher than 23rd. Blame the previous coaching staff all you want but Cutler's passer rating was pedantic even after adding the explosive Brandon Marshall.

Again, Cutler has a huge arm and some mobility. That's good. But so did George.

5. Dez Bryant, WR, Dallas Cowboys: If you could take the dedication of Jerry Rice and the brain of Paul Warfield and incorporate them both into the body of Bryant, the Dallas wide receiver would be better than both of them. Physically, he's that gifted. The NFL hasn't seen a wide receiver this physically imposing since Randy Moss.

Bryant, however, has the proverbial 10-cent noggin. His attention span on the field is erratic at best and off the field he can be a bit of a jerk. Last year, he was charged with misdemeanor domestic violence against his biological mom (she never pressed charges) and he was sued in 2011 for $861,000 after he allegedly didn't pay for jewelry.

There are games, like the one against New Orleans, where he had 224 yards on nine catches. He also added two touchdowns. It's in those moments where Bryant looks like one of the top three players at the position. Then he drops a pass or runs a wrong route. Then he runs another wrong route and you shake your head.

6. Philip Rivers, QB, San Diego: There comes a point where the head coach can no longer be blamed. Or the GM can no longer be blamed. Can't blame the tight end's injuries or the Hall of Fame back cut loose prematurely. Rivers is a terrific leader but in the 2011 and 2012 seasons he combined for 55 turnovers. His game, once gorgeous, has turned almost nightmarish.

7. Michael Vick, QB, Philadelphia: Vick recently beat running back LeSean McCoy in a footrace. It was dazzling. It was a great story. It also meant absolutely nothing. This fact does: the last time Vick made the playoffs was 2010. The last time Vick won a playoff game was 2004. He has played only one full season and that was 2006. Vick was once a game-changer, but that seems like a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. Vick can still win races but can't outrun his lack of postseason winning and injury history.

8. Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, San Francisco: In 2011, the Eagles signed Asomugha to a $60-million deal with about $25 million guaranteed. It turned out to be one of the worst free-agent signings of all time; he was burned like pot roast.

9. Tim Tebow, fullback, free agent: Forbes magazine called Tebow the most influential athlete in sports. When Forbes released its list, it initially seemed like a report from the Onion. It still does. It's likely a free-agent fullback made Forbes list.

10. Andre Johnson, WR, Houston: In some ways, like Romo, Johnson has been poorly served by his team. Some great statistics from ESPN's Paul Kuharsky shows this. The Texans were one of only four teams -- the Bears, Chiefs and Lions -- that targeted one wideout more than all of the rest combined. Johnson was targeted 58.1 percent of the time, the highest percentage in the NFL. The Texans have needed a second receiver for a long time and haven't found one.

Yet Johnson, once devastating, is no longer scary. Johnson has never had double-digit touchdowns in a single season, and he's one of the more injury-prone stars at the position. He missed three games in 2010, nine in 2011, and last year fought a groin injury all season. He's 31 and the injuries are clearly catching up to him.

1. Agree; and especially for the 2nd pick pre-rookie scale, that's a lot of money for a DT.

2. Disagree- Tony Romo led his team in a comeback win over the 49ers in 2011 w/ a punctured lung. He's far from a problem; Dallas' defenses and their idiot owner w/ no patience and ego is more of an issue.

3. Agree- Reggie was a glorified return man in New Orleans; although he did produce TDs. But he's no where near AP (not that anyone is) or Trent Richardson.

4. Disagree- Jay Cutler has been made out to the be the douche of the NFL. Some might agree with this, but Jay has never complained and he's been behind horrible OLs.

5. Disagree- Wow really...he ran a wrong route. What young WR doesn't do that? Speaking of on-field only, he's a stud.

6. Disagree- You know that team fired a HC that went 14-2. Bad GM, bad OLs, etc. How about subbing Philip Rivers for another Charger (former) Nate Kaeding. If he makes those FGs I bet SD has some trophies. Why is Philip Rivers still a starting QB and Nate is out of a job??

7. 1000% agree- I don't think anything has to be said.

8. Halfway agree- While in Oakland, he was amazing. Wrong scheme in Philly and it might have killed his career.

9. Agree- Well, duh. Accept he's never been given an actual chance; he isn't very good at QB, but very good at football. But thanks to the media (BSPN) he's become so polarizing...and for no reason.

10. Disagree- So b/c Andre is getting older, he's overrated? Please, any team would love to have Andre. You can throw this reasoning at Reggie Wayne, Larry Fitz, Anquan Boldin, etc.
 

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Dez Bryant is pretty dam good I take him. Stupid list if you ask me.

I see the appeal of Dez, but I find the list pretty damn good.

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1. Agree; and especially for the 2nd pick pre-rookie scale, that's a lot of money for a DT.

2. Disagree- Tony Romo led his team in a comeback win over the 49ers in 2011 w/ a punctured lung. He's far from a problem; Dallas' defenses and their idiot owner w/ no patience and ego is more of an issue.

3. Agree- Reggie was a glorified return man in New Orleans; although he did produce TDs. But he's no where near AP (not that anyone is) or Trent Richardson.

4. Disagree- Jay Cutler has been made out to the be the douche of the NFL. Some might agree with this, but Jay has never complained and he's been behind horrible OLs.

5. Disagree- Wow really...he ran a wrong route. What young WR doesn't do that? Speaking of on-field only, he's a stud.

6. Disagree- You know that team fired a HC that went 14-2. Bad GM, bad OLs, etc. How about subbing Philip Rivers for another Charger (former) Nate Kaeding. If he makes those FGs I bet SD has some trophies. Why is Philip Rivers still a starting QB and Nate is out of a job??

7. 1000% agree- I don't think anything has to be said.

8. Halfway agree- While in Oakland, he was amazing. Wrong scheme in Philly and it might have killed his career.

9. Agree- Well, duh. Accept he's never been given an actual chance; he isn't very good at QB, but very good at football. But thanks to the media (BSPN) he's become so polarizing...and for no reason.

10. Disagree- So b/c Andre is getting older, he's overrated? Please, any team would love to have Andre. You can throw this reasoning at Reggie Wayne, Larry Fitz, Anquan Boldin, etc.

I'm with you on just about each one of your assessments.

Andre and Daz should'nt be anywhere close to this list. I agree that Reggie Bush is overrated, but I'm not sure he should be in the top 10. He had a good few years in Miami, when he was given the chance to be "the guy"
 

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I disagree about Romo.

He's over hyped by some, but he isn't that bad. He's a little above a top 16 QB. He isn't elite, but he surely isn't as bad as some make him out to be.
 

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I disagree about Romo.

He's over hyped by some, but he isn't that bad. He's a little above a top 16 QB. He isn't elite, but he surely isn't as bad as some make him out to be.

I agree. You can win with Romo.

But his contract is WHACK!

Not sure what Jerry Jones was thinking on that deal.



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CGI_Ram said:
Lesson said:
I disagree about Romo.

He's over hyped by some, but he isn't that bad. He's a little above a top 16 QB. He isn't elite, but he surely isn't as bad as some make him out to be.

I agree. You can win with Romo.

But his contract is WHACK!

Not sure what Jerry Jones was thinking on that deal.



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At least no Rams made that list!! ... But that could mean we are either underrated .... or UNrated lol :what:


Exactly what I thought. The only time us not getting the spotlight is a good thing!
 

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CGI_Ram said:
Lesson said:
I disagree about Romo.

He's over hyped by some, but he isn't that bad. He's a little above a top 16 QB. He isn't elite, but he surely isn't as bad as some make him out to be.

I agree. You can win with Romo.

But his contract is WHACK!

Not sure what Jerry Jones was thinking on that deal.



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Unless it's a big game, playoff berth, or post season
 

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iced said:
CGI_Ram said:
Lesson said:
I disagree about Romo.

He's over hyped by some, but he isn't that bad. He's a little above a top 16 QB. He isn't elite, but he surely isn't as bad as some make him out to be.

I agree. You can win with Romo.

But his contract is WHACK!

Not sure what Jerry Jones was thinking on that deal.



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Unless it's a big game, playoff berth, or post season
This

romo is under rated as a choke artist lol
 

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iced said:
CGI_Ram said:
Lesson said:
I disagree about Romo.

He's over hyped by some, but he isn't that bad. He's a little above a top 16 QB. He isn't elite, but he surely isn't as bad as some make him out to be.

I agree. You can win with Romo.

But his contract is WHACK!

Not sure what Jerry Jones was thinking on that deal.



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Unless it's a big game, playoff berth, or post season
Exactly...December Romo is the problem.
People forget that Romo is an 11 year veteran now. If he wasn't a "Dallas Cowboys QB" i wonder if he'd receive such high praise year after year?

I'm not saying he sucks,but IMO he is overrated. He isn't among the 2nd tier elite.
 

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Romo is extremely talented.. but makes the most terrible decisions at times. Without the bad decisions, he's one of the best.
 

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Romo is extremely talented.. but makes the most terrible decisions at times. Without the bad decisions, he's one of the best.

Brett Favre did too. Except he's heralded as one of the greatest to ever play. Not disagreeing with that statement, but I think it's pretty hypocritical when people rag on Tony for his INTs while Brett did it his entire career.

I've said this before, I think Tony Romo has matured a lot since his Cabo vacation during the playoffs. If anything, he's underrated.
 

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I don't think Romo is under or over rated. The book on him is pretty simple and straightforward. Accurate passer that makes mistakes and doesn't have a ton around him.

The Cowboys finished 8-8 last year and he had a damn fine season. Same thing the year before. It's not Romo that is keeping that team from performing.

I'd take him right now straight up contract for contract for Bradford.
 

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A55VA6 said:
Romo is extremely talented.. but makes the most terrible decisions at times. Without the bad decisions, he's one of the best.

Brett Favre did too. Except he's heralded as one of the greatest to ever play. Not disagreeing with that statement, but I think it's pretty hypocritical when people rag on Tony for his INTs while Brett did it his entire career.

I've said this before, I think Tony Romo has matured a lot since his Cabo vacation during the playoffs. If anything, he's underrated.
I get what you're saying.. But Brett was unbelievable when he played well, made huge throws. Romo is just good.

I guess I'm trying to say, Favre made up for alot of his mistakes. Romo doesn't necessarily make up for his mistakes all the time and they lose games.