The NFL 2nd round signing conundrum;Ferguson still not signed

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Not collusion, just an oversight when they collectively bargained the new rookie pay scale
 

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It's just for drama; clicks and hit dirty laundry now. I'm not a pawn or a rook, players deserve to get paid. As a fan I've never seen this or any 2ND ROUND debacle ever, so is the current CBA even relevant?

Funny memory. I remember hanging out with my best friend in like 1998 August or so, breaking news on ESPN live Cardinals 3rd overall pick ends holdout. We both cheered yet I'll never know why... As he was a Broncos as I as I am I always a Rams fan.
 
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Ramhusker said:
Too much bullshit with rookies these days. You are in the first year of a new job, haven't done a thing in the league yet and don't know squat. Get your college ass out there and take some lumps, do something, then say pay me!
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Ferguson probably isnt involved. This is the agent doing, likely with guidance from the players association.
Splitting hairs over money being guaranteed in 4 years is preventing him from getting his 2-3 mill signing bonus, Im sure Ferguson wants that sooner than later
 
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Ferguson probably isnt involved. This is the agent doing, likely with guidance from the players association.
Splitting hairs over money being guaranteed in 4 years is preventing him from getting his 2-3 mill signing bonus, Im sure Ferguson wants that sooner than later
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Earlier in the thread, somebody mentioned collusion on the owner's part. Agents working in concert with the NFLPA is basically the same thing!

I never got the structure, belong to a union, yet have an individual contract. CEO's/Execs don't have that. Neither does the working class.
 
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PARAM said:
Earlier in the thread, somebody mentioned collusion on the owner's part. Agents working in concert with the NFLPA is basically the same thing!

I never got the structure, belong to a union, yet have an individual contract. CEO's/Execs don't have that. Neither does the working class.
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The contract is already decided, it really does seem like a union.
Its a dangerous trend though. Fully Guaranteed contracts would kill the NFL
It's all about precedents, next guy up wants a little bit more
I just find the whole thing bizarre splitting hairs over whether an additional 50k-100k is guaranteed in 4 years
 
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The contract is already decided, it really does seem like a union.
Its a dangerous trend though. Fully Guaranteed contracts would kill the NFL
It's all about precedents, next guy up wants a little bit more
I just find the whole thing bizarre splitting hairs over whether an additional 50k-100k is guaranteed in 4 years
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I can see fully guaranteeing first round draft picks. The player obviously did enough to earn that. The team obviously thought enough of the guy to take him in the first round. But 2nd round picks? You weren't good enough to make the first round so why should you get the contract guaranteed? Many guys fall because of past injuries.

You are correct....what a slippery slope.
 
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PARAM said:
Rams reporting to Loyola Marymount on July 22nd

5 days. Do you want to be a part of this or not Mr. Ferguson?
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Contract being unsigned doesn't necessarily prevent him from being a part of camp.
 
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PARAM said:
Earlier in the thread, somebody mentioned collusion on the owner's part. Agents working in concert with the NFLPA is basically the same thing!

I never got the structure, belong to a union, yet have an individual contract. CEO's/Execs don't have that. Neither does the working class.
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Report broken by the Athletic, Howell, director of the NFLPA has resigned. Apparently has nothing to do with 2nd round draft picks and guaranteed money but it seems like a sticky situation none the less. Something about association with an outside group, the NFL later hired or something like that.

Just got it in an alert but it's behind a paywall, so it's unreadable if I share. Anybody else with an Athletic subscription understand the issue?

"The move follows several weeks of criticism aimed at the NFLPA, including concerns about a potential conflict of interest involving Howell and reporting that the NFLPA agreed to a confidentiality agreement with the NFL to hide information about an arbitration decision."

WTF is that?
 
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Merlin said:
By God he'd better. Or else.
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Your still crying - lol

I guess you’re mad he didn’t miss anytime during OTA’s & mini camp.
Always nice to talk a big game.

The Rams are notorious for waiting for the right time & keeping things on the down low.
 
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PARAM said:
Report broken by the Athletic, Howell, director of the NFLPA has resigned. Apparently has nothing to do with 2nd round draft picks and guaranteed money but it seems like a sticky situation none the less. Something about association with an outside group, the NFL later hired or something like that.

Just got it in an alert but it's behind a paywall, so it's unreadable if I share. Anybody else with an Athletic subscription understand the issue?

"The move follows several weeks of criticism aimed at the NFLPA, including concerns about a potential conflict of interest involving Howell and reporting that the NFLPA agreed to a confidentiality agreement with the NFL to hide information about an arbitration decision."

WTF is that?
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Looks like a case of corporate cancel culture, nothing major
 
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Looks like a case of corporate cancel culture, nothing major
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"2. Howell has come under scrutiny since ESPN reported he has maintained a part-time consulting job with the Carlyle Group, a private equity firm that holds league approval to seek minority ownership in NFL franchises.

1. That followed the revelation that the NFLPA and the league had a confidentiality agreement to keep quiet an arbitrator's ruling about possible collusion by owners over quarterback salaries.

3. The latest issue was an ESPN report Thursday that revealed two player representatives who voted for Howell were not aware that he was sued in 2011 for sexual discrimination and retaliation while he was a senior executive at Booz Allen."



..........So #3 got him forced out but #1 didn't?
The players reps forced him out over sexual discrimination and retaliation from 14 years ago, not the NFL for colluding with agents over 2nd round guaranteed money?
 
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