The NFL 2nd round signing conundrum;Ferguson still not signed

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Not collusion, just an oversight when they collectively bargained the new rookie pay scale
 

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It's just for drama; clicks and hit dirty laundry now. I'm not a pawn or a rook, players deserve to get paid. As a fan I've never seen this or any 2ND ROUND debacle ever, so is the current CBA even relevant?

Funny memory. I remember hanging out with my best friend in like 1998 August or so, breaking news on ESPN live Cardinals 3rd overall pick ends holdout. We both cheered yet I'll never know why... As he was a Broncos as I as I am I always a Rams fan.
 

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Too much bullshit with rookies these days. You are in the first year of a new job, haven't done a thing in the league yet and don't know squat. Get your college ass out there and take some lumps, do something, then say pay me!
Ferguson probably isnt involved. This is the agent doing, likely with guidance from the players association.
Splitting hairs over money being guaranteed in 4 years is preventing him from getting his 2-3 mill signing bonus, Im sure Ferguson wants that sooner than later
 

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Ferguson probably isnt involved. This is the agent doing, likely with guidance from the players association.
Splitting hairs over money being guaranteed in 4 years is preventing him from getting his 2-3 mill signing bonus, Im sure Ferguson wants that sooner than later
Earlier in the thread, somebody mentioned collusion on the owner's part. Agents working in concert with the NFLPA is basically the same thing!

I never got the structure, belong to a union, yet have an individual contract. CEO's/Execs don't have that. Neither does the working class.
 

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Earlier in the thread, somebody mentioned collusion on the owner's part. Agents working in concert with the NFLPA is basically the same thing!

I never got the structure, belong to a union, yet have an individual contract. CEO's/Execs don't have that. Neither does the working class.
The contract is already decided, it really does seem like a union.
Its a dangerous trend though. Fully Guaranteed contracts would kill the NFL
It's all about precedents, next guy up wants a little bit more
I just find the whole thing bizarre splitting hairs over whether an additional 50k-100k is guaranteed in 4 years
 

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Rams reporting to Loyola Marymount on July 22nd

5 days. Do you want to be a part of this or not Mr. Ferguson?
 

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The contract is already decided, it really does seem like a union.
Its a dangerous trend though. Fully Guaranteed contracts would kill the NFL
It's all about precedents, next guy up wants a little bit more
I just find the whole thing bizarre splitting hairs over whether an additional 50k-100k is guaranteed in 4 years
I can see fully guaranteeing first round draft picks. The player obviously did enough to earn that. The team obviously thought enough of the guy to take him in the first round. But 2nd round picks? You weren't good enough to make the first round so why should you get the contract guaranteed? Many guys fall because of past injuries.

You are correct....what a slippery slope.
 

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Rams reporting to Loyola Marymount on July 22nd

5 days. Do you want to be a part of this or not Mr. Ferguson?
Contract being unsigned doesn't necessarily prevent him from being a part of camp.
 

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Contract being unsigned doesn't necessarily prevent him from being a part of camp.
True. But in today's climate of big business sports, what kid in his right mind is going to risk injury before he's signed a contract?