The 2024 Plan

[El Chapo Jr]

To me, it looks like the Rams are setting up for 2024. Cutting and trading high-cap defensive players is the catalyst for the future. This 2023 draft class will be very important for 2024 and beyond. Improving the offensive line would be a big step toward improving the Rams record. Maybe they can find cap space to sign a free agent for the offensive line. If not putting some draft capital to work on the offensive line could help the offense get back to top 10.

I'll call 2023 a transition year. I don't see McVay letting the team give up. They could surprise us with some young talent stepping up.

At this rate, it'll be called a transition year where we will tank. Sorry, we do not have the talent to make up for all the losses we have had if we continue to not add anyone of value. It is extremely rare for a team (doubt it's ever happened) to get my much better by relying solely on the draft to propel themselves into even just a playoff team. As much as I admire those that are being optimistic, we are in for a rough ride. The hope is that we find cheap young talent to add to our eventual spending spree in 24.

 

[TexasRam]

Speaking of tanking.

Can a person be frozen for a year to pause their aging process?

Asking for a DT friend.

 

[PARAM]

If we only use the draft to replace the guys we lost, we aren't making the playoffs unless they absolutely nail the draft, which is highly unlikely. It's going to be a tough season if we go that route.

Well we'll have to wait and see what happens in the next 5 weeks. Do we sign any free agents? How do you know we won't "nail the draft"?

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Well we'll have to wait and see what happens in the next 5 weeks. Do we sign any free agents? How do you know we won't "nail the draft"?

Agree on the signings as wait and see but solely relying on the draft to propel us to even a playoff team is borderline delusional. I'd challenge anyone to find an example of that happening when the team has no 1st round picks. Also, when have we totally nailed the draft?

 

[RAMSinLA]

Rams love team captains so look for those guys in the later rounds.

 

[So Ram]

At this rate, it'll be called a transition year where we will tank. Sorry, we do not have the talent to make up for all the losses we have had if we continue to not add anyone of value. It is extremely rare for a team (doubt it's ever happened) to get my much better by relying solely on the draft to propel themselves into even just a playoff team. As much as I admire those that are being optimistic, we are in for a rough ride. The hope is that we find cheap young talent to add to our eventual spending spree in 24.

Won’t agree,but I talked to a niner fan today who just doesn’t ever look at the bright side of some of there players.
If we’re talking about The Ram the way you are the give them The Trophy already.I enjoy thinking The Rams can find away to compete.

 

[Malibu]

Being 100 million under the cap would allow the Rams to address whatever weaknesses they have on the team through free agency and the draft. Not saying they need need super stars at those positions, just solid players along with the super stars they already have. It also allows them to construct both the defense and the offense according to the way they want to run the team.

Also they needs to be good FAs available in 2024, this year there were a good amount. Most years there are only a couple standouts and that's it the rest retreads.

 

[PARAM]

Agree on the signings as wait and see but solely relying on the draft to propel us to even a playoff team is borderline delusional. I'd challenge anyone to find an example of that happening when the team has no 1st round picks. Also, when have we totally nailed the draft?

Of course nobody "relies solely on the draft". Is Shelton our only free agent signing this off season?

When did we "nail the draft"? 2017. The last time we "remodeled".
#44 Everett, #69 Kupp, #91 Johnson, #117 Reynolds and #125 Ebukam

Do we have to hit on all 11? I don't anticipate that. But how about if we hit on the first 3? Then maybe Snead works his lower round magic and we get another surprise?

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Of course nobody "relies solely on the draft". Is Shelton our only free agent signing this off season?

When did we "nail the draft"? 2017. The last time we "remodeled".
Everett, Kupp, Johnson, Reynold and Ebukam

Reynold? Lmao, no, Everett was just ok so no there too. Ebukam wasn't even resigned and seems to have had better years after leaving us. Were they ok contributors, yeah but definitely not people that moved the needle like crazy which is why they weren't re-signed. Kupp we obviously nailed. Sorry we'll need way more than that to even make the playoffs. I got a good laugh reading that though.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Won’t agree,but I talked to a niner fan today who just doesn’t ever look at the bright side of some of there players.
If we’re talking about The Ram the way you are the give them The Trophy already.I enjoy thinking The Rams can find away to compete.

They'll compete, they just won't win a lot with this current bunch.

 

[PARAM]

Reynold? Lmao, no, Everett was just ok so no there too. Ebukam wasn't even resigned and seems to have had better years after leaving us. Were they ok contributors, yeah but definitely not people that moved the needle like crazy which is why they weren't re-signed. Kupp we obviously nailed. Sorry we'll need way more than that to even make the playoffs. I got a good laugh reading that though.

Reynolds was a good receiver. Everett was a good TE. Ebukam was a good OLB. WTF man? Are you saying Reynolds, Everett and Ebukam didn't help us win games?

4 yrs with Rams:
Everett 127 rec, 1389 yds, 8 TD as the #2 TE
Reynolds 113 rec, 1450 yds, 9 TD as the #3 or #4 WR
Ebukam 14 sacks, 150 tackles, 5 FF, 4 FR, 2 TD as a rotational OLB.

You really need to lower your expectations. Ah, I get it. When you say "hit on the draft" , you want Pro Bowlers in every round. So since you minimize the impact of that draft, your expectations are totally unreasonable. Because the definition of "hitting" isn't getting pro bowlers in every round.

Unreal. You probably also expect 12-5 every year and the CCG. Here's a little tidbit. 47 of Snead's drafted players (53) with McVay were still in the NFL in 2022. Sure not all stars but even other teams thought they were legit NFL players.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Reynolds was a good receiver. Everett was a good TE. Ebukam was a good OLB. WTF man? Are you saying Reynolds, Everett and Ebukam didn't help us win games?

Ah, I get it. When you say "hit on the draft" , you want Pro Bowlers in every round.

So since you minimize the impact of that draft, it's possible you're over emphasizing the need in this draft. Because the definition of "hitting" isn't getting pro bowlers in every round.

Unreal. You probably also expect 12-5 every year and the CCG.

No, we are talking about replacing starters with 1st year players. Rookies take TIME to develop into solid contributors. Are you telling me all these players came in year one and set the world on fire? That's why I'm laughing cuz that's what we'll need to be competitive with all the losses we've had. Of course they helped us win games, but their 1st year impacts were minimal. Also if they were all such great players, why oh why didn't we re-sign all of them? Guess we just have different definitions of "nailing" the draft. I don't expect 12-5 every year so please refrain from putting bullshit in my mouth to better your argument.

 

[thirteen28]

Unreal. You probably also expect 12-5 every year and the CCG.

Best I can do is 7-9:

 

[PARAM]

No, we are talking about replacing starters with 1st year players. Rookies take TIME to develop into solid contributors. Are you telling me all these players came in year one and set the world on fire? That's why I'm laughing cuz that's what we'll need to be competitive with all the losses we've had. Of course they helped us win games, but their 1st year impacts were minimal. Also if they were all such great players, why oh why didn't we re-sign all of them? Guess we just have different definitions of "nailing" the draft. I don't expect 12-5 every year so please refrain from putting bullshit in my mouth to better your argument.

All the losses? A damn good CB, an OLB that was ridiculed all season for not getting sacks, an aged MLB and a decent Safety. My god man, how long have you been watching the NFL? You don't keep everybody year to year! Our biggest most costly loss is (and will be) Ramsey. We have 2 CBs drafted last year. Think they might step in and be decent? Would that help? Of course, they might not run their mouth like Ramsey and they certainly won't "replace him". But they could contribute. We have Jordan Fuller returning and two young safeties. They might contribute too. MLB? I like Jones. Don't you? Gaines and A'Shawn are also losses unless we can resign one of them (or two). And we have Bobby Brown, Ernest Brown, Larry Murchison at DT. Oh yeah, and that guy Donald. So we need to find some edge help. Wanna bet we get a good one in the draft. It's not gonna get us to the Superbowl but who expects that?

Laugh all you want. Complain all you want. Expect all you want. I'm shaking my head because it's almost like you think we're gonna play D with 6 players!!!

 

[RamDino]

So far this off-season sucks. But the Rams have a ton of cap next year that they can utilize this year. I'm not stating they should push a lot of money into next year, but if Mcsnead could pick up a young stud FA either at LT or Edge and sign them to a long term contract.. why not? Just gonna have to be patient and see how this evolves and which players might become available.

 

[oldnotdead]

All GMs miss on more of their draft picks than they hit on. That is reality. What is important is how good are their hits. Two years after becoming the Rams GM he took Aaron Donald who IMO is the true GOAT. How many GMs can say that? He hired McVay. The Rams since 2017 are 60-38. Two Super Bowl appearances with one win. That is exactly what he was hired to do. Win and get to and win Super Bowls. How is that being a bad GM?

All the criticism is complete BS. It's the bottom line. Snead is successful. This was his only losing season since 2017. Just because he didn't do it the "conventional way"? BS look at the how the NFL is now trying to emulate what Snead has been doing. It's all about hiring the best hired guns in the league. Building through the draft is a myth. It takes too long and your players move on before you ever get done. You need to do both, build a core championship roster and then bring in the hired guns to complete it. That is Snead's model and it works in the NFL as well as in private industry. Any good businessman can see exactly what Les Snead is doing. He's treating the NFL like a business. That is why Kroenke also understands what he's doing. Now one down season which had nothing to do with Snead and people are claiming his way doesn't work? BS Quit listening to the fucking know nothing media. Look at the results. He's simply resetting the financial bottom line. The stock market calls it an adjustment. Snead is building up his financial assets, i.e. clearing cap space because he will have his primary tool for making moves, i.e. first round picks, back in stock in 2024.

The Rams are a business and Les Snead is treating it that way. Their business is the pursuit of Lombardi trophies. Les does it by buying and selling players and draft picks. As the old saying goes "You can't argue with success".

 

[So Ram]

Reynold? Lmao, no, Everett was just ok so no there too. Ebukam wasn't even resigned and seems to have had better years after leaving us. Were they ok contributors, yeah but definitely not people that moved the needle like crazy which is why they weren't re-signed. Kupp we obviously nailed. Sorry we'll need way more than that to even make the playoffs. I got a good laugh reading that though.

We did well in 2017. One of the better drafts that I can remember.
—Still I wanted Cooks(Vikings),Kupp,Reynolds(trade back) , Kittles(sf), & whatever The rams had left.Thise were 3 players I had circled
Gurley —Cooks
Woods -Kupp
Higbee-Kittles

Nice depth & long term future

 

[fanotodd]

Kupped, I can sum up the “new” plan in 3 words:
RINSE AND REPEAT

Right before our eyes the Rams have freed up a truckload of $$ and are once again sitting on some premium picks in ‘24. There isn’t a player out there who would elevate either side of the ball to above average who the Rams couldn’t make a legit offer on for 2024.

Remember the trading of young and the accumulation of a couple picks that allowed the Rams to go out and get vmiller? Say week 10 comes around and the Rams have seen enough of a couple of guys with bigger contracts. Trade them for peanuts if need be to dump their $$ and go out and get our next vmiller—only this time have a couple of years left on the his contract or extend him ASAP.

Why not? It worked once before.

 

[So Ram]

Would have never traded for Stafford or traded up for Goff.
Build a QB through the draft or FA’.
Hate to say it but a SF fan doesn’t like Darnold. He has never been so attractive.Experience & fit. I liked Case & Foles. Mannion was never the answer.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

All the losses? A damn good CB, an OLB that was ridiculed all season for not getting sacks, an aged MLB and a decent Safety. My god man, how long have you been watching the NFL? You don't keep everybody year to year! Our biggest most costly loss is (and will be) Ramsey. We have 2 CBs drafted last year. Think they might step in and be decent? Would that help? Of course, they might not run their mouth like Ramsey and they certainly won't "replace him". But they could contribute. We have Jordan Fuller returning and two young safeties. They might contribute too. MLB? I like Jones. Don't you? Gaines and A'Shawn are also losses unless we can resign one of them (or two). And we have Bobby Brown, Ernest Brown, Larry Murchison at DT. Oh yeah, and that guy Donald. So we need to find some edge help. Wanna bet we get a good one in the draft. It's not gonna get us to the Superbowl but who expects that?

Laugh all you want. Complain all you want. Expect all you want. I'm shaking my head because it's almost like you think we're gonna play D with 6 players!!!

Who the hell mentioned anything about keeping everyone? Man you are going way off the reserve on this one. I'm simply mentioning we lost quite a few solid players so a step back in wins is what I expect, not sure why that's so damn earth shattering. Prior to us losing players, I did mention I wanted to keep as many we could but I've also accepted what has happened and moved on. I've even mentioned multiple times, I'd be cheering my ass off to win and happy if we field a winning team because I just don't see it. Its painfully obvious the Rams are not focused on winning in 23 but reloading in 24 based on how we aren't using any cap space to sign anyone. Once again, not sure why saying we won't make the playoffs with a young ass team would shock anyone. Those young players like all young NFL players have to learn how to be pros and will have many "welcome to the NFL" moments from the opposition. Sorry if being realistic about expectations rubs ya the wrong way.