nighttrain
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with our season pretty much shot, i'd be giving Davis a lot of playing time, don't wait til Stewart is gone to find out what Cody Davis can do.
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Should the Rams give Davis a shot
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That is the rub ... guys don't get better by just practicing. Seeing things at game speed and all that helps speed up the process. Not to mention ... sometimes if a guy is given a shot and he makes a good play .... the confidence goes up and sometimes carries on to the next one. As I said .. .we don't have a realistic shot at the playoffs, so now would be the time to see how they respond.
Angry Ram
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To see what he can do....
Guys, the team had opportunities to win despite his mistakes. They are close with him and IMO he's not the SOLE cause for the last 2 weeks.
If you want Austin Davis chances are you'll get Jeff Tuel than Kurt Warner. Or Rusty Smith or Keith Null etc.
Guys, the team had opportunities to win despite his mistakes. They are close with him and IMO he's not the SOLE cause for the last 2 weeks.
If you want Austin Davis chances are you'll get Jeff Tuel than Kurt Warner. Or Rusty Smith or Keith Null etc.
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Angry Ram .... I'm talking about Cody Davis at Safety .. not Austin Davis at QB lol
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No, it isn't time to play Austin Davis. The team can keep moving forward with Clemens. They may not win much but all the guys that need to get more experience on offense will be able to continue with what they've been doing. With Davis, that wouldn't be the case.
And I'm not so sure it is "known" what Clemens' ceiling is. As it stands, he's a solid #2 QB in my book. He's got plenty of years left and for me, my plan is to have Bradford under center for the Rams for another 10 years or so which means Bradford/Clemens is fine for the next few years. Surround them with a good team and then when the team is consistently good, a developmental QB can be drafted. Then he can come in and actually develop. Throwing Davis or any other greenhorn out there with receivers who aren't ready and an offense that isn't particularly good at blocking isn't going to let anyone see what the QB can do.
And I'm not so sure it is "known" what Clemens' ceiling is. As it stands, he's a solid #2 QB in my book. He's got plenty of years left and for me, my plan is to have Bradford under center for the Rams for another 10 years or so which means Bradford/Clemens is fine for the next few years. Surround them with a good team and then when the team is consistently good, a developmental QB can be drafted. Then he can come in and actually develop. Throwing Davis or any other greenhorn out there with receivers who aren't ready and an offense that isn't particularly good at blocking isn't going to let anyone see what the QB can do.
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IMO Davis needs to start at least a few games this year if for no other reason than clemens will likely be gone next year so why not see what Davis has to offer?
Best case scenario with Davis: Kurt Warner
Worst Case: turns the ball over and is the reason we lose
Best Case scenario with clemens: Manages the game, doesn't turn the ball over, gives rest of team a shot to win the game
Worst Case: turns the ball over and is the reason we lose...Idk too me, just seems like why not??
Best case scenario with Davis: Kurt Warner
Worst Case: turns the ball over and is the reason we lose
Best Case scenario with clemens: Manages the game, doesn't turn the ball over, gives rest of team a shot to win the game
Worst Case: turns the ball over and is the reason we lose...Idk too me, just seems like why not??
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I cant understand the fascination with Austin Davis. He wasnt good enough to make the team nor the practice squad. Now he's back as an emergency guy. I think theres a better chance we see Brady Quinn then Austin Davis
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My prob with him is he makes too damn much to be our long term backup. I think hes on the books for a milli this year.
id rather see what we have in Quinn for real. Our o line is solid and he just might thrive with the way we've been running the rock. Its not like Clemens is making the impossible throws out there. IMO his knowledge of the offense is his only upside for real.
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Im not sure its accurate to say Clemens is a solid number 2...there really aren't any stats or victories anywhere in his career to validate that...Guys like Kirk Cousins, Josh McCown, Nick Foles, Jason Campbell, Brian Hoyer, Terrell Pryor, Kase Keenum....These guys are or were other teams backups why should we hold ours to different standards
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Not necessarily true...He outplayed clemens this pre season they decided to go with clemens as more of a mentor/knows the offense better role
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He didnt outplay Davis. I dont know where this comes from. It was his job to lose, and he lost it. The Rams could have done exactly what they did last year, cut Clemens, and sign him after week #1. But they didnt, because he out played Davis. If they had any inkling that Davis could still be the guy, they would have at least signed him to the PS
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To me it's simple, I don't believe clemens is the long term solution at backup qb. Davis at this point is an unknown, chances are he's not the answer either but, if were paying him, why not find out if we have something before spending a draft pick to address this problem next year?
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Fisher kept Clemmons and cut Davis for a reason, IMO the only reason he was brought back was his familiarity with the offense, I doubt either will be here next year. with the fact that Clemmons was kept and Davis was cut, putting Davis in would be viewed as giving up on the season IMO and I don't think Fisher wants to teach these young players to give up.
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AHHH ya know IT OCCURS to me, that at some point Clemens cap number will make Davis more attractive so HE might be back next year,but IMO he'd need to show something we have not yet seen.
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I strongly feel we should not give Davis a shot. This team has had to go through tremendous adversity between young players having to adjust to the pro game and Sam going down. Why the heck would we ant to throw more adversity by throwing a crappy YOUNG QB in the mix? Clemons is a vet, knows the offense, and the young guys are just starting to find their stride under him. Why the heck would we jeopardize that? Forget Davis!