Rumor - Rams like McVay

[bluecoconuts]

If we get McVay and Wade Phillips I'd be pretty damn happy.

 

[LARams_1963]

I just read another wild rumor on another site (with no source) but they said they read something about getting Norv Turner onboard as the OC. Now...while unsubstantiated...wouldn't that be a crazy scenario?

 

[PaRam24]

I posted this in another thread, but here is an article about the second interview with McVay and how it's possible we could hire him as early as Thursday...http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-coach-search-20170111-story.html

 

[shaunpinney]

I've never been bothered on the age thing - I agree with @Merlin 's earlier post on all his points so there really isn't any point in me saying it again. If we can get Phillips as our DC then that would rock and I love the idea of mixing up 4-3 and 3-4 sets - it would mix things up and keep defences guessing, I also hope that our discipline would improve under these two guys.

My only questions are then,
1. Who do hire as your OC?
2. Who do you have on ST? I'd love to keep Fass...
3. Who do you bring is as your QB coach / mentor?

 

[Mackeyser]

All good questions. I dunno.

I would presume two things:

1) Bones stays
2) McVay nailing these interviews means he had great answers for staff beyond Wade Philips for DC, who's an awesome get, btw, if that happens. So whomever McVay named must have been impressive to Demoff since staff is a HUGE part of nailing these interviews.

 

[jjab360]

It's rare that you find an elite X's and O's guy who's also known to be a player's coach.

This could be a huge get for us, don't blow it Rams.

 

[dieterbrock]

Small sample to work with, but i see a lot of credit being given to McVay for the offense production this year. 3rd in yardage (2015 was 17) but scoring was 12th in ppg. (2015 was 10). But digging deeper i see McVay criticized for being pass happy yet they rushed for 200 yards more as a team and 17 rushing td this year vs only 9 last.
Again small sample so it's hard to draw any conclusions but replacing an Alfred Morris with an udfa should cause rushing to fall but in fact did the opposite.
Encouraging IMO because TGIII is going to be comeback player of the year in 2017 so I like the trend

 

[Psycho_X]

McVay as HC
Norv Turner as OC
Wade Phillips as DC

I can get behind that. That's a lot of experience to balance out the age. As long as it wouldn't be weird for any of them. It's hard to take orders from someone 30-40 years younger than you I'd imagine.

 

[Mackeyser]

McVay as HC
Norv Turner as OC
Wade Phillips as DC

I can get behind that. That's a lot of experience to balance out the age. As long as it wouldn't be weird for any of them. It's hard to take orders from someone 30-40 years younger than you I'd imagine.

The important thing to take from that is that two such accomplished former HCs would be willing to coach for such a young HC. That, all by itself, should speak volumes...

 

[SteezyEndo]

McVay as HC
Norv Turner as OC
Wade Phillips as DC

I can get behind that. That's a lot of experience to balance out the age. As long as it wouldn't be weird for any of them. It's hard to take orders from someone 30-40 years younger than you I'd imagine.

I'm pretty sure taking orders is not going to be an issue. Winning is all that will matter, and I am sure respect is amongst all these individuals. Egos won't clash.

 

[thirteen28]

I just read another wild rumor on another site (with no source) but they said they read something about getting Norv Turner onboard as the OC. Now...while unsubstantiated...wouldn't that be a crazy scenario?

Doesn't McVay run a variant of the West Coast offense? Turner is from the Coryell tree, so I would take that one with a grain of salt for now.

 

[jrry32]

Doesn't McVay run a variant of the West Coast offense? Turner is from the Coryell tree, so I would take that one with a grain of salt for now.

Yea, that makes no sense at all unless McVay isn't going to have input on the system. He came up under three prominent WCO coaches (the Gruden brothers and Shanahan).

Personally, I don't want Norv here. I don't think his offense is a good fit for Goff or our personnel.

 

[ljramsfan]

I was just thinking about the Phillips and McVay scenario. It seems like everywhere Wade has been, the teams have been winners most of the time. Wade Phillips may attract more FA to the team due to his reputation and could help learn his scheme quicker (I know this is obvious, but thought I would mention that) I just wonder who McVay wants on the offensive side and what FA would come to the Rams.

 

[thirteen28]

Yea, that makes no sense at all unless McVay isn't going to have input on the system. He came up under three prominent WCO coaches (the Gruden brothers and Shanahan).

Personally, I don't want Norv here. I don't think his offense is a good fit for Goff or our personnel.

As much as I like Norv and his offense, I agree he's not a good fit with our personnel. If we had an offensive line in which we could have confidence and smart WR's who could get deep, I might feel different.

 

[StealYoGurley]

I think Wes Phillips the current Redskins TE coach and Wade's son is the more realistic option for Offensive Coordinator. It makes sense for a young offensive coach to get an experienced staff all around him in every role, but OC. IMO Norv doesn't make a lot of sense. Makes more sense to do what Jay Gruden did in Washington by hiring a young offensive mind in McVay while handling play calling duties for a year then handing the reigns over to the young guy after year one when you have built your offensive foundation.

 

[Dodgersrf]

McVay as HC
Norv Turner as OC
Wade Phillips as DC

I can get behind that. That's a lot of experience to balance out the age. As long as it wouldn't be weird for any of them. It's hard to take orders from someone 30-40 years younger than you I'd imagine.

Those are 2 coordinators that adjust to the talent on the team.

 

[Dodgersrf]

As much as I like Norv and his offense, I agree he's not a good fit with our personnel. If we had an offensive line in which we could have confidence and smart WR's who could get deep, I might feel different.

Norv has always adjusted to his personell.
Look what he was doing in San Diego with Antonio Gates. In past offenses, TE were nothing more than a safety net. In SD, TE became a focal point.

 

[A55VA6]

I heard McVay would handle the offensive play calling if hired. Do you guys think he would be putting too much on his own plate?

 

[thirteen28]

Norv has always adjusted to his personell.
Look what he was doing in San Diego with Antonio Gates. In past offenses, TE were nothing more than a safety net. In SD, TE became a focal point.

Not necessarily true. With Dallas in the 1990's he leaned pretty heavily on Jay Novacek. In fact, in most variations of the Coryell offense (Martz being an exception) the TE is an integral part. The Chargers had Kellen Winslow, the Rams in the late 80's had Pete Holohan (gawd I miss having a TE like that), Dallas had Novacek, the Chargers later had Gates, the Redskins had various guys ... but most places you find that offense, you'll find a TE playing a rather significant role.

Nevertheless, it's no so much an adjustment to personnel thing, it's a more fundamental philosophical difference between schemes that would be the issue.

 

[Dodgersrf]

Not necessarily true. With Dallas in the 1990's he leaned pretty heavily on Jay Novacek. In fact, in most variations of the Coryell offense (Martz being an exception) the TE is an integral part. The Chargers had Kellen Winslow, the Rams in the late 80's had Pete Holohan (gawd I miss having a TE like that), Dallas had Novacek, the Chargers later had Gates, the Redskins had various guys ... but most places you find that offense, you'll find a TE playing a rather significant role.

Nevertheless, it's no so much an adjustment to personnel thing, it's a more fundamental philosophical difference between schemes that would be the issue.

Politely disagree on Dallas.
That offense ran on the big 3 of Aikmen, Irvin and Smith.
Novacheck was not a focal point of that offense. He was a fan favorite and great possession receiver for Aikmen tough.
It was also a well balanced offense. Aikmen never put up huge numbers, but they sure won a lot of games.

In SD. Gates talent was too much to ignore and Norv made him a focal point of his passing game.