Ron Jaworski: “Jeff Fisher Is An Awful Coach”
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I dunno, not all coaches can develop QB's. Look at Chip Kelly with Nick Foles? Harbaugh with Kaep? Belicheck with Cassel, Mallet, Hoyer? Seems like you would need talent first before you develop any.
I mean who did Fisher have here? Bradford, Case, Foles, Mannion, Davis, Clemens. Are we really saying that these guys would be good ass QB's if a good coach develop them?
U can't make apple pie out of chicken crap.
It just seems like a unfair statement.
I mean who did Fisher have here? Bradford, Case, Foles, Mannion, Davis, Clemens. Are we really saying that these guys would be good ass QB's if a good coach develop them?
U can't make apple pie out of chicken crap.
It just seems like a unfair statement.
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Of all the quarterbacks we've sent to Philadelphia, you were the worst Jaworski.
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So any coach could have had the POS we had when he got here win 7 games his first year? Could have won more games with the bottom of the barrel back ups that played QB for the Rams in 2014 and 15? Or could have taken this team after Foles imploded and was a missed field goal from going 8-8 last year?
Some of the best coaching jobs are done by guys who get more out of their team than they should and a winning record is not the measuring stick.
Belicheat, the big Tuna, Vince Lombardi, take your pick for the best coach ever would not have won more games with the players and injures that have happened with this team.
Some of the best coaching jobs are done by guys who get more out of their team than they should and a winning record is not the measuring stick.
Belicheat, the big Tuna, Vince Lombardi, take your pick for the best coach ever would not have won more games with the players and injures that have happened with this team.
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Jaworski is aweful, so he should know it when he sees it. Thing is he can't evaluate talent for shit. So he is wrong. The difference in the NFL between being a good coach and a bad one is having a good QB. Pete Carroll was a 500ish coach before he got Russell Wilson. Did Pete develop Wilson? No. He was good out of the gate. Few coaches can get the job done without the QB. Even when Belichick had Bledsoe, his teams were not the same. And Bledsoe was pretty good. Just not Brady good.
Asshole Face. Where would he be without Drew Brees? His defenses suck. Fisher is very good with defense and not too good with offense. One sided is the M. O. of nearly every coach in the league.
That is the wins/loss argument. Jaws doesn't know anything about the Rams I bet.
Me too. That stuff about Kaepernick made me instantly stop listening to his shtick. I used to think he was pretty good with the QB evaluations. He talked a good talk but the second that came out of his mouth, I put him right up there with Dilweed...Dilfer.
I do. There is logic in allowing him to see the team through this move. They are going to have a very difficult time dealing with everything on their plate from moving and still try to do the day to day coaching responsibilities. The difficulty wont stop after this season. Nothing will be settled. Players are going to struggle with daily routine and adjustments and that is a big deal. Athletes, especially pros entire life is about routine. Fisher has to give them as much normalcy as possible. Changing a staff through that would be foolish. Once they are settled, and all the players have homes, the camps are set, the routine set. Sure then they could look at wether Fisher should stick around. But that is at least two years from now IMO. Maybe even until they have the new facility finished even. If Fisher hits on a QB by then and starts making the playoffs Jaws will be eating his words. If not no one will care.
Jaws must be drinking again. He will call Fisher up and beg him for forgiveness and Fisher will tell him to go fuck himself and then turn it around in L.A. Jaws will once again be painfully wrong with an evaluation.
Asshole Face. Where would he be without Drew Brees? His defenses suck. Fisher is very good with defense and not too good with offense. One sided is the M. O. of nearly every coach in the league.
That is the wins/loss argument. Jaws doesn't know anything about the Rams I bet.
Me too. That stuff about Kaepernick made me instantly stop listening to his shtick. I used to think he was pretty good with the QB evaluations. He talked a good talk but the second that came out of his mouth, I put him right up there with Dilweed...Dilfer.
I do. There is logic in allowing him to see the team through this move. They are going to have a very difficult time dealing with everything on their plate from moving and still try to do the day to day coaching responsibilities. The difficulty wont stop after this season. Nothing will be settled. Players are going to struggle with daily routine and adjustments and that is a big deal. Athletes, especially pros entire life is about routine. Fisher has to give them as much normalcy as possible. Changing a staff through that would be foolish. Once they are settled, and all the players have homes, the camps are set, the routine set. Sure then they could look at wether Fisher should stick around. But that is at least two years from now IMO. Maybe even until they have the new facility finished even. If Fisher hits on a QB by then and starts making the playoffs Jaws will be eating his words. If not no one will care.
Jaws must be drinking again. He will call Fisher up and beg him for forgiveness and Fisher will tell him to go fuck himself and then turn it around in L.A. Jaws will once again be painfully wrong with an evaluation.
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He's either good enough or he's not. Keeping him for the sake of continuity is not acceptable imo.
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He's good enough. Let's get a QB better than that stiff Jaws ever was and we will be on our way.
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This is a different situation. Bad time to switch staffs. The Rams are in purgatory right now. I don't want a new staff trying to takeover through the move. Besides I think he is good enough and better than half the coaches in the league. He just doesn't have a QB.
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Which has been his problem for about a decade now. Getting hard to have confidence in his ability to find/develop one. Rams are in purgatory right now...but how much of that is because of Jeff Fisher? Look at Arizona, Seattle, and San Francisco. All had quick turnarounds because they hired the right head coach.
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Can someone explain to me (because I see it a lot) why Foles get used as an excuse for Fisher? It's like he was some 3rd string QB who he was forced into playing because he had no other option, not a QB who Fisher traded the equivalent of a second round pick for (assuming the Browns offering their first rumour was true) and then wanted to lock up long term.
Yes he sucked as a QB, but he was the guy Fisher wanted to be our QB long term.
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Maybe two of the three have good qbs and pretty good defenses, those coaches got good inherited really talented teams compared to the crap or shall I say worse than crap team that Fisher got.
He had to gut the whole team. I didn't see any of the three teams with the quick turnarounds doing that. All they had to do is add a couple of pieces.
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Well, he picked up some Foles gold. You can say the same for Rg3 right? He looked good his rookie year and I'm sure alot of teams would've killed to have him after that season, but he turned out to be a piece of turd anyways.
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Nobody cares about the team Fisher inherited. This isn't Fisher's second year. I gave Fisher a pass for his first 3 years for that reason. But eventually, that excuse gets old.
When Arians took over the Cardinals, they were coming off a year where John Skelton, Kevin Kolb, and Ryan Lindley started games. When Carroll took over the Seahawks, they were starting Matt Hasselbeck.
The Cardinals acquired Carson Palmer after Arians was hired. The Seahawks acquired Russell Wilson after Carroll was hired.
Our team is very talented right now. Talented enough to make the playoffs if our HC could find a serviceable QB. He's failed to do that. The Rams have no business giving him an extension when he's failed to do his job.
If we brought in a good HC, we'd have a quick turnaround right now. I don't care to hear the continuity talk. I have no doubt that a quality HC could come in, replace Fisher, and have this team ready to contend.
But Fisher is getting another year. He better step up and find a damn QB. Because if he doesn't, this team has rewarded him with an extension despite him offering nothing but mediocrity. And that's not acceptable to me. I've supported this team despite not seeing a playoff appearance in the last decade. But my patience is wearing thin. The Rams either care about winning or they don't. If they don't care about winning, I'll find another team to root for.
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Oh right I think I get it, so all the good stuff that Fisher does is because Fisher's a good coach who knows exactly what he's doing, but all the bad stuff is just down to bad luck. I think I'm starting to come around.
