Resigning Peters just got more complicated

[Kevin]

As recently as March 26, Lindsay Thiry reported that Sean McVay "absolutely" wants to sign Marcus Peters to an extension. Sean McVay and the rest of the Rams leadership must have expected one or more CBs would sign big second contracts by the time they decide on Peters, so they ain't surprised.
Link included, I don't know how to cut and paste a tweet.

View: https://twitter.com/LindseyThiry/status/1110585835739627521

 

[Jorgeh0605]

When someone asks you if you "want" to sign any player currently on your team, I don't think you ever say no publicly. I say signing Peters just got a lot less complicated, don't sign him. Phase him out.

 

[Kevin]

When someone asks you if you "want" to sign any player currently on your team, I don't think you ever say no publicly. I say signing Peters just got a lot less complicated, don't sign him. Phase him out.

Well, I take people at their word. If McVay said he wants to sign him to an extension, I believe it, and Howard's contract does not change the desire. They want to and tried to resign Sammy Watkins too, even though so many fans were against it. It remains to be seen whether the Rams try to extend Peters during the season or after the season.

 

[Akrasian]

As recently as March 26, Lindsay Thiry reported that Sean McVay "absolutely" wants to sign Marcus Peters to an extension. Sean McVay and the rest of the Rams leadership must have expected one or more CBs would sign big second contracts by the time they decide on Peters, so they ain't surprised.
Link included, I don't know how to cut and paste a tweet.

View: https://twitter.com/LindseyThiry/status/1110585835739627521

The devil is in the details, of course. As Jorge pointed out, you're never going to say that you don't want him back. Would they sign him at veteran's minimum? Of course. Would they make him the highest paid CB in the league? Unlikely. So somewhere in between. Does Peters think he can be paid as a top #1 CB? Then he's gone - actually, the contract would likely need to be decently lower than that. I am skeptical with things like Goff's contract coming that the Rams will be able to find a meeting point on contract details for Peters.

 

[LesBaker]

Lindsay Thiry reported that Sean McVay "absolutely" wants to sign Marcus Peters to an extension.

If McVay said he wants to sign him to an extension, I believe it

McVay doesn't do the contracts. He, as the tweet said, wants the Rams to resign him. That's not the same as McVay resigning him.

Demoff does the contracts. Now that doesn't stop McVay from lobbying and talking to Demoff about getting a deal done, but contracts are at Demoff's discretion for the most part with some input from Snead and McVay. Demoff handles "all things contract", and he has been doing a great job at it.

The reason this troika is working so well is that each of the three has there own "territory". And while they communicate about probably most things they each have final say over their "territory".

I believe Demoff actually set it up this way to avoid pissing matches, power grabs and ego clashes.

This is important because so often a FO will implode because the lines aren't clearly enough drawn and problems develop because of that. This team has been nothing but smooth sailing because these three don't have to worry about one of the others trying to usurp their authority.

Oh and also..........another part of the smooth sailing is because they are all very good at what they do, and they seem to be aware of that and respect each other.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Yea unfortunately chalk me up as another “Peters is gone” guy. My wish would be to trade for Ramsey, even if it costs our first. Now that’s a guy you pay top money for!

I'm thinking the Rams will go DE or be rethinking another Edge OLB with our 2020 1'st Round draft choice. Re-sign Talib for a year and draft his eventual replacement with a 2'nd or 3'rd rounder. If Brockers doesn't have one of those 'most improved player' rankings for 2019, he'll be gone as a free agent imo. Rams will also need to make a more permanent decision on Fowler following the season. Other than perhaps a TE and another later round offensive lineman and WR, expect the 2020 draft to again focus on the defense. I'm guessing Blythe will also be walking during free agency following this season. jmo.

 

[Memento]

Similarly, I think Peters will get inked before the season starts - it will be around $15-$16 million per year, front loaded - and people will freak out a little bit, but the reality is, Long and NRC are bargains, so paying Peters won't kill us.

I'd rather ink Littleon and JJ3 before Peters. I honestly think that they're more important to our defense than Peters. I'm not going to deny that Peters was good down the stretch, but if we're paying him fifteen-million-a-year with Goff still needing to be re-signed - along with Littleton and a possible JJ3 extension - I think it's too much.

 

[BriansRams]

I don't know how to cut and paste a tweet.[/B]

LOL.
I was just thinking of when I was in high school in 1985.
What if someone asked me: "How do you cut and paste a tweet?"

I'd be like what the heck are you saying.

 

[Merlin]

Gotta disagree on this one, Merlin.

At the time I think that the Rams thought (hoped) that the Peters acquisition was of the same caliber as Cooks, Woods, Whitworth, and Talib. Top drawer talent for a bargain basement price and could be for another 5 years beyond his current first contract.

I also think that they were disappointed but they protected themselves by assuming an easy out first contract, just in case. Very smart, huh?

Now Peters finds himself in a one year prove it situation. We can safely assume that we will get 100% of Peters’ best effort this year. Then let the chips fall where they may.

Here's my reasoning in no particular order...

- He is not a fit for We Not Me.
- He has worn out his welcome at every stop in his career.
- He is going to test FA at a position that is already highly coveted but which will see even more money going to it due to rules changes and continued favoritism of offense.
- He struggled when he had to step up due to Talib getting hurt and Talib often gets dinged up.
- Rams have big contracts to players pending who are fits for We Not Me.
- Rams are smart and anticipate him having a strong final season with us due to contract season, so that is not going influence them. In fact it will increase the odds they let a dumb team pay him and collect compensation.

 

[Merlin]

I'd rather ink Littleon and JJ3 before Peters. I honestly think that they're more important to our defense than Peters. I'm not going to deny that Peters was good down the stretch, but if we're paying him fifteen-million-a-year with Goff still needing to be re-signed - along with Littleton and a possible JJ3 extension - I think it's too much.

Fisher would have had Demoff trying to sign Peters but IMO the Rams are smarter than that now.

It's possible they get something done like a short extension IF Peters settles for an affordable club deal but nothing in his history suggests he'd do that. Peters is all about Peters he will hit the market 100%.

 

[Akrasian]

- He struggled when he had to step up due to Talib getting hurt and Talib often gets dinged up.

I agree with your other points, and unless he takes a very favorable contract he walks, but he was dinged up himself, likely until he had an actual week off after which he played excellent.

I don't think he is the CB that the Rams want, certainly not at the max sort of contract he is likely to get if he plays well.

 

[Merlin]

I agree with your other points, and unless he takes a very favorable contract he walks, but he was dinged up himself, likely until he had an actual week off after which he played excellent.

I don't think he is the CB that the Rams want, certainly not at the max sort of contract he is likely to get if he plays well.

He denied that he was dinged up when asked about it so not sure that is true. Personally I think he didn't know wtf he was doing in the scheme and when Talib went down he was lost.

But we'll never know of course. And either way I'll be very surprised if they sign him in spite of what McVay's sellin to the media.

 

[Akrasian]

He denied that he was dinged up when asked about it so not sure that is true. Personally I think he didn't know wtf he was doing in the scheme and when Talib went down he was lost.

But we'll never know of course. And either way I'll be very surprised if they sign him in spite of what McVay's sellin to the media.

we don't know for sure, of course. He played better before when we know he was injured, and wasn't very good again until he had a week off. It's possible that being the #1 CB was beyond his talents. It's probably a mixture of that - he's not a great CB, AND he wasn't 100%. At least early in the Talib injury period, I think it is highly likely Peters wasn't 100%. The fact he played much better once he had a week off is suggestive, though the Rams did make some changes thanks to Talib coming back. In any case, if a team wants to pay him enough to get the Rams a third - great. If not, the Rams need to decide how much he's worth to them.

 

[Wisconsinram]

I think it really comes down to how Peters plays this season.

If he continues at the level we saw late in the season, which we all hope for, his value will be so high that he is surely going to price himself out of our range (given the other extensions needed that posters have identified). So we "win" this year, but will likely lose him. That Howard contract is a pretty high bar.

If he doesn't perform as we all hope, we may be able to afford him, but will we want to?

I'm hoping he plays lights-out, helps us to SB ring, and we lose him as a result.

 

[den-the-coach]

LOL.
I was just thinking of when I was in high school in 1985.
What if someone asked me: "How do you cut and paste a tweet?"

I'd be like what the heck are you saying.

Back then, you cut out a picture of a bird and paste it on paper...Easy!

 

[wolfdogg]

There are many unknown factors that will help decide whether or not peters will be here in in 2020.

For starters, does he pick up where he left off as a top 10 corner?

Can the rams draft a corner next year who can start as a rookie or can talib still play at a high level and reasonable paycheck allowing for said corner to develop?

I think long will be starting in 2020 so either peters or talib wont be. Whoever's playing better by the bye is who I'd like to see the rams keep for 2020. If its talib, then draft his successor next april and let him bring the rookie and long along. If its peters, offer him a deal and be happy that we have our starting duo for the next 4 years.

And, as we've seen, trading for a top talent is also a very good possibility.

Fortunately we're getting JJ, peters, weddle, and talib for much less than they're worth, (peters and talib are 8 and 9 mil each and salary ranked at 21 and 26 respectively). Our starting 5 secondary totals about 30 mil this season so were in good shape there and with Rapp and long on deck I see the stability in talent and price for a good 4 years.

 

[FrantikRam]

I'd rather ink Littleon and JJ3 before Peters. I honestly think that they're more important to our defense than Peters. I'm not going to deny that Peters was good down the stretch, but if we're paying him fifteen-million-a-year with Goff still needing to be re-signed - along with Littleton and a possible JJ3 extension - I think it's too much.

That's how I feel about Cooks.

Difference is, we have other near-elite options at WR (Kupp and Woods), with none at CB.

I agree that Littleton and JJ will be re-signed, but I think we can afford both of them, Kupp and Peters (along with Goff) - but at that point we wouldn't be able to afford much else.

 

[OntarioRam]

Peters played very well down the stretch and in the playoffs. Whether his early struggles were because he was missing Talib, injured, not being utilized correctly... who knows. Regardless, I don't think anyone wants to commit long-term after such a luke warm season. Rams management included. If he plays very well this season, we might have a tough decision to make, but he seems like a "me first" player that will not give his all after he is paid, and most certainly would demand every cent he could at contract negotiations - which of course, is his right. I don't think he is here long term, anyway. Count me among the majority view on this one.

 

[Merlin]

I think a tag is the longest he'll be kept around yes. But even that is unlikely since IF he has a great season they can let him go for really nice draft compensation.

Also of course next year's CB draft class will factor in to the decision. Talib hits FA as well, but I see him as the guy they'll keep around and they'll load another CB or two via next year's draft. If the class sucks (haven't really looked) then yes maybe a tag could happen but I doubt it.

People are overlooking his clear trend of wearing out his welcome. That and the Rams' clear preference for intelligent players who love the game and are dedicated to continued improvement paint a picture that tells the story to myself at least so we'll see how this goes.