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You're right. I also said or she was oblivious to the obvious culture in that sales dept.

Or maybe the culture changed and Demoff as he rose didn’t backfill enough management to properly supervise.

I think a lot of assumptions are being made.

Maybe it’s because I only worked in tech and the only place that frat boy bullshit shows up was soliciting government contracts like when I consulted for Computer Sciences Corp, a huge federal IT contractor. They did all sorts of henky and illegal shit and I overheard the executives at our office talking about taking a procurement guy to Vegas. But other than that, and maybe it’s changed, but the job hinged on the deliverables, so great maybe a salesman gets a guy sloshed or laid and he buys the thing. Doesn’t do him much good if it doesn’t work and he’s out of a job.

The only thing routinely bought in IT that was dogshit and you couldn’t get fired for buying was Microsoft…and Microsoft barely returned the calls of Fortune 100 clients, ffs, let alone wined and dined anyone.

So, maybe it’s far more prevalent in sports entertainment, but it’s 2026, man… 1956 was seventy fucking years ago and Madmen was fiction.

This is just a generic statement that shouldn’t be controversial; Just treat everyone with respect and be professional. It’s really not that hard to not be a drunken idiot and no, just because stupid shit used to go on, doesn’t make it right or become an argument for continuing. We’re allowed to aspire to our greater angels, learn from our mistakes and like McVay says, just try to be a little better each day,
 
Is everyone in this thread just taking this at face value? It could be that her claims are true, and it could be that this is sour grapes after being fired.
Precisely. Good thing is this will go to court, instead of being handled by the NFL's cronies, so the truth should come out in the wash.
 
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Rams season ticket salesmen apparently:

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Is everyone in this thread just taking this at face value? It could be that her claims are true, and it could be that this is sour grapes after being fired.
I’m not.

That said when a top performer is fired right after whistleblowing, deductive reasoning points us pretty clearly in a particular direction. And of course, all the tropes about women in the workplace come out and we have to do that dance. It’s unfortunate.

I test my assumptions by removing context and looking at actions. X was a top performer. Y, the supervisor, was alleged to be belligerently drunk on the job and harassing subordinates in a complaint. X is fired without cause.

Now, context matters, of course, but the skeletal structure of this situation looks bad for the Rams.

And it doesn’t matter who or what X is or who or what Y is.
 
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It should also be noted that Florio is a douche canoe that never misses an opp to stir shit up about the Rams.... I can't stand him.

And yes, I know he didn't make this up out of thin air, I just hate the twat.
 
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Or maybe the culture changed and Demoff as he rose didn’t backfill enough management to properly supervise.

I think a lot of assumptions are being made.

Maybe it’s because I only worked in tech and the only place that frat boy bullshit shows up was soliciting government contracts like when I consulted for Computer Sciences Corp, a huge federal IT contractor. They did all sorts of henky and illegal shit and I overheard the executives at our office talking about taking a procurement guy to Vegas. But other than that, and maybe it’s changed, but the job hinged on the deliverables, so great maybe a salesman gets a guy sloshed or laid and he buys the thing. Doesn’t do him much good if it doesn’t work and he’s out of a job.

The only thing routinely bought in IT that was dogshit and you couldn’t get fired for buying was Microsoft…and Microsoft barely returned the calls of Fortune 100 clients, ffs, let alone wined and dined anyone.

So, maybe it’s far more prevalent in sports entertainment, but it’s 2026, man… 1956 was seventy fucking years ago and Madmen was fiction.

This is just a generic statement that shouldn’t be controversial; Just treat everyone with respect and be professional. It’s really not that hard to not be a drunken idiot and no, just because stupid shit used to go on, doesn’t make it right or become an argument for continuing. We’re allowed to aspire to our greater angels, learn from our mistakes and like McVay says, just try to be a little better each day,


It could also be that she's embellishing. I know that's not okay to suggest anymore these days, but there are two major points that immediately make this be a 50/50 deal to me:

She got fired
Its California

For the first point, this is obvious. Anyone who gets fired is going to be angry. And then it being in California, the legal system there is so fucked up that even if someone had a flimsy case, its worth them going after it.

There is easily a world where these drinks she's talking about are happening toward the end of the day, say 3pm-ish, and that its an ingrained part of that culture. The company I work for, prior to going remote, used to drink every Friday afternoon. The one I worked for before this had a branch in a trendy part of town and had beer on tap.

There's also a world where the verbally berating she's talking about are comments that are part of that culture. My current CEO makes 420 and 69 jokes.

You can likely find something to sue a company for if you look hard enough. I'm not saying that invalidates her claims, but to me it does mean this has to play out in court before passing judgement one way or another.

And its possible nobody is getting sloppy drunk at all.

O the flip side, its possible that everyone got sloppy drunk, including her, and that everyone made comments about religion, including her, and she was so angry that she was let go that she decided to pursue this.

There are a ton of possibilities in all this.
 
It should also be noted that Florio is a douche canoe that never misses an opp to stir shit up about the Rams.... I can't stand him.

And yes, I know he didn't make this up out of thin air, I just hate the twat.
Whether it was a freudian slip or not, he referred to the RAMS as the lambs on one of his recent podcasts, immediately 'correcting' himself.
He is just butt hurt because of the ASS WHOOPING the GSOT routinely laid on his Minute Scrotum BiQueens.
 
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It could also be that she's embellishing. I know that's not okay to suggest anymore these days, but there are two major points that immediately make this be a 50/50 deal to me:

She got fired
Its California

For the first point, this is obvious. Anyone who gets fired is going to be angry. And then it being in California, the legal system there is so fucked up that even if someone had a flimsy case, its worth them going after it.

There is easily a world where these drinks she's talking about are happening toward the end of the day, say 3pm-ish, and that its an ingrained part of that culture. The company I work for, prior to going remote, used to drink every Friday afternoon. The one I worked for before this had a branch in a trendy part of town and had beer on tap.

There's also a world where the verbally berating she's talking about are comments that are part of that culture. My current CEO makes 420 and 69 jokes.

You can likely find something to sue a company for if you look hard enough. I'm not saying that invalidates her claims, but to me it does mean this has to play out in court before passing judgement one way or another.

And its possible nobody is getting sloppy drunk at all.

O the flip side, its possible that everyone got sloppy drunk, including her, and that everyone made comments about religion, including her, and she was so angry that she was let go that she decided to pursue this.

There are a ton of possibilities in all this.

She made the complaint before she was terminated. Therefore pretty sure the happenings were going on.
The question is this a retaliatory firing, and if so, it's very illegal.
 
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She made the complaint before she was terminated. Therefore pretty sure the happenings were going on.
The question is this a retaliatory firing, and if so, it's very illegal.

Whoops. Even so, there's a chance they were unhappy with her performance and she saw that coming. Though that does make it more likely she's being the honest one in all this
 
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Whoops. Even so, there's a chance they were unhappy with her performance and she saw that coming. Though that does make it more likely she's being the honest one in all this
Her experience looks stellar.

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It could also be that she's embellishing. I know that's not okay to suggest anymore these days, but there are two major points that immediately make this be a 50/50 deal to me:

She got fired
Its California

For the first point, this is obvious. Anyone who gets fired is going to be angry. And then it being in California, the legal system there is so fucked up that even if someone had a flimsy case, its worth them going after it.

There is easily a world where these drinks she's talking about are happening toward the end of the day, say 3pm-ish, and that its an ingrained part of that culture. The company I work for, prior to going remote, used to drink every Friday afternoon. The one I worked for before this had a branch in a trendy part of town and had beer on tap.

There's also a world where the verbally berating she's talking about are comments that are part of that culture. My current CEO makes 420 and 69 jokes.

You can likely find something to sue a company for if you look hard enough. I'm not saying that invalidates her claims, but to me it does mean this has to play out in court before passing judgement one way or another.

And its possible nobody is getting sloppy drunk at all.

O the flip side, its possible that everyone got sloppy drunk, including her, and that everyone made comments about religion, including her, and she was so angry that she was let go that she decided to pursue this.

There are a ton of possibilities in all this.

Sure, lots of possibilities. All the jobs I had except being in the Navy and working at Blockbuster as my first job out of the Navy were in CA. So I don’t have a lot of other places to consider, but even in CA, the laws favor the employers just not as much as places like Mississippi or Florida, where all my kids had jobs as they became young adults.

She got fired. Well yeah. She blew the whistle on what she says was a hostile work environment. She says.

Now I’m not gonna go further than that on “she says” other than it’s a Rorschach test on how the respondent views women. As an autistic, it’s an inkblot. She says begins and ends with that. We’ve seen from other responses that when some folks read “she says”…well, they got STRONG feelings about it no matter what “she says”.

Also, the demonization of CA is trite and boring and I say that as a born and raised Angeleno who left. Give me ANY state and with very little effort, I could give 20 legit reasons why the place is utter dogshit and no one should live there…40 for Florida.

I agree that I know nothing about permissive environs like what you describe and I would be very uncomfortable in them as I don’t drink, never thought “I’m kidding” or “I’m a little drunk” ever excused anyone of being a hurtful asshole and even as a kid in the early 70s, I never thought the behavior then was acceptable. Different people have different comfort levels.

I hope she’s telling the truth not because I want it to be true, but because there’s been a glut of false accusations and allegations by women who don’t give a shit about other women and real victims and feel entitled to no accountability and victimhood which makes the real victims unheard and ultimately revictimized.

I see where you’re coming from and hopefully you see where I am.
 
This 100% - this will never make it to court.
And that's fine if the girl was wronged and ends up compensated by the team. Also it's fine if she's a fuckin drama queen and got what she had comin. I just hope California can get past their BS and deliver a good trial.
 
Whoops. Even so, there's a chance they were unhappy with her performance and she saw that coming. Though that does make it more likely she's being the honest one in all this
It doesn't make it more likely.

We don't know.

Have seen both types of situation and we just don't have all the information.