Rams release Tre Tomlinson

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Fisher drafted Jenkins early 2nd and Trumaine Johnson in the 3rd. The McSnead team, in 8 years, has only drafted one CB as early as the 3rd round. Think the failure to use premium picks could be it?

That might be part of it, but the Fisher regime seemed to get contributors even in the later rounds at DB. Their record at other positions was mixed but they always seemed to get something out of the DBs they took, and I can only think of one I would definitely say was a bust (can't remember his name, but he was a late-rounder out of Miami). We've had a lot of Taylor Rapp/David Long types under the current regime.

Don't get me wrong, I'd take this regime over that one any day of the week, but just pointing out their one Achilles heel in the draft.
 

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Had pedigree and skills, but, limitations as well.
He was a 6th round pick, so, no risk.
Still, sucks to see it not work out.
The Rams have plenty of young players who are knuckleheads. All teams do.
Id put Young in that category as well and Verse risking flags by endlessly running his mouth......they can play however, so, its all good.
 

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That might be part of it, but the Fisher regime seemed to get contributors even in the later rounds at DB. Their record at other positions was mixed but they always seemed to get something out of the DBs they took, and I can only think of one I would definitely say was a bust (can't remember his name, but he was a late-rounder out of Miami). We've had a lot of Taylor Rapp/David Long types under the current regime.

Don't get me wrong, I'd take this regime over that one any day of the week, but just pointing out their one Achilles heel in the draft.
Part of it to was Fisher was a DB in the NFL and coached DB’s a long while.

That was his expertise and he drafted Safeties well to.
 

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That's a nice pull. I think that alone is worth a 6th round pick.

That was David long, a 3rd round pick. Still well worth it no matter what anyone says. I'll swap a 3rd round pick for a superbowl win every day of the week.

If he didn't move from his man and get in the way of the other wr that was an easy 1st down for the Bengals. Then who knows what would have happened.

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Can't say he will be sorely missed but the Rams do need to add to the CB room this off season. This is another prime example of addition by subtraction.
 

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Can't say he will be sorely missed but the Rams do need to add to the CB room this off season. This is another prime example of addition by subtraction.
He was passed up by two undrafted free agent rookies. Both looked pretty good in limited play. Josh Wallace and Charles Woods.

It would be nice for them to draft a stud CB.
 

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Sad it didn't work out. Great college player.
 

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He was supposed to be our slot guy. Who do you like in this draft? There are some solid later round prospects at that position
 

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That might be part of it, but the Fisher regime seemed to get contributors even in the later rounds at DB. Their record at other positions was mixed but they always seemed to get something out of the DBs they took, and I can only think of one I would definitely say was a bust (can't remember his name, but he was a late-rounder out of Miami). We've had a lot of Taylor Rapp/David Long types under the current regime.

Don't get me wrong, I'd take this regime over that one any day of the week, but just pointing out their one Achilles heel in the draft.
I get your sentiments as I had the same feeling. So I decided to take a deeper dive and am now changing my mind.

Here are all of the McSnead CB/DB picks since 2017.

John Johnson (3rd) - Definite hit.
Taylor Rapp (2nd) - He's every bit as much a hit as some of Fisher's guys like Alexander.
David Long (3rd) - Nope
Nick Scott (7th) - I'd say a hit as a 7th round pick.
Terrell Burgess (3rd) - Nope
Jordan Fuller (6th) - Definite hit as a starter for 4 years.
Robert Rochell (4th) - Nope
Cobie Durant (4th) - He's a contributor which is sufficient for a 4th rounder so I'm calling it a hit
Quentin Lake (6th) - A contributor every season, played every snap last year...a definite hit especially as a 6th round pick.
Derion Kendrick (6th) - Still on the team. Per Jourdan, Rams like him; fans hate him. Your call.
Russ Yeast (7th) - Nope
Tre'Vius Tomlinson (6th) - Nope
Kamren Kinchens (3rd) - Too soon to call. Looks good so far.

That's 13 picks over 8 years. Five of the 13 used a premium pick. And from my list above, I'm seeing 8 contributors out of the 13 picks.

Fisher had Joyner, Alexander, Gaines, CB Bryant, McDonald, Brandon McGee, Jenkins, and Trumaine Johnson...going backwards from 2016 - 2012. I don't see his hit rate being much better. He also used premium picks - top 100 - at a higher rate.
 

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Fisher drafted Jenkins early 2nd and Trumaine Johnson in the 3rd. The McSnead team, in 8 years, has only drafted one CB as early as the 3rd round. Think the failure to use premium picks could be it?

You don’t have to worry about using early picks to draft CBs when you’re trading for guys like Talib, Marcus Peters & Jalen Ramsey

Although it’s caught up to them now
 

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I get your sentiments as I had the same feeling. So I decided to take a deeper dive and am now changing my mind.

Here are all of the McSnead CB/DB picks since 2017.

John Johnson (3rd) - Definite hit.
Taylor Rapp (2nd) - He's every bit as much a hit as some of Fisher's guys like Alexander.
David Long (3rd) - Nope
Nick Scott (7th) - I'd say a hit as a 7th round pick.
Terrell Burgess (3rd) - Nope
Jordan Fuller (6th) - Definite hit as a starter for 4 years.
Robert Rochell (4th) - Nope
Cobie Durant (4th) - He's a contributor which is sufficient for a 4th rounder so I'm calling it a hit
Quentin Lake (6th) - A contributor every season, played every snap last year...a definite hit especially as a 6th round pick.
Derion Kendrick (6th) - Still on the team. Per Jourdan, Rams like him; fans hate him. Your call.
Russ Yeast (7th) - Nope
Tre'Vius Tomlinson (6th) - Nope
Kamren Kinchens (3rd) - Too soon to call. Looks good so far.

That's 13 picks over 8 years. Five of the 13 used a premium pick. And from my list above, I'm seeing 8 contributors out of the 13 picks.

Fisher had Joyner, Alexander, Gaines, CB Bryant, McDonald, Brandon McGee, Jenkins, and Trumaine Johnson...going backwards from 2016 - 2012. I don't see his hit rate being much better. He also used premium picks - top 100 - at a higher rate.
One thing that drove Fisher’s picks and maybe even Snead early on was athletic measurables. You find that often in corners. It could be part of why they picked the huts where they did.
 

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That might be part of it, but the Fisher regime seemed to get contributors even in the later rounds at DB. Their record at other positions was mixed but they always seemed to get something out of the DBs they took, and I can only think of one I would definitely say was a bust (can't remember his name, but he was a late-rounder out of Miami). We've had a lot of Taylor Rapp/David Long types under the current regime.

Don't get me wrong, I'd take this regime over that one any day of the week, but just pointing out their one Achilles heel in the draft.
Jeff Fisher was a DB and a special teamer as a player. It stands to reason that he understands those units very well.
 

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Not necessarily for this waiver claim, but it gives me an opportunity to say it out loud again: I really hate the Niners.
 

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Tomlison was too handsy. Both in college and the pros. I thought he would be a good asset for the Rams. He could not break the bad habit.