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Lesson

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Yeah, I'm not too happy about this.

If it was just one game, fine. But a game per season over the next three seasons, at a time when the lease issue is about to be brought up?
:boohoo:
 

superfan24

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Lesson said:
Yeah, I'm not too happy about this.

If it was just one game, fine. But a game per season over the next three seasons, at a time when the lease issue is about to be brought up?
:boohoo:

Yep my thoughts exactly. The Rams are losing home field advantage for 1 game 3 seasons in a row. More about money then about winning
 

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Lesson said:
Yeah, I'm not too happy about this.

If it was just one game, fine. But a game per season over the next three seasons, at a time when the lease issue is about to be brought up?
:boohoo:

It's a 3 year plan to excellence leading to the St. Louis Rams winning the Super Bowl in front of a St. Louis crowd.
 

Lesson

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squeaky wheel said:
Lesson said:
Yeah, I'm not too happy about this.

If it was just one game, fine. But a game per season over the next three seasons, at a time when the lease issue is about to be brought up?
:boohoo:

It's a 3 year plan to excellence leading to the St. Louis Rams winning the Super Bowl in front of a St. Louis crowd.

I would be fine with that. However, the timing of the announcement isn't the best, but per Demoff, the league made the decision today.
 

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Lesson said:
squeaky wheel said:
Lesson said:
Yeah, I'm not too happy about this.

If it was just one game, fine. But a game per season over the next three seasons, at a time when the lease issue is about to be brought up?
:boohoo:

It's a 3 year plan to excellence leading to the St. Louis Rams winning the Super Bowl in front of a St. Louis crowd.

I would be fine with that. However, the timing of the announcement isn't the best, but per Demoff, the league made the decision today.

Yeah it's sad to see so many fans getting upset tummies over this and Berno causing a stink....but this is perfectly normal. The NFL wants teams to volunteer for the game and we've known this for years. What's normal is a new owner wanting to get brownie points with the league which is what SK is doing. Contrary to popular opinion those brownie points could be used just as much in helping keep the team in St. Louis.
 

Lesson

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squeaky wheel said:
Lesson said:
squeaky wheel said:
Lesson said:
Yeah, I'm not too happy about this.

If it was just one game, fine. But a game per season over the next three seasons, at a time when the lease issue is about to be brought up?
:boohoo:

It's a 3 year plan to excellence leading to the St. Louis Rams winning the Super Bowl in front of a St. Louis crowd.

I would be fine with that. However, the timing of the announcement isn't the best, but per Demoff, the league made the decision today.

Yeah it's sad to see so many fans getting upset tummies over this and Berno causing a stink....but this is perfectly normal. The NFL wants teams to volunteer for the game and we've known this for years. What's normal is a new owner wanting to get brownie points with the league which is what SK is doing. Contrary to popular opinion those brownie points could be used just as much in helping keep the team in St. Louis.

Thing is, Kroenke isn't a new owner. New majority owner, yes, but new owner? No, not in the NFL. Many owners knew Stan before he was approved as majority owner.

Anyways, I am actually not going to make a deal about this anymore.

The comment by Demoff in his chat made me relax a little:
I am a charter PSL holder and am concerned about a move as well, but I think I understand what you are trying to do. Is what the Rams are doing analogous to what Arsenal, Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool have done in England - going from regional football teams to globally successful brands?

VP of Football Operations and Chief Operating Officer Kevin Demoff, Stlouisrams.com
Jeff, that is exactly what we are trying to do. I realize the difference is those clubs play exhibition games in far flung places and not actual games, but that is how they built the international following that sustains those clubs and has spurred their growth. We have a chance to become the next Dallas Cowboys or Pittsburgh Steelers, why wouldn't we try to do that?
 

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squeaky wheel said:
superfan24 said:
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I am very pissed about this. So much for the ROD tailgate for the NE game when we beat the Cheaters in STL. freak I was really pumped to go to this game and now won't be able to for what another 8 years. And now taking away a regular season game for 3 straight years while still making us pay for shyte preseason games is really cruddy. No season tix holder is gonna be happy that they are taking the prime game away from next season to London where noone even goes to the game. O well what are we gonna do to stop Stan and Goodell.....nothing cause it doesn't seem they care what we think. How is Stan gonna convince STL fans to continue to send their payments in for the PSL and season tix when shyte like this happens while still having to shell out $200 worthless dollars for the preseason games?

The season tix will be discounted.

I understand that, but for the game that everyone wants to go to in STL.

Not everyone. The 49ers and AZ are big games too. Seattle is close also.

They all play at the dome once a year, every year. NE every 8.
 

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Lesson said:
squeaky wheel said:
Lesson said:
squeaky wheel said:
Lesson said:
Yeah, I'm not too happy about this.

If it was just one game, fine. But a game per season over the next three seasons, at a time when the lease issue is about to be brought up?
:boohoo:

It's a 3 year plan to excellence leading to the St. Louis Rams winning the Super Bowl in front of a St. Louis crowd.

I would be fine with that. However, the timing of the announcement isn't the best, but per Demoff, the league made the decision today.

Yeah it's sad to see so many fans getting upset tummies over this and Berno causing a stink....but this is perfectly normal. The NFL wants teams to volunteer for the game and we've known this for years. What's normal is a new owner wanting to get brownie points with the league which is what SK is doing. Contrary to popular opinion those brownie points could be used just as much in helping keep the team in St. Louis.

Thing is, Kroenke isn't a new owner. New majority owner, yes, but new owner? No, not in the NFL. Many owners knew Stan before he was approved as majority owner.

Anyways, I am actually not going to make a deal about this anymore.

The comment by Demoff in his chat made me relax a little:
I am a charter PSL holder and am concerned about a move as well, but I think I understand what you are trying to do. Is what the Rams are doing analogous to what Arsenal, Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool have done in England - going from regional football teams to globally successful brands?

VP of Football Operations and Chief Operating Officer Kevin Demoff, Stlouisrams.com
Jeff, that is exactly what we are trying to do. I realize the difference is those clubs play exhibition games in far flung places and not actual games, but that is how they built the international following that sustains those clubs and has spurred their growth. We have a chance to become the next Dallas Cowboys or Pittsburgh Steelers, why wouldn't we try to do that?

Well minority owners get to hang around and participate in whatever the majority owner doesn't want to.....but minority owners really have no say unless the majority owner agrees. This is SK's opportunity to contribute as majority owner. For now I see no reason to think that is a bad thing.
 

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superfan24 said:
squeaky wheel said:
superfan24 said:
squeaky wheel said:
superfan24 said:
I am very pissed about this. So much for the ROD tailgate for the NE game when we beat the Cheaters in STL. freak I was really pumped to go to this game and now won't be able to for what another 8 years. And now taking away a regular season game for 3 straight years while still making us pay for shyte preseason games is really cruddy. No season tix holder is gonna be happy that they are taking the prime game away from next season to London where noone even goes to the game. O well what are we gonna do to stop Stan and Goodell.....nothing cause it doesn't seem they care what we think. How is Stan gonna convince STL fans to continue to send their payments in for the PSL and season tix when shyte like this happens while still having to shell out $200 worthless dollars for the preseason games?

The season tix will be discounted.

I understand that, but for the game that everyone wants to go to in STL.

Not everyone. The 49ers and AZ are big games too. Seattle is close also.

They all play at the dome once a year, every year. NE every 8.
I can understand why Kroenke volunteered for 3 years, and the value of the London stage, but I'm still not happy with the choice of opponent. I'd much rather play the Jets overseas and the Pats here.

I'll concede that if we are better and upset them, then the concerns over home field are moot, but the home fans still wouldn't be able to witness it personally.

I wonder if a fan brouhaha over the loss of a premier home game that only comes once every 8 years would make any difference? Yeah, I know, probably not, but that doesn't mean Stan shouldn't hear it.
 

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I'm torn on this. On one hand, I don't like the fact that the Patsies were scheduled for the London game. I also don't like the fact that we're going to lose one home game over the next three years.

But on the other hand, it does give fans like ScotsRam a chance to see them in person, and it's also a chance to build up a new fanbase.

I could live if it was one home game. But three? I just wish that it was a road game instead. We need all the help we can get.
 

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I think this is pretty cool. London is a cool city and it seems they're trying to find a team that Londoners can cheer for.

Doesn't really bother me.
 

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The Londoners will like the HORNS and the Blue and Gold! I bet they get most of the support over there.
 

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Man, I was really looking forward to that Patriots game.

Sad that we're losing a home game, but I can see and respect what they're trying to do. Glad the players are excited about it and accepted it well.
 

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Kevin is a smooth talker, it's not surprising that his father is a successful agent. I'm not trying to say he's a bullshitter, I'm just saying that he has put a LOT of thought into how he was going to "defend" this London Shit. No wonder he looks like he hasn't seen the sunshine in months.

If the games allow the franchise to be more profitable,,, AND,,, help in the agreement for a permanent home for the Rams... I am all for it.

Ultimately, I believe that IS what's going to happen.



The 3 year commitment will help to create a Home Field advantage if you think about it. Those Brits will gravitate to the "Home" Team,,, until now they never knew what teams were going to play there.

Plus, I read that our players will be using Stan's soccer team's facilities for game prep (visiting teams won't have this luxury) during a regularly scheduled bye week every November.


Big-Pic ,,, Long-Term.

Permanent Home in The STL
 

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I gotta tell you as a "St. Louis" Rams fan (who just happens to no longer live there), I take total offense to this. If I lived in St. Louis, I would definitely have season tickets. Given all of this, if I was a season ticket holder, I would seriously, seriously think about not re-upping for the next year...and I LOVE the Rams. LOVE them. I feel like I and the city I was born, the city my parents were born, the city my grandparents were born, the city my great-grandparents were born was just slapped in the face. I personally take this as an insult.
 

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Selassie I said:
The 3 year commitment will help to create a Home Field advantage if you think about it. Those Brits will gravitate to the "Home" Team,,, until now they never knew what teams were going to play there.
Cue the Rams to London Chants! They already have a fanbase! :sly:
 

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I gotta tell you as a "St. Louis" Rams fan (who just happens to no longer live there), I take total offense to this. If I lived in St. Louis, I would definitely have season tickets. Given all of this, if I was a season ticket holder, I would seriously, seriously think about not re-upping for the next year...and I LOVE the Rams. LOVE them. I feel like I and the city I was born, the city my parents were born, the city my grandparents were born, the city my great-grandparents were born was just slapped in the face. I personally take this as an insult.

Times are hard and this will make season tix more affordable. SK builds brownie points within the NFL. Playing in London may foster an additional esprit de corps within the team and organization too. Glass half full stuff.
 

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squeaky wheel said:
brokeu91 said:
I gotta tell you as a "St. Louis" Rams fan (who just happens to no longer live there), I take total offense to this. If I lived in St. Louis, I would definitely have season tickets. Given all of this, if I was a season ticket holder, I would seriously, seriously think about not re-upping for the next year...and I LOVE the Rams. LOVE them. I feel like I and the city I was born, the city my parents were born, the city my grandparents were born, the city my great-grandparents were born was just slapped in the face. I personally take this as an insult.

Times are hard and this will make season tix more affordable. SK builds brownie points within the NFL. Playing in London may foster an additional esprit de corps within the team and organization too. Glass half full stuff.

Discounting the price of preseason tix will make season tix more marketable.
 

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superfan24 said:
squeaky wheel said:
brokeu91 said:
I gotta tell you as a "St. Louis" Rams fan (who just happens to no longer live there), I take total offense to this. If I lived in St. Louis, I would definitely have season tickets. Given all of this, if I was a season ticket holder, I would seriously, seriously think about not re-upping for the next year...and I LOVE the Rams. LOVE them. I feel like I and the city I was born, the city my parents were born, the city my grandparents were born, the city my great-grandparents were born was just slapped in the face. I personally take this as an insult.

Times are hard and this will make season tix more affordable. SK builds brownie points within the NFL. Playing in London may foster an additional esprit de corps within the team and organization too. Glass half full stuff.

Discounting the price of preseason tix will make season tix more marketable.

Yeah it will take off 10%. But they had packages for $250 so not sure the cost is the issue. To the 6,000 missing fans per game it's more of a on field issue than cost.
The Pats would have been a sellout for sure. The Browns and no one cares.

Whats pissing ppl off that they wanted to see them beat the Pats, and with Fisher there is that possibility.

This whole NFL in London thing is where they jump the shark. Not to piss off the old country fans but this is a nightmare for the teams and fans.
 

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Yamahopper said:
superfan24 said:
squeaky wheel said:
brokeu91 said:
I gotta tell you as a "St. Louis" Rams fan (who just happens to no longer live there), I take total offense to this. If I lived in St. Louis, I would definitely have season tickets. Given all of this, if I was a season ticket holder, I would seriously, seriously think about not re-upping for the next year...and I LOVE the Rams. LOVE them. I feel like I and the city I was born, the city my parents were born, the city my grandparents were born, the city my great-grandparents were born was just slapped in the face. I personally take this as an insult.

Times are hard and this will make season tix more affordable. SK builds brownie points within the NFL. Playing in London may foster an additional esprit de corps within the team and organization too. Glass half full stuff.

Discounting the price of preseason tix will make season tix more marketable.

Yeah it will take off 10%. But they had packages for $250 so not sure the cost is the issue. To the 6,000 missing fans per game it's more of a on field issue than cost.
The Pats would have been a sellout for sure. The Browns and no one cares.

Whats pissing ppl off that they wanted to see them beat the Pats, and with Fisher there is that possibility.

This whole NFL in London thing is where they jump the shark. Not to piss off the old country fans but this is a nightmare for the teams and fans.

Exactly, completely agree about the NE game.