Rams Draft - QUANTITY OVER QUALITY?

[Corbin]

It's bad to look st McVay as a great developer of QB talent?

It's a moot point now that we drafted Bennett, but the Rams liked Willis last year and just because he didn't shine as a rookie in minimal opportunities with a franchise that hasn't developed a qb since Steve McNair doesn't mean he doesn't have the talent everyone saw before he was drifted

Some people aren’t destined for the PRO game. Guy has bad mechanics, bad decision making, slow processor, and bad accuracy.

That’s not something you work with buddy.

That’s like only getting a 69 Camaro body and trying to make it a show car. When you already have one you can acquire down the street, why do that to yourself?

 

[LA_Rams_#29]

Some people aren’t destined for the PRO game. Guy has bad mechanics, bad decision making, slow processor, and bad accuracy.

That’s not something you work with buddy.

That’s like only getting a 69 Camaro body and trying to make it a show car. When you already have one you can acquire down the street, why do that to yourself?

You are correct that not everyone is destined to succeed. My point is jumping to that conclusion after a small handful of games in your rookie year with an organization that has developed probably 2 successful QBs in their entire history (McNair and maybe Dan Pastorini).... doing that is simply presumptuous. These teams aren't spending the type of money they're spending on scouting, background checks, and analysis prior to drafts to give a guy a small handful of attempts in the pros just to give up on them. Jared Goff looked horrible as a rookie. Just awful. We don't get to chalk that up to being a rookie, then when another rookie struggles, call them a bust after 60 pro attempts as a rookie.

Put Willis with a staff and organization that has a history of successfully developing players in general ,and QBs... my money would be on him performing up to the level where teams thought he'd be prior to the draft.

It's a super low risk and high reward to put a player like that in a successful system.

 

[Ram Ts]

Bennett was the Rams target at QB not anybody else. No lunches were stolen.

Yup -- further, they said point blank that Avila was the top rated guy on their board going into Day 2. Some people just love to create and believe in drama.

 

[FarNorth]

I think Hooker is a bit of a project. I don't see full reads consistently on his film like with Bennett. Bennett is much more likely to be able to play if we need him. Hooker is really talented and I love his throws, love his arm, the guy is a fucking assassin but QBs look a lot different when they're thinking in real time. I don't think he would have been what we need, which is a year one backup. He'd be a futures pick.

I actually really like Bennett a lot as a pick for the Rams too. No doubt here that he will step up and play well if Stafford goes out.

Hooker is coming back from an ACL and has to learn a pro offense. So as you say more of a futures pick. But the Rams also need a future starter, and arguably more than a 2023 backup. Depends on how long Stafford wants to play. Might only be a couple of years.

Hooker could have been that long term qb for the Rams. And I think they might have taken him if Detroit had not moved up. After watching him totally light up Alabama I'm convinced he will be an outstanding NFL qb. His deep throws are just stunning and they don't end up in the wrong hands. Excellent field awareness, presence and execution. He will start for an NFL team at some point.

 

[Corbin]

You are correct that not everyone is destined to succeed. My point is jumping to that conclusion after a small handful of games in your rookie year with an organization that has developed probably 2 successful QBs in their entire history (McNair and maybe Dan Pastorini).... doing that is simply presumptuous. These teams aren't spending the type of money they're spending on scouting, background checks, and analysis prior to drafts to give a guy a small handful of attempts in the pros just to give up on them. Jared Goff looked horrible as a rookie. Just awful. We don't get to chalk that up to being a rookie, then when another rookie struggles, call them a bust after 60 pro attempts as a rookie.

Put Willis with a staff and organization that has a history of successfully developing players in general ,and QBs... my money would be on him performing up to the level where teams thought he'd be prior to the draft.

It's a super low risk and high reward to put a player like that in a successful system.

This is literally a BSPN analyst way of thinking of things.

So you're telling me that if you put Malik Willis right now on the Packers roster who have had elite QB play the last 30+ years he'll become a Pro Bowler?

 

[Tano]

You are correct that not everyone is destined to succeed. My point is jumping to that conclusion after a small handful of games in your rookie year with an organization that has developed probably 2 successful QBs in their entire history (McNair and maybe Dan Pastorini).... doing that is simply presumptuous. These teams aren't spending the type of money they're spending on scouting, background checks, and analysis prior to drafts to give a guy a small handful of attempts in the pros just to give up on them. Jared Goff looked horrible as a rookie. Just awful. We don't get to chalk that up to being a rookie, then when another rookie struggles, call them a bust after 60 pro attempts as a rookie.

Put Willis with a staff and organization that has a history of successfully developing players in general ,and QBs... my money would be on him performing up to the level where teams thought he'd be prior to the draft.

It's a super low risk and high reward to put a player like that in a successful system.

You missed one - probably their best QB too - Warren Moon

 

[LA_Rams_#29]

You missed one - probably their best QB too - Warren Moon

Oilers didn't develop Warren Moon. He had an entire CFL championship career prior to going there.

 

[Tano]

Oilers didn't develop Warren Moon. He had an entire CFL championship career prior to going there.

That's kinda like the LA Express developing Kurt Warner

 

[LA_Rams_#29]

That's kinda like the LA Express developing Kurt Warner

Kurt Warner never played for the la express

By developing I'm meaning drafting a guy out of college and developing him into a good Qb

 

[Allen2McVay]

Kurt Warner never played for the la express

Warner was fourteen years old the last year of the L.A. Express existence.

 

[RamFan503]

I hope the idea that it was quantity over quality is dead wrong. But with any draft, the proof is in the pudding. I generally don't get too excited either way about draft picks. They all have to prove out.

Hell.. I was extremely excited about Tavon. Still think we fucked up that pick as a team and coaching staff. How many of his long returns were negated by penalties?

 

[Lunchbox]

That's kinda like the LA Express developing Kurt Warner

You're thinking of Steve Young.

 

[rdlkgliders]

That's kinda like the LA Express developing Kurt Warner

@Lunchbox You're thinking of Steve Young.


I remember how the USFL held their draft before the NFL and Young was drafted by the LA Express and signed some crazy contract.
He then was a bust in TB before sitting behind Montana for a few years.

 

[Tano]

Warner was fourteen years old the last year of the L.A. Express existence.

Okay I was thinking of the Arena football league that he was in - I got them mixed up with the LA Express

Sue me

 

[Tano]

You're thinking of Steve Young.

Naw I got them mixed up with the Arena Football League team that I was thinking of

 

[nighttrain]

Okay I was thinking of the Arena football league that he was in - I got them mixed up with the LA Express

Sue me

Warner played college football at Northern Iowa, then the Iowa Barnstormers of the Arena League, finally due to happenstance, QB of the ST. Louis Rams
train

 

[Tano]

Kurt Warner never played for the la express

By developing I'm meaning drafting a guy out of college and developing him into a good Qb

Still I consider the CFL a bunch of college level players playing as adults

And I was thinking of the Arena football team that I got the LA Express mixed up with

 

[Allen2McVay]

Okay I was thinking of the Arena football league that he was in - I got them mixed up with the LA Express

Sue me

The papers have been filed.

Should a guy in a suit walk-up to you and ask ... "Are you the ROD poster TANO" ... say "No" and run-away.

He may be a Process Server.

If it's an attractive young woman, then enthusiastically say "Yes!" It's a risk but it may be worth it.

 

[RocknRam29]

View: https://twitter.com/JKBOGEN/status/1659249534596153371

 

[Oregonram]

Kurt Warner never played for the la express

By developing I'm meaning drafting a guy out of college and developing him into a good Qb

Steve Young may have played for the LA Express